Is it too hard to get into a masters program in western europe or usa with a gpa 2.8 (economics)?
Is it too hard to get into a masters program in western europe or usa with a gpa 2.8 (economics)?
>economics
K E K
depends on the ranking of the university. high rankings, no, low rankings, sure they ll accept you.
I don't really care about the rankings. Any random school would work for me. I just want to study in a major international city.
sure then just apply, they ll prolly accept you. but be careful about the language of courses in the university, language can be a real barrier if they are in a language that you dont know.
Yeah, it has to be in english. Which probably increases competition I guess.
if it was phd it would be easy, most eu universities dont have courses in phd programs so you are right in for the research immediatly and there you can communicate in english easily but for masters you have to take courses which may causes problem. try bongland maybe or northern countries, like sweden, norway etc.
I really want UK. Hope they'll take my parent money and lazy ass.
Ne siz Turkler Igilizce konusuyorsunuz bir birinizle ?
>economics
lmao nigga
what you gonna do with that, be a fucking accountant?
I'm planning to do import/export
Başkaları da anlasın diye. Belki bi bilgi verirler
Istanbul is better than a lot of western cities desu.want to move to istanbul I live in a mid sized english town, one of richest in country, but kind of boring.
I will go back to Turkey anyway. Just want to study abroad for 1-2 years.
And, you're insane.
>roach
>import/export
8/10 trolling
had a solid chukle
why? Istanbul is very nice and islamic city. People here are stuck up rich cunts turks are nice. In my county (Surrey) people have too much money for their own good, house prices are so high. I could buy a mansion in Istanbul and live with good Muslims and nice people.
sure but abroad experience is very good when you are trying to find job back in turkey. i d really like to continue my phd in europe as well but it didnt really work out.
well if you ll use parent money then dont do it ever. they ll know when they take a look at your cv afterwards and it ll look bad.
this
where are you from originally? i d go back to my hometown if i were you, its better to be a 1st class citizen in almost all cases.
Well, if you're a muslim it's different. But Istanbul's house prices are rocket high. You may consider İzmir.
you can find pretty good houses for 150k euroes in pretty good neighborhoods desu
originally godamn paki shit , so Istanbul is better. I know Turks are racist ish but nowhere near British.
What do Turks think of Pakis? I promise I will bring at least 500 000 thousand pounds.
lel
Econ fag here with a terrible GPA
We're doomed bro. I can't even get a job that pays more than $16/hour.
We probably will if you adjust your expectations and have loads of money.
where in Surrey?
500k pounds is about 565k euros. what can I get in Istanbul for this price?
500k pounds is nice money but it ll drain sooner or later, istanbul is still pretty expensive place.
well i dont think them highly because there are some high number of paki students in my university and, no offense but you guys are really dirty.
though not much people will bother with you in a city, university is a small community after all and word travels fast.
3 months in jail
On the border bit between Woking and Runneymede. House prices are ridiculous, my shitty three bed costs 570k
We don't have a lot Pakis here. If you have a dark skin probably they will be racist. But it would be sure more comfortable as a muslim.
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If I get a job there of some sort (finishing University right now) then will it be good?
>adjust your expectations
what do you mean?
you can get a very nice flat, like a mansion, but then you ll be out of money.
you can get a 150k euro-ish flat, which is still pretty nice and spend the rest for whatever you want. i guess a semi-luxurious life in istanbul costs about 4k euros monthly. you wont be like those celebrities, but you will have really nice time and do almost whatever you want.
2.8 is internationally a bit on the low side. In my uni, you need 3.0 and above if fresh from Bachelors. However, if you have working experience in the field that you want, it usually counts. Most unis want 2-5 years of minimum working experience in the same field. Good luck user.
You can do a lot of things actually. But they all are boring as fuck. Econ really is a doomed major. I was able to major computer science but chose econ. fuck me.
means you ll get into a shit university so much that its diploma is toilet paper
sure but getting a good paying job in turkey isnt that easy especially if you arent ethnically turkish or have a very good cv desu.
people also like to hire ethnical europeans for the language as well.
ben de istanbul'a tanışmaya istiyorum
o benim memleketim zaten
OK, so better to stay in england. I can get something like 50 000 euros a year after graduation here, is that better prospects than Turkey?
Actually when I'm done with the school my gpa will be 3+ but it will be after the application time.
abi what if i am ethnic TÜRK BULL but am born and educated in wh*Te kingdom, will I have better prospects in Turkey than the Paki?
stay in there user. Turkey is racist as fuck too. Probably even more than UK. You can always visit Turkey to look around though.
50k euros yearly is huge money in turkey so you wont ever earn it, as i said earlier if you earn about, say, 3k euros a month, you ll have insanely easy life and save up a lot of money. but getting that kind of job isnt particularly easy and you may not start 3k euros with a very high chance, but getting there, if you have a proper degree/cv doesnt take too much time as well, like 3 years or something if you are an engineer for example. all my friends who got into jobs after their graduation from masters (was 3 years ago) now earn around 2.5k euros.
gel xocam sen bizdensin :DD
Of course. You'll probably do very good here.
fair enough. HOPEFULLY, AKP will teach them value of Islamic solidarity and take less importance on race because osmanli were so not racist even zenci flied planes. only recently post ataturk racism start.
You just lost me
5~ miles down the road from you mate. Small world. Kind of surprised you consider us racist tb h, but yes it's very expensive around here
I don't know what your GPA translates to, but don't expect to get into LSE or something if it's average or shit.
holy shit, 3k euro a month? Average salary in the UK is like 21k. Even cleaners make 15k AT LEAST. I thought Turkey was quite developed?
>what is exchange rate
3k euro month is very good money in turkey.
gel babo. bıktık bu suriyelilerden. türk nüfusu artsın artık biraz şehirde
Of course I don't expect that. It's 2.8/4. Same system with the USA. Any school in a major city would be okay.
still, that is very low. how do they buy iPhones, or Gucci, or any international product?
haha stay out of my country paki
birçok mu var?
%100 gelicem bile en kötü olsa
türkiye benim ülkem
uk is very racist
west sussex here
:DDDDDDDDD
dad always feeding me propaganda about how turkey is the worst place on earth and how I'd never get anywhere in turkey cause I was born here
I've been living in England on around 500 quid a month my entire life, and this is with my whole family combined (mum, sister, brother, me, dad)
and England is much much more expensive considering I'm in the south east
if I can live just about fine with 500 quid in the UK, then 3k euros is a fucking god-lifestyle in turkey and to think that is very low you must be the poshest cunt lol
Excuse me lad, who is this literal semen deity?
they are pretty expensive comparing to you. But people buy them anyway. Even cleaners get iphones. Minimum wage is like 1.5k liras. Iphone X is like 6k kek
textile is less expensive in turkey in general. electronics on the other hand pretty much same because its international pricing and turkey isnt a producer country.
a good house, its heating, electricity, water, internet would cost around 1-1.2k euros, a very nice meal in turkey would cost 50 tls = 10 euros. say you eat 3x of it every day, it d make around 900 euros for food. so voila, if you earn 3k euros, you only spend 2k and you spent it without caring about it as well btw. like no one in turkey eats 3x 10 euro meals a day. so in 2 months time, you save up enough money for the next month. you do the rest of the math.
but as i said, getting into such a job is not easy at all. i am glad i have stem degree desu, i also have masters, doing phd now, i am in such a good advantage, now i want to find a good job. i ll earn shit load of money in 3-4 years time. all my friends did it, even the most idiot ones.
a random bitch i found on facebook.
I dunno man, 3k a month would be 36k yearly right? Pretty low. Graduate from my course (law at UCL) averages 47k after 5 years, when they are still in early 20s
well desu, you have very good english now, its a nice thing to know good english in turkey while you are looking for a job because most turks dont know english or even if they do they know it shit.
get a good university degree and get your ass back to the motherland
>if I can live just about fine with 500 quid in the UK, then 3k euros is a fucking god-lifestyle in turkey
this guy gets it. my family of 3 (father, mother, teenager sister) live with around 4k ish euros a month in a very comfortable manner. 3k euros for a single man is a lot of money if you dont plan to spend it like a you are in a casino of course.
fair point, accounting for cost of living Turkey is probably better. But if Turkey is racist best to stay in England.
but what it translates in the purchasing power from country to country differs. england is 100% more expensive compared to turkey, so even if you earn 50k yearly it may not be enough, 36k yearly is more than enough to have a luxurious life.
>Even cleaners get iphones
>be me
>living in UK
>never afforded iPhone before
jealous of my bredrin back home desu
abi ben altyaşım
sence ne çalışmalıyım iyi bi gelecek için türkiye'de?
idk bruv im from west sussex which isn't as rich as surrey but 3k lira exchanged to gbp is a bit more than i've been living off my whole life in england, a much more expensive country
going to turkey from the time to time everything is piss cheap compared so i'd imagine 3k tl is god-tier
>get your ass back to the motherland
will do kardeşim
anavatanıma geliyorum
mühendislik oku. yazılım baya iyi.
i am not sure what racism you mean desu. i mean we turks are very much agitated with the recent syrians but other than that, i am yet to see someone beating down a syrian just for the sake of beating him, or mistreating him. people just "avoid" you know.
>inb4 posting videos of syrians getting beaten in turkey
well 100% of them are like, some bunch of idiots are trying to hit on girls publicly in a disgusting manner and neighborhood chimpsout because of it.
this yazılımda çok para var türkiyede. üstelik yükselme olanakları da oldukça yüksek. fakat ekmek aslanın ağzında, her zaman çok çalışman ve kendini sürekli ileriye taşıman gerekecek, yoksa sıradan mühendis olarak kalır, orta seviye maaş alırsın.
o temizlikçiler 80 tane krediyle alıyor iphone u sonra da o kredileri bir türlü ödeyemiyor :DDD
>I've been living in England on around 500 quid a month my entire life, and this is with my whole family combined (mum, sister, brother, me, dad)
Literally how and why? Are you on benefits?
what a tribal mindset. beating syrians even if they do something wrong is quite barbaric. Isn't the whole point of Turkey to be a western nation? Be one then.
>Isn't the whole point of Turkey to be a western nation
lol what. who even claims that? its just all a ruse to fool people around.
also whats wrong with beating some idiots down when they harrass women?
It's complicated user.
Either be Islamic or be Western. But Turkish secularists are acting as 1910s Europeans. In fact, even the fucking AKP is closer to Western society than the quasi-fascist nature of some of your Kemalist parties.
At least the comars have a decent reputation in the middle east, north africa and asia pacific. same cannot be said of Kemalists in Europe.
yes benefits
my mum was dragged into some shit because she grew up very poor and both her parents died when she was young (dad from alcoholism, mum from cancer, very unlucky)
she wanted to start a new life in england and she's a smart woman i guarantee you, but she doesn't have any formal education and she's mentally not the strongest so we just ended up living off benefits our whole life cause no-one would hire her
also when you're on benefits the government fucks you about quite a bit, you don't get as much as you're meant to, even after you paid a tax they still send you it and keep making you repay it over and over, and take money from you and then you only get small amount of money to feed your family for the month
and the same thing happens next month, i had to work from a very young age to help support my family and still some days we didn't go without a proper meal
if the council paid my mum the correct amount of benefits she should've been paid for her situation, she could claim around 20,000 GBP from how much they stole from us
turkey isn't a western nation, english people beat foreigners all the time
>t. experience
disregard him
he's a hypocrite, brits are some of the most racist fuckers I've ever met, and I'm quite l*Ghtskin for the amount of racism I got
You don't know what you're talking about user. You should come and see the reality.
fuck off you don't know anything about my country i don't know why you're talking as if you do
i believe and support atatürk and he was the best thing to happen to turkey, it didn't turn turkey into a cucked nation cause we still had our culture
Not if you wanna go to a lel school. But seriously even most lel schools here will kick your ass compared to Turkey. I dated a Turkish Chem PhD student and she was in hell.
Also drop Econ
where the fuck do you live. Maybe in the 70s there were skinheads but after 90s in most places Paki gangs ran them out and now they rule streets and even sometimes enforce sharia patrols . You must be a beta cuck if you get beat by the English, they are pathetic.
west sussex on a council estate
my town is 50/50 polski and british
br*Ts always tried to fight me seriously, they're the biggest cunts, in secondary I was fine and I could beat their ass
but in primary I got so much harassment even by the fucking teachers, I honestly have so much resentment for this place, maybe it's cause it's working class I don't know
>Either be Islamic or be Western
why does world have to be black or white? why cant people be themselves? turks are not islamic nor western. turks are turks, just like brits are brits or pakis are pakis.
>In fact, even the fucking AKP is closer to Western society than the quasi-fascist nature of some of your Kemalist parties.
you just proved you have no idea about turkey nor its internal politics and behaviors.
AKP is a pargmatist constant liar entity that doesnt care about anything at all. thats why no one wants to deal with erdoggo anymore, because the guy lies constantly, non-stop. hes not trustwhorth, 0, null. Papatürk never aspired to be "european" as well, he wanted to make turkey better in his own vision, he was in most parts right about what to do as well.
>At least the comars have a decent reputation in the middle east, north africa and asia pacific.
those "çomar"s arent what you think they are. they are just regular people who get carried away with propoganda. today, the propoganda machine says assad is evil, so they chant "assad is evil", tomorrow propoganda machine will say "assad is an amazing guy", so they will chant "assad is an amazing guy".
>same cannot be said of Kemalists in Europe.
most kemalists are anti-europe/america. they want independent and modern turkey, they dont care about "european" values or whatnot, they want turkey to be powerful and they think turkey will be powerful in its own nature if it follows some basic rules that europe manages to follow, such as a good jurisdiction system, proper working merit etc. these are not european values, these are logical values.
please dont talk about turkish politics nor people if you are going to make half-assed assumptions and judgements like that.
and why the fuck doesnt your dad work?
If you're not larping I'll meet u and fight you in woking. Can be there in 10 minutes.
My shool rutgers requires a 3.0 gpa for masters in economics and 3.3 gpa for engineering(im now at 3.2 and i feel like im gonna choke massively)
what reality? I know the nature of Turkish secularists, I have studied Turkey a lot.
lol at this obsession with cuckholdry. Ataturk was right when he said there were many cultures but only one civilisation- the western one. Emulating the west is good.
You can't reason with animals.
>she's a smart woman i guarantee you
>we just ended up living off benefits our whole life cause no-one would hire her
>uses lack of formal education as an excuse to live off of welfare
She's not very smart is she then?
thank you for the information user. It seems like I'm fucked.
>I have studied Turkey a lot.
you clearly have not. continue studying pls.
>hans doesnt beat down the immigrants that harrasses his women and then gets on a mongolian knitting forum to bitch about that instead 24/7
good job hans.
>and why the fuck doesnt your dad work?
he does and he's quite rich actually
i just don't live with him due to reasons, i mistook writing his name when talking about my family
he is a mental guy and i still love him cause he's my father but he's dangerous to live with, so i see him i just don't live with him and he's never helped us financially even in our starving state
I am a Kemalist and so is my whole family
so speak of my nature please
>both parents die when she's extremely young
>bullied her whole life
>not to mention she was in literal poverty as well
hmmm yes it's all her fault isn't it
>implying I do the fighting myself
40 Pakis gather to attack the skinhead menace. They get beat up every time, they do not exist now, but racist still get attacked. I understand there is not many turks so you have no backing.
>more excuses
Nobody gives a shit about potential until it is actually utilized.
>BLURUGHGHGRUGHGH
amerimutt do not speak to me you are not worthy
>40 Pakis gather to attack the skinhead menace
I wish I had this kind of support
there are only Turkish gangs in North London but I live much souther than North London unfortunately
Ahhh you can take the gmat test mate. It's for people with bachelors degree in engineering or some non economics field or for people like you who don't have a B gpa. It's not that hard. Also you can't boost your gpa to reach that 3?
face it, if your mother was actually smart she would have done something to get out of the conditions she was born into like countless others have done. She's lazy and dumb.
The nature of the Kemalist is intresting.
We must remember the nature of Turkey. It was not a nation during Ottoman times , just Muslims who spoke a language, no one identified as a Turk until the end of Ottoman times.
Then the great Ataturk came along, created a strong turk nation, emulating it on western lines.
But the secularist now says, we don't want islamism or western values, just turkish values.
SO WTF IS TURKISH VALUES
the system of emulating the west created by Ataturk which was very succesful?
Islamism of ottoman empire?
Larping as yellow faced mongorians?
>LBURGUGBLURGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
amerisharts don't know struggle don't talk to me
>emulating it on western lines.
Turkey was never ever western
I know this because my parents are both 50-60, they both are from the """Western""" time of Turkey
you can't explain Turkish values, Turkish values are Turkish values, if you're not Turkish you won't understand
we're proud of our brothers, we have loyalty, we stand up for ourselves, we let ourselves be heard etc
Sure, my gpa will be at least 3 when I graduate. But it will be after the application time so when I apply to the school, they will see my current gpa which is 2.8.
But I want to start studying right away since I already lost time in undergrad.
So your Dad is a gangster and your Mum is on benefits. Got it.
Lol if you're not larping the fucking audacity of you. Btw you guys used to get bashed all the time in Woking from what I've heard.
>amerisharts don't know struggle don't talk to me
So your response to the realities in life, much like your mother's, is to plug your ears and yell LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALA YOU DONT KNOW ME
Literally nigger-tier
>So your Dad is a gangster
I wish
he's a quality assurance manager and also rents out houses
if he was a gangster I'd have a lot of people I hate dead by now
>We must remember the nature of Turkey. It was not a nation during Ottoman times , just Muslims who spoke a language, no one identified as a Turk until the end of Ottoman times.
ahahahahahaha
>Then the great Ataturk came along, created a strong turk nation, emulating it on western lines.
>emulating it
HAHAHAHAHA
>SO WTF IS TURKISH VALUES
>the system of emulating the west created by Ataturk which was very succesful?
>Islamism of ottoman empire?
>Larping as yellow faced mongorians?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
so THIS is the brit education? damn man. cant believe you idiots once ruled the waves. oh well, i guess all empires rise and fall afterall.
i mean i am pretty sure your teachers were good etc., but you were kind of an idiot so didnt get the memo like ever. but whatever. continue with your "knowledge". you amuse me.
holy cringe thread
kek, about as much values as a gang. I love REAL Kemalists, I like comars, but I hate with a passion these BTEC Kemalists.
very true until recently. until mass paki migration woking was a skinhead city.
I'd be ostracized by my friends, fired from my job and ultimately crucified by an angry mob if I tried that here. Bitching about it online is all I can do.
haha, can't refute anything.
>Literally nigger-tier
>LE NEGROES
>BLUURGGHHHHHH I AM WIITEEEE!!