FUCK THE US

>mfw both Mexico and Brazil will elect left-wing presidents next year
feels excelent. Fuck the US, long live LatAm

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>he made the thread again

we won't even notice if you do. have fun fucking up your economy though.

You won't notice anything bar the next big "sport" event or somebody trying to implement sensible gun control or even research the subject.

Electing a far left president gives the USA a casus-beli tbqh

yeah, to destroy democracy and bring "freedom"

NAME OF THIS BITCH NAO PLS

>sensible
the buzz-word you're looking for is "common-sense"

ah, because brazil has had such good luck with left wing presidents

clearly it didn't. I mean you can see from this graph that we didn't grew during 2002-2016

You will get millions of new Mexicans

Does she have sex with the monkey?

nah theres places in the world that are actually relevant. america has more leverage over latam than vice versa, they will fuck themselves up if they do anything too retarded (par for the region) while there would be minimum blowback here

But the US is left now. You're just getting along.

>they will fuck themselves up if they do anything too retarded (par for the region) while there would be minimum blowback here
yeah like growing too much and gaining independence from the US to the point of the US having to act to stop us again

if giving the cia a couple of dollars fucks your country up, you should reevaluate your entire country

if you need big intelligence agencies to intervene in other countries to sustain your world supremacy, you should reevaluate the real dominance of your country

Saying shit to your national broadcast blaming the US for having a failed economy and probably insulting them like a good banana president is pretty much everything that a commie government can do against the U.S

youtube.com/watch?v=Isv2yW8u05E

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>Brazil economy grows during massive boom in America
>Brazil economy shrinks during massive recession in America

Why do Latin Americans like socialism so much?

we grew 5% in 2008 and 7,5% in 2010. The crisis in america was in 2008 wasn't it?

and two of your presidents during that period were impeached on corruption scandals, of course brazil will see development, the least developed nations these days see the quickest development

m8, can you read a graph?
>of course brazil will see development, the least developed nations these days see the quickest development
are you stupid? we are still the 9th economy of the world and back then we were the 6th. Also Dilma wasn't stepped down due to corruption scandals, but for trying to stop them, also most of the politicians that supported her impeachment were basically pro-US and neoliberals which are in power nowadays, including drug traffickers and other nasty stuff

>Your supremacy doesn't count because it's not big and flashy
My sides are in orbit.

A recession takes a few years to really affect national economies.

did the roman empire need to basically force every tribe in their sphere to rule for 1000 years? America dominance basically exists nowadays through force and money alone, basically no country wants to become American or be like Americans, the American dream is basically to be a miserable nihilistic zombie that feels artificially superior to others through propaganda statistics by the global media and the amount of shiny rocks they have in their pockets. Being American is equal to being blob that exists only to consume and work, real empires gave people a spiritual and cultural reason to exist, and made people strive for greatness and transcend common sense, while America literally enforces common sense for more profit to the point of destroying spirituality and differences worldwide for more money and basically brainwash the whole world into being shallow stupid human beings that waste their life away for a small global elite

no it doesn't

>both Mexico and Brazil will elect left-wing presidents next year

help

Yes, it does. If the economy reacted immediately to growth, stagnation, and recession we wouldn't have shit like housing bubbles in the first place.

Under Trump how would a right wing mexican president help Mexico in any way, shape or form? Funny how all the right wing mexicans here fail to answer that question and instead quickly try to switch the topic or reveal that they are actually just americans bumming around Mexico. Really makes you think.

>picking a left wing populist retard again
hasn't brazil learnt anything from Lula and populism?

The fact that you subscribe to the idea of empire that was put forth by imperial elites in the first place demonstrates that American hegemony is the new Rome.

>have fun fucking up your economy though

you have shit like housing bubbles because your economists are retards.

Lula left office with 90% approval rate and was deemed the most popular president on Earth. Also we grew 7,5% at the last year of his government

$0.01 has been deposited into your account.

We have always been centrist, but thanks to Tump, many mexicans feel now to go full socialism to compensate.

Either way, we are all already fucked

I see that you are trolling, you had a good run good job

Nice line of bullshit, no "centrist' I've ever seen has been bitching about the possibility of a left wing government in Mexico.

I want to be that monkey. How can I get brazilian citizenship?

No, we have shit like housing bubbles because we can afford houses.

You are literally avoiding the question.

If you honestly think that the plebs get anything non-material from imperialism you are exactly the kind of nostalgic romanticist that elites love to exploit.

>grew 7,5%
thats called public spending bubble. it will pop sooner or later.

Is OP Mexican? Nigga, what?

Bolsonaro is the favourite in 2018, he is right wing.

Nigga, OP is a fucking commie, don't take him seriously.

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Homicide rates exploded when Lula and Dilma ware president. OP is an AIDS liberal faggot.

no, you have shit like housing bubbles because your government and people are literally bank puppets
Ah no they clearly don't, I mean the spanish and the portuguese basically conquered the natives in the Americas solely by force and not by changing their hearts, the same with the romans and others. Clearly the only way to conquer the world is by brute force alone and constant agression like nowadays. If anything up till WW2 the plebs had so much faith to the point of fighting and dying for their country and for the things the believe, which nowadays is nothing but empty values
Do you even keynes my friend?

>no, you have shit like housing bubbles because your government and people are literally bank puppets
>Telling this to a leaf
laffo

homicide rates exploded in the 80s when cocaine was introduced here

>We have always been centrist
No, we have not. We were outright socialist after the revolution and well into the 60s, when the PRI, a party affiliated to "socialist international" because it was founded under those ideas, slowly changed until we became full blown Neo-Liberals in the 80s, right when PRD (the left wing disspointed part of the PRI) slipped from it to create it's own party. So PRI should probably be kicked out of the association.

Hell, the fucking 1917 constitution was influential for the constitutions of the Weimar Republic and the 1918 Russian constitution, as it was the most liberal constitution in the world when it was created.

We also pretty much had state atheism for a while for Christs sake. Which is what caused the Cristero war.

>bolsominions are this delusional

saved

>no, you have shit like housing bubbles because your government and people are literally bank puppets
Explain how banks in America can force people to take on so much debt that they become insolvent. While you're at it, explain how banks can force people to buy houses and inflate the market, even when it's clear for years that a market correction is forthcoming.

>Fuck the US
We've been over this. Why do you keep making this thread?

>Explain how banks in America can force people to take on so much debt that they become insolvent.
Let me clarify: the banks are the ones becoming insolvent.

>Explain how banks in America can force people to take on so much debt that they become insolvent.
You think it's normal for people to have this much impulse for buying new stuff all the time to the point of needing credit from banks? Also debt culture is everywhere, and it's encouraged by your governments to the point that everything essential like healthcare, university tuitions costs more money than you can actually afford to keep you hooked in debt. Your whole system revolves into debt, and since your government exists to please rich people, the banks started to give so much credit to the point of insolvency to the point that OMG the government with people's money had to bail them out while they were profiting all along with dirty loans from an all out corrupted system. Basically US-aligned countries are like this, all of them are basically hostages of the international financial system to the point that governments have to please and rescue them out when they need, so they do as they please, including printing infinite money to slowly corrode people salaries by inflation and cheap work force from other countries and letting the banks loan infinite money so that their population can become their debt slaves. The 2008 crisis has basically shown how rotten capitalism is nowadays

No actually that wasn’t. It was called China’s economic growth being very real.

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m8, real capitalism stopped being a thing when the WW2 ended and Bretton-Woods agreement was signed and afterwards the petrodollar system. USA and its allies economies basically survive off the US forcing the Saudis to buy oil in USD and other commodities through it. Basically all US allied countries survive off their market and ramifications that come off from world-supplied petrodollar that basically enables the US to print infinite US Dollars without going into hyperinflation, and that basically drags all their allied countries into this vortex of economic madness where printing money and debt is the key and production is secondary. Also hence why every US enemy are basically the ones that are trying to stop the petrodollar and the global finance USD system that basically puts them at the top of their game

Debt is how capitalism works, user. Without debt, there is no capitalism. I mean, it's literally the difference between before capitalism and after capitalism. People were too broke to offer loans before, now they're not.

The British have been in debt since before America existed. Debt isn't bad. Forcing our enemies to bend to our will isn't bad. Stop being a leftist cuck. Socialism doesn't work. Not on paper, not in reality.

I mean Marx was a retarded NEET that society shunned. He literally would've been a redditor making "muh 1%" copypasta if he was alive today.

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>Stop being a leftist cuck.
>Socialism doesn't work.
>Not on paper
>not in reality
>I mean Marx was a retarded NEET that society shunned
You know you should at least try to make your meme talking points flow together when trying to bait someone, right?

>all that common sense is just memes, user
>why don't you come back with some truly off-the-wall shit, like steal from the rich and give to the poor!
>you know, some new form of government where the masses control everything through a single unelected dictator or something who maintains power by simply killing anyone that would oppose him
>even if it's millions of people

Nah you're right, socialism or bust.

>long live LatAm
You won't live very long if you put commies in power (again lawl)
t. P*le

why are you in australia

>be third world shithole
>destroy your economy even more
Why?

Low IQ

>did the roman empire need to basically force every tribe in their sphere to rule for 1000 years?
Yes. When they stopped due to internal conflicts the great migrations happened.

AUDs and family
>inb4 full

>all that common sense
Stopped reading.
>my corrupt shithole is socialism because i say so
>"fuck off middle class american lefty! i lived under the horrors of socialism!" (year of birth: 1989)
Always laugh when I see this """""argument""""".

Centrists are broadly concerned with the plight of the middle class, and the growth of the Mexican middle class is essentially entirely fueled by FDI from the United States. Left-wing politicians in Mexico aren't like left-wing politicians in the Anglosphere - they hate foreign investment of any sort because it requires the granting of equity in national assets to foreign entities.

So yeah, Mexican 'centrists' probably have a lot of reasons to be afraid of a left-wing govt

Do you honestly believe poverty will be solved by socialism?

Show me a single example of that happening and I'll vote for Bernie in 2020.

Hell, even in countries that are "sort of" socialist and where the socialism is "working" they're actually capitalist and are only successful because they literally have no military to pay for. And hilariously they're going broke due to universal healthcare. Canada literally profits off the backs of pharmaceutical advances Americans make at the expensive of hundreds of billions of dollars and then makes claims of how amazing their healthcare is because prescriptions cost so little while they wait 3 months to get an x-ray for their broken foot.

Don't mind him
It is always the same dumb poster

>makes literally every meme argument he possibly can
jej
Also
>bernie is a socialist
>socialist nordic countries are actually capitalism
Pick one.
bolsominion

You do realize that most of that shit happens in socialist countries, right?

I mean, China alone has killed millions of people by accidentally starving them to death.

And Bernie Sanders is absolutely a communist you retard. He is legitimately an actual, real, 100% diehard communist. Look it up fuckface.

And Nordic countries are capitalist. Are you a college student or something? You're really stupid.

>And Bernie Sanders is absolutely a communist you retard. He is legitimately an actual, real, 100% diehard communist. Look it up fuckface.
This is the part where I stop believing you actually wanted to have an argument. You need to work on your bait skills. You can't make it this obvious.

>Canada literally profits off the backs of pharmaceutical advances Americans make at the expensive of hundreds of billions of dollars and then makes claims of how amazing their healthcare is because prescriptions cost so little while they wait 3 months to get an x-ray for their broken foot.
No, we really don't. Canadians pay just as much as Americans for prescription drugs. The difference is that our doctors don't get kickbacks from pharmacorps so they're willing to prescribe generics.

India will truly become a superpower

>when a fucking AMERICAN tries to lecture south american countries on the benefits of welfare state and socialism
like quoting Das Kapital on Facebook from your iPhone

t. Mauricio "Sicilians are white" Macri

>3. ALL politics and current events belong on Sup Forums

>Macri
>the guy that not only didn't limit welfare but increased the people on some kind of welfare
>the guy with no balls to carry out a fully fledged reform
I wish he was half as capitalist and libertarian as me. But please, educate me about my country. Don't forget to throw in a few nods and glances to something about race and whiteness because that's apparently relevant

Bolsanaro will make Mexico great.

I still like brazil, hope you elect a good leader regardless of what direction they lean.

>they hate foreign investment of any sort
Not really, maybe they won't sell our country as easy as the right and center did the past 12 years, but they all are basically the same.
The only difference might be that the center isn't homophobic like the others, and that it's the most corrupt by far of them all, but that's it.

You're not 'selling your country', you're leveraging the assets you have to increase economic growth.

Among nationalists, protectionists latinamerican left wing members, having foreign companies and capitals is a big no no because why wont you thing about the poor oppressed people you filthy imperialist burgeoise? omg right wingers are LITERALLY selling our country piece by piece to FOREIGNERS that want nothing but to profit from you
vote for me btw, i'm not like that, i'm one of yours, you should know that since i wont stop attributing bad ethics to the other party

No right wing Mexican has actually answered this question this whole thread.

>you're leveraging the assets you have to increase economic growth

>both Mexico and Brazil will elect left-wing presidents next year

>López Obrador
>left-wing

More like, "I don't know what I'm exactly proposing but vote for me for the third time in a row"

Ah yes, le ebin porky maymay, the height of leftypol argumentation

>u r leftypol!!!

this is a pretty good argument
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Fruit_Company

>did the roman empire need to basically force every tribe in their sphere to rule for 1000 years
Yes actually, that's exactly what happened.

I'm a left-wing academic (non-STEM, of course) and even I find this reasoning to be lazy garbage. Sort yourself out you cretin

please if el Peje is elected just blow the shit out of the almos half socialist peaces of shit on this country that want free stuff without selling/working/producing/inventing/investing