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No

>*Russia cuts off gas*

No

No

>Finland will have its largest military exercise with USA in 2020
We basically are in NATO already.

No

Sure

>asshurt scandicucks

delet this

This. Russia supplies 100% of Finland's gas. No way Finland would join NATO.

Why should we join NATO

If Finland joins NATO we will attack Finland because we can't afford to be surrounded by Amerimutt mongrels

what's going on here

We will in a few years
Not a problem really

No

>it's simply about gas
Finns aren't stupid to die for your (((government)))

Get out of here. For northern hemisphere eyes only.

Cause your military is too weak to defend your country

We would give them gas.. for a price

Lie

Finnish military is outdated and so is NATO. They both should be abolished.

We need Finland to join so we can finally surround our greatest enemy. Sw*den

Finland will be annexed by both Sweden and Russia if they join.

This is the worst thing. We're basically part of NATO without any of the good things that you get by actually joining. Joining NATO should be our priority while it's still possible.

Gas is only 8% of total energy consumption that figure is on the decline anyway. Plus there are other potential providers of natural gas such as

Except this is better. You're guaranteed without Russia pointing it's nukes at you permanently for stationing American military hardware in Finland.

>You're guaranteed
That's the point, we aren't.

never

If Americans fuck with Ukraine and Syria they'll probably defend Finland as well

You're not Russian top priority anyway, so you don't need to worry. You'll know when the time has come.

Our politicians will call you when the Russian tanks are 5km from Helsinki.
They're fucking spineless.

>Finland is not in NATO despite being Russia's neighbor
why is the Finnish man so alpha?

I thought that was the guy who lost his thumb. Who was it then if not him?

>le evul russian aggressor
Russia have literally 0 reason to attack Finland as long as Finland doesn't act or make preparations for any such acts threatening her sovereignty or ability to act accordingly.

se läski

Don't

You must be
1. naive
2. ignorant
3. stoopid
4. vatnik
5. all of the above
to believe the shite you just wrote.

We are practically in NATO considering our exercise partners and Russian view on our allegiance. We just don't have the protection of Article 5. Good enough.

Russia would literally attack/annex any country if they believed they could get away with it

This isn't the 1940s, pekka. No one would benefit from war nor does anyone desire it.

Most Russian people long for the USSR days and would support any attempt to increase territory

Sweeden? You mean cold arabia?

people want to have the old glory back, mostly because skewed nostalgia
doesnt mean they thin imperealistic mongrel

China will dominate the Earth and Amerimutts will witter away from too much negro blood in their veins.

America is getting infused with more Asians than Blacks nowadays.

FUCK NATO

Has to also be some benefit in invasion
Like for example to prevent imminent NATO membership of a country that is within artillery range of our second biggest city
No

Russia move to secure and protect her interest where necessary, just like every other country. America certainly is no stranger to this concept.

Wanting more territory does not imply the means one find tolerable to materialize such an intention. Your going beyond what can be reasonably implied by such a supposed study is nothing short of character assassination.

USA is done for, that is why you are so desperate to incorporate white countries into your Army, your empire is rotting away from the inside and will soon be a lost memory.

No. We have no reason to join. I just wish our politicians would stop doing whatever the US and the EU tell us to do. Finland needs to stop imitating Sweden and start becoming their own country.

I'm sorry, what is you're demographic trend?

>le current year argument
Motivations to invade or excersise some other form of power over another seemingly sovereign state, could simply be seen as an equasion between the costs and expenses.
Currently invading Finland would be a costly thing. But the moment you start believing that shit like another war could not happen is the moment it starts happening.
Scenario: If Finland wasn't in the EU, or in Eurozone, if we'd be poor as Moldova, with a nonexistent army, and had little foreign relations, it would be certain that our country would be (de facto) led from Moscow, not Helsinki.
Is Belarus a 100% "sovereign" country? Are they so by their own will? What about an EU country? Does the EU take bits and bops of national sovereignty by force or do the nations give it freely in exchange of some profit?

>No one would benefit from war nor does anyone desire it.
Wrong.

We try but you dont take us.

I guess Switzerland is led from Germany then

stop opressing minorities idiot

>stop opressing minorities
Are u mad? What you talking about?

States aren't identical. You need an argument to equate Germany to current Russia.
Switzerland has army and money and good foreign relations (and economical interdependencies with the European countries). They matter. They have 3 out of the 5 things I listed, if you read my post at all.

Jokes on you, we already have Russia under control

Why the fuck it looks like a scene from a disney fairy tale where a hero succumbs to antagonist's witchcraft

So would we even if we left the EU

Putin is finno-ugric double agent. He's ultimate goal is to crash russia with no survivors

Austria should join desu.

Yeah, I've noticed it

These are simply other means by which countries can choose to defend themselves with. It is in essence no different from the initial scenario.

>Is Belarus a 100% "sovereign" country?...
No country can act without consequence, this limits some more than others. It is simply how power works.

>your empire is rotting away from the inside and will soon be a lost memory.
kind of like Europe?

Trump should let Europeans defend Europe. Nato without America is a joke.Would be fantastic to see Euros reinstate consciption and kick out security risks(muslims) and MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN

Eurozone is not EU, so that'd be 4 :^)
Leaving the EU now would affect negatively on 4 of those factors (not our army). What's the point in deliberately weakening our position?

And in Switzerland's case you could say they are not immune to the influence of Germany, or other neighbouring countries. Thankfully they're on good terms. Might be because they're culturally so similar...

We are in Asia, not Europe.

>No country can act without consequence, this limits some more than others. It is simply how power works.
My point exactly.

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no

hej Finlandia join Intermarium :DDDD
t. Józef

PS:
xDDDD

fuck nato

>Most Russian people long for the USSR days
youre retarded

t. swede

They will get annexed by Putler just like the Baltic countries will anyway so they're a bit late regardless.

No.