Poland literally shifted West after WW2

Poland literally shifted West after WW2.

Those sly Russian took Polish land and replaced it with German lands.

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>Those sly Russian took Polish land
True. Fuck Stalin.
>replaced it with German lands.
Germany wanted the war, they lost, and they killed and destroyed many Polish people and cities, then Poland deserved a territorial gain. Fuck you, german dick sucker.

>killed and destroyed many Polish people and cities, then Poland deserved it. Fuck you.

Yes, Poland deserved it

kek no it was the Poles and Anglos who started the war if they had just returned danzig nothing would have happened

why should Polamd have seceded danzig? it was only in the 1780s that Germany and Russia conspired to eliminate the sovereign Polish state. Germans get no sympathy.

>Yes, Poland deserved it

just like ze Heidis, every fucking push oh yeah...mmm

>looks only at pre and post-war borders
>ignores centuries of history
Germans can be happy that they even still have a state.

As if Hitler would just stop his Lebensraum plans if he just give Danzig

>vilna
>poland
Good thing that Polish imperialism was ended and stolen clay taken away from them. Now if only Russia did the same and fucked off from the Baltics.

Some proto-slavs lived in the green areas like 1000 years ago so it's rightful Polish clay t. Poles

In reality it was Stalin who redraw the borders of Eastern Europe as he wished.

they had more
two states

you're always welcome on uralic mountains bro

>In reality it was Stalin who redraw the borders of Eastern Europe as he wished.
Better Stalin than the Jews.

>hitler remilitarize rhine
>let him have it, he will calm down now
>hitler anslush austria
>whatever
>hitler invades sudetes
>just leave him be it will be alright!
>hitler annexes czechia
>surely now its gonna be peaceful forever
>hitler wants gdansk which germany has no rights to
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>et cetera

are you really this stupid?

still was 80% german.

>>hitler annexes czechia
this didn't happen
>>hitler wants danzig
of course he did, the poles stole it unjustly after ww1

The world would be better without Germany. Their only goal is to destroy Europe for 1600 years.

Eastern Poland was Ukrainian and Belarusian anyway. Also, Poland stole Zaolzie and Vilna so they deserved to lose those parts.

>ignores centuries of history
So Croatia is rightful Albanian clay?

Hitler was a good boy he dindu nuffing it was tha evil jooz

France was the aggressor for the last 5000 years.

Germans unjustly stole Poland.

poland provoked the war by not returning their stolen land

>>>hitler annexes czechia
>this didn't happen
defacto it was an annexation, czechian republic became "protektorate böhmen und mähren" it was a defacto annexation of the czech republic.

>>hitler wants danzig
>of course he did, the poles stole it unjustly after ww1
they didn't stole it, danzig was a free city at this time. poland had some special rights about trade and port rules in the danzig region.

truth

justification for war is rarely ever just

Why the fuck should Poland have given their only seaport?

>Those sly Russian took Polish land and replaced it with German lands.
I'm okay with this to be honest.
Lwów is pretty and all, but the further we are from the East, the better.

Hardly. In all areas of former Eastern Poland, except Stanislawow, Poles constituted the ethnic majority and usually outnumbered the other ethnicities by a factor of at least 2:1. Saying that these areas were Ukrainian or Belarussian is blatantly false, as they were neither administered by these ethnicities, nor did these ethnicities constitute ethnic majorities there.
Same applies to Zaolzie, where Poles also outnumbered Czechs and other ethnicities by a large margin.

It's funny how people jerk off over Putin annexing Crimea because of the Russian majority there, or Germany invading Danzig because of the German majority there, but when Poland does it you people sperg out. Be fair.

>Be fair
why? Polish is a joke of a nation

Maybe it is. But so is your mafia ridden, AIDS infested country that has a lower GDP than fucking South Korea, while having 100x the territory and 4x the population and access to half the world's natural resources.

The only reason it was Polish majority is because the Poles occupied it for centuries. The region was historically East Slavic. It's like saying Finland shouldn't keep its coastline because it was majority Swedish.

Maybe. But then what about parts of Western Poland and East Prussia, which were historically West Slavic, but which got conquered by Germans and their populations either replaced or germanised? Would you say that the Poles have a historic right to these areas, or are the "stolen lands", in your opinion?

>Ukrainian and Belarusian
Red ruthenian and white ruthenian if anything, but even then it was a minority.
>Poland stole Zaolzie
After it was taken from us in 1920.
>and Vilna
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wanna commit suicide

Wilno region naturally polonized itself over the course of history. People that lived there and got kicked back to Poland after the war were natives. Just before the war people that considered themselves Lithuanians were less than 1% of total population of the city.
Zaolzie was a dick move from Czechs. Just after regaining independence we came to peaceful agreement that Polish majority part goes to Poland and other to Czechs, until some time later the jews realized the Polish side has more mines and steal it with the help of the west while we were fighting the commies. It was 123k Poles, 32k Czechs and 22k Germans.
Danzig over the time became mostly German though.

Russia has the second strongest military in the world
If they are an joke country, so is everybody else

In your opinion can a post-Soviet Russia theoretically have the same kind of international power and prestige the USSR did?

Russia would get beat the fuck out by China any day. A huge portion of their equipment is outdated and their soldiers are short twinkish boys.
No. It lost a huge part of the population the USSR did and a lot of military equipment was ceded to the newly formed, independent republics. But the biggest problem is the population loss.

>theoretically
Anything can happen in theory

>Ukrainian
>Belarusian
You do understand these weren't nationalities before 20th century, right?
It's as if American Mulattoes took over one of USA's states today and claimed it was always Mulatto clay.

>Russia would get beat the fuck out by China any day
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I agree that they should be slavic. Since the original slavs who lived there were assimilated, it doesn't matter which slavic country owns those lands.

many Belarusians were mistakenly recorded in Poles only because they were Catholics
In the Russian Empire this was normal

>The only reason it was Polish majority is because the Poles occupied it for centuries.
you truly are the master of logical thinking

Keep dreaming Ivan. The People's Liberation Army would make short work of you. You couldn't even defend yourselves during the Russo-Japanese war, and China is arguably in a much stronger position now than Japan was back then, while Russia only got weaker.
You were specificially referring to East Slavs in your earlier posts, now to Slavs in general. Do you believe that there is enough of a difference between them to warrant such a distinction? Would you agree that Russia should own all Slavic lands?

Have we ever seen chinese military in action?
Syrian War has proven that Russian military is rather capable

Now if you finished sucking your own dick, explain how you defeat China.

We haven't seen the Chinese military in any sort of conflict for a long time, since they don't like to intervene militarily, unlike the USA or Russia. Russia performed well bombing the small war-torn state of Syria yes, and it has a stronger military than any European country, nobody is denying that. But China is stronger. They have more equipment, more airplanes, and most importantly more manpower.

>They have more equipment, more airplanes, and most importantly more manpower.
That doesn't necessary mean they would win. On paper, the arab nations were far superior to Israel, yet they managed to lose within 6 days.
If your military isn't constantly fighting wars, you are gonna lack the necessary experience

Generally speaking, If the people there see themselves as different from their neighbours I think they should be independent. Since Western Poland only contained Poles and Germans and was historically slavic, it should go to Poland. Eastern Poland contained Byelorussians and Ukrainians who saw themselves as different people and so should be independent. I think Russia should be balkanised to the extent that the independent nations can exist economically.

>If your military isn't constantly fighting wars, you are gonna lack the necessary experience
I agree. Troops and most importantly generals need combat experience. China doesn't have as much experience as Russia in that regard, but they regularly employ their military to crack down on their muslim separatist regions, and they have also sent huge numbers of military personel to wartorn areas in Africa to protect local Chinese investment. They do have some experience.

>If your nation isn't constantly fighting wars
USA! USA!

It might seem obvious but if the Russians held on to Poland for a few centuries and half the people were Russian, would you give up your land to Russia?

That's kind of what happened with Crimea, isn't it.

>pic
>even lithuanian commies hated poleshits
based Snieckus

>Byelorussians

>I'm okay with this to be honest.
I'm not.

>Eastern Poland was Ukrainian and Belarusian anyway.

>the expat is here
/thread

>invite the Red Army to take Vilnius, a rightfully Polish city, while not lifting a single finger yourselves
>hold a military parade through the city with your own military the very next day, at the same time not allowing Red Army soldiers to participate in the parade
What a disgusting nation Lithuanians are.

Marseille is 80% algerian i suppose we should cede it to algeria ? Oh and i suppose you support kosovo as well ? Go and die pls

>Poland stole Zaolzie
>Czechoslovakia annexes Zaolzie
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish–Czechoslovak_War

>and Vilna

>many Belarusians were mistakenly recorded in Poles only because they were Catholics

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>Poland invades lithuania
>Poland annexes German towns
>P*les murder a bunch of people
>Get invaded
>wtf why

>>Poland invades lithuania
>>Poland annexes German towns
You wut? Pic rel.
>>P*les murder a bunch of people
Oh fuck off idiot.

Never happened

Are you Polish?

Vilnius mūsų :v)

No, I'm Canadian. One of my grandparents is from Poland though, he fled the communist regime. The rest of my family mostly has Scottish ancestry.
Call it muh heritage, but having a bit of Polish blood in me made me interested in the country's history, even though I have never visited it and don't speak the language.

Warum Deutsche volk has 2 fucking pronuntiations for ch, and who the frick are them?

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youtube.com/watch?v=gQERN0x6reU
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_the_Vilnius_region

>Lithuania invades majority Polish town
>and German memeland
>makes dealings with the commies
>Poland seals with border and takes Polish city
>bad
Colonial retards always getting Euro history wrong, stay in your own shitty continent If you kill your enemies they win.

Wrong.

Dude find yourself a real hobby, you've been arguing the same stuff with cretins every day for past what 3 or 4 years ? And what has it gotten you ? Absolutely nothing

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Exactly this

>The city was liberated by the Red Army on July 28, 1944. Pursuant to the agreements of the Yalta Conference of February 1945, Brest's status as part of the Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic was recognized in spite of Polish protests. The Poles of Brest, after 1,000 years of history, were encouraged to emigrate and during the 1940s and 1950s most left for Communist Poland. Today, Poles constitute about 1% of the population.

How do soviet hordes """"""""encourage"""""""" people to emigrate?

The same way Poles encouraged Germans to emigrate.
Poles behaved in such a barbaric manner even Russians had to stop them -occasionally.

I don't think that the country that is responsible for killing millions of Poles and levelling their country to the ground has any moral basis for accusing others of "barbarism".

So the First Nations are going to murder all non-native Canadians?

But that's his job, he works for PIDF. Zbyzhek is almost like a friend to me, after all those years. I wish all Poles looked like picrelated so I could feel sympathy for you degenerate slavic claystealers.

The fuckers have a pretty good deal, they receive tons of benefits and affirmative action for basically just sitting in woods and doing fuck all.

Anyway, Europe should have went with the French proposals and just dismantled the German state altogether. The fact that you were allowed to reunify was one of the biggest mistakes of French and British foreign policy. Now you fuckers are trying to ruin the continent again with your shit ideology.

>You do understand these weren't nationalities before 20th century, right?
not to defend the yank or anything but it's a bit more convenient to simplify the situation rather than referring to the correct historic nationalities which can get a little confusing at times given all the border shifts

MY

>Dude find yourself a real hobby,
I really do rite?

There's something wrong with your head.

this

We'll take back our clay from your fake artificial country, don't worry.
youtube.com/watch?v=tbZDVOyPRHg

The eastern territories belong to Belarus and Ukraine for the most part, not Russia

take shit from svens toilet first

>karma doesn't exis-

I have another idea in mind

I like how you got owned in a previous thread you historical illiterate. You "Ukrainians" are just sad and pathetic. With what I know of history I would be ashamed to be born into an Ukrainian identity.

You havn't deserved. But you should also concentrate on negiotiations with Russia / Belarus and not whine on every other EU member who gave you already trillions of gibsmedats.

Why are you living in Sweden, Gregor? Instead of supporting your home country, you fled and pay taxes somewhere else?

>t. Russian "liberator" offspring in Lithuania

this so much