Mfw I make a god leftwing post on Sup Forums and inbred reactionaries begin braying honestly BRAYING like mules in my...

>mfw I make a god leftwing post on Sup Forums and inbred reactionaries begin braying honestly BRAYING like mules in my (You)s

Anarchy is obviously coming no matter what we do- we must either organize ahead of time or wake up one day abandoned on the side of the road. Nations are ending and we're returning to points of light in vast ungoverned favelas, one day soon the whole world will look like Rio.

Please stop pretending reaction is smart and join the grownup world before it is too late, int.


Doesn't the world seem to be ending? Doesn't it seem that way in your cunt too?

that's not a good leftwing post doe

you didn't take into account post-structure

Jump off the left side of a bridge.

How do you mean? What is the post-structural critique here?

Never, I will live to see the powerful put in the dirt.

that anarchy is not the opposite of leftism

leftism does not mean structure outright, it will not give you meaning in a meaningless world by self

I'm not trying to imply that- I'm not a marxist. I think anarchy is a given at this point and our choice is between organized leftwing anarchISM and mere disorganized apocalyptic anarchy.

I think those two choices will never come to pass

m8 anarchy will never be successful or happen in any big sense , anarchist states always got destroyed in record times. Even niggas that lived 700 years ago like Ibn khaldun realized that there is no civilization with anarchy

My dude governments around the world but ESPECIALLY ours are cutting the majority of the population off as fast as possible. They're shrinking sovereignty back to the profitable parts of the economy as we speak. It's possible YOU personally will get to stay in the Burgh, but the plan for poor people seems pretty clear. New phone who dis, same as how shantytowns usually begin. Do you suppose some specific thing will happen instead?

No way are you suggesting the form our society takes is based on material realities? Amazing. Anarchy is the obvious base state now in a way it hasn't been in a very long time. It makes sense that the Machnoshvistas were crushed. Ibn khaldun was writing about a world with a very different shape of power.

Cell phones and internet alone are a powerful force for anarchy in the same way the invention of guns was. The road and where it leads is clear.

that's just dictation, not anarchy
poor people are ruled by consumerism and paychecks, they are not doing any overthrow anytime soon

sure they might be politically powerless but they always were

>Reddit dab

>that's just dictation, not anarchy
Organizing outside the system is inherently dictatorship? I'm not describing a vanguard, I'm describing communities organizing themselves democratically to produce the things they need. Not a party, the workers themselves day to day. You keep picturing Lenin while I describe anarchism.

The workers in the US are not a revolutionary class, that's true. 2 things though:

first, the lumpen absolutely are a revolutionary class. They aren't class conscious, but in the last few years they have demonstrated real rebellious spirit against the pigs. With an impoverished liberal ideology, sure, but they aren't complacent. They're STILL out every single night in Ferguson and St Louis.
Second I'm not convinced the state will need to be overthrown, it's not attempting to control the proles too closely at the moment. If anything it's trying to divorce them. I think we're seeing the system divest from us as our bio-power is no longer profitable enough to justify attempting to control us. Like the favelas, soon they will just focus on the bare minimum of physical control over our territories to protect themselves from us. The state is withering at the edges.

you're reddit.

no the situation you described that is happening is not anarchy

1 there is no distinction anymore the lumpen is the proletariat, the revolution is a sham
2 the state is withering is because there is not enough tax for how big it is

these problems are not some ideological battle, it's pretty mundane

It's not anarchy now, no, but it's the historical process of the state loosening its grip. It could very plausibly lead to anarchy (and possible anarchism.) Also, the lumpen are pretty easy to spot in the US, they're clearly delineated from proles overall, I don't know what you mean. Chronically unemployed black dudes who live on their mom's couch in public housing and sell weed are a serious percent of the US population in some regions, and as of like 5 years ago they are actually getting into politics in a real way.

I don't see why you care WHY the state withers, or how you can claim any of this is non-ideological.

And I bet this is happening in every western country right now. Because it's not just some movement, it's a symptom of our historical moment and we all have that in common at least in NATO cunts

there is no historic basis for end capitalism the state was displaced a long time ago. lumpens are not at all easy to spot because no one cares to throw their comfy wage slavery away for revolution
ferguson and whatnot are what you called sunday picnic, protest as a hobby, capitalist fetish, i know what i mean because their goal has nothing to do with class struggle

weed sellers can get into politics all they want, they cannot betray what made them, consumerism

because they are non-issues, just like trump putting anti-government politician in government, nothing happens and no one cares, the only thing that happens is more money being wasted on political fighting

>states

Your ideology brings decay and collapse. You are correct to say that the world is ending. The reaction exists to restore and rebuild the world after you barbarians have ruined it.

>our choice is between organized leftwing anarchISM and mere disorganized apocalyptic anarchy
I should prefer the latter. It's Hobbes' war of all against all - and we know that that gives us absolute monarchy, the most civilised form of government.

this, if anything the state has become powerless in the last 50 years. The most powerful forces which shape society right now are private corporations. 50 years ago the american government delivered on a plan to put americans on the moon, today the american government is just a daycare for old men while elon musk promises to put man on mars.

How communes will produce rockets,planes and medicine.Please explain I has autisms .

they wont because anarchism is retarded

>tfw 3 days to go on my leftypol ban
i feel your pain comrade

>Your ideology brings decay and collapse
Epic meme

forced labor

>black dudes who live on their mom's couch in public housing and sell weed are a serious percent of the US population in some regions, and as of like 5 years ago they are actually getting into politics in a real way.

dont make me laugh, holy shit youre retarded

>the economy