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なんさいですか?
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>DJT #1
Is there a better way to learn massive amounts of vocab without using Anki?
I've been using Memrise as a supplementary tool, and I've had great success remembering words from that program, but Anki feels so obtuse, it's almost impossible for me to learn anything with.
怒っですなー
2bh I procrastinated for a long time, because I thought the words would stick eventually if I just repeat them often enough (not even an ankidrone)
read, read and then read some more
日本語の勉強の合間に、腋の臭いをどうぞ
Why don't you try on Senryu(川柳: short poetry) as your facile exercise of Japanese?
It is a sentence which consist of 3 phrases and each phrase (upper, middle, lower) shall be in 5,7,5 letters.
(The number of letters could be fractured such as 5,8,5 or 5,7,6 but not recommended)
Themes are totally arbitrary so that you can admire the beauty of nature or reminisce your past love affair.
The pic was this year's awarded masterpieces of silver Senryu(シルバー川柳:Senryu by aged people.)
Just try it.
Google Translate + Jisho + Wiktionary
Read shit you don't understand
Is the text on the right 冒険の旅 or is the last kanji something else? I think it should be, but not quite sure.
秋
could be seen as "長", "秋", "秘", "髪" also..
while left is definitely "ダンゴムシ魔人".
Did you draw it by yourself? Nice.
Dudes, just started 10 days ago and mostly wondering if my stats look alright or if I should decrease from 20 new cards a day? Mostly having trouble with recalling the pronounciation.
>20 new cards a day
sounds little too much.
Thanks, and nope, that's from a manga, I wish I could draw. The left one I kinda figured, although was slightly unsure, so thanks for confirming.
"Facile" normally means superficial and has negative connotations. I wasn't even aware of the non-negative sense until looking it up now.
>字を忘れ考えてるうち文忘れ
Now that's something DJT can relate to
なんのマンガ?
Anyone here using the kanjidamage deck? Only the 6k deck seems to be mentioned here
>superficial and has negative connotations
Thanks anyway. Therefore it should be "easy exercise" or something.
But Weblio present it as the translation of "手軽な"
so what is the proper translation for "facile"?
"お気楽", "簡便", "安易"...
And finally I could come up with "チープな(chiipu-na)" for that meaning.Thanks.
浅はか
The 手軽 meaning exists according to dictionaries, but I have never heard it.
"Although facile means easy and without effort, it always carries with it the negative meaning of superficial ... facile should never be used in a complimentary sense"
worldwidewords.org
>浅はか
>never come up with that one
俺もまた
DJTで
やりなおし
I would just say "easy".
Also don't fret it, "facile" absolutely does mean "easy", but in French. English probably adopted it as an obscure word 800 years ago or something.
I couldn't understand his rap references so I drop it.
so i wanna learn jap
but i need an actual jap person to talk to, so i get better understanding you know.
how to find one? does anyone in japan wanna learn russian?
Post your own reasons why you wanted to learn Japanese.
>大黒屋光太夫
get a castaway.
huuuh???
One too many instances of "(571d ago)"
ステラのまほう
It seemed fun :)
Despite the flag I'm Russian and I have no idea how to do that myself, I'm too weeb for most Japanese people, it seems. Although I did find a guy on twitter who likes Russia so we reply to each other sometimes in moon (he doesn't speak Russian or English anyway). Considering just setting up a goddamn VPN to shitpost on 2ch (or is it 5ch now for some reason?)
If you're fine with normal people, you can google some websites for language exchange, there are a couple of them. Italki and others. There is also one pretty obscure but strangely functional Japanese-Russian one that I forgot, but maybe you'll stumble upon it.
I wanted to read and translate the Sora no Woto PSP VN, that got translated without me, but I ended up translating the Geijutsuka PSP VN instead to more or less fulfill the original purpose.
Other than that, basically just to play games with cute girls (preferably doing cute girls) when they don't have a translation.
Nice~
I'm confused on what the alphabetical order equivalent of the kana is. Any helpful links?
You don't need to know this.
Aight, thanks friend
I'm thankful for DJT and the people in it, and for the invaluable support I've received from this thread as a whole. Thank you all for posting here and learning with me, I doubt I could have stuck with it if I didn't have people to talk about it with.
感謝祭おめでとう、皆様!
how do i find this?
Top right next to sync button.
>Those cards that always cause you trouble
I could legit go 5 minutes between getting one wrong and seeing it again and still not being able to remember the way to write it in hira
(im fine with the meaning of the characters though so I have that going for me)
ah thanks
I'm going to say stay at 20 new cards a day. I also had lie 70% retention when I started, and probably even after I finished core 2k, but nowadays I usually get 85-90%. I think it's better just to push yourself with a steady 20 cards a day than to decrease the amount of new cards and regret it later. The main goal should be to build up a foundation of vocabulary, so you can start reading, and from there, remembering words and learning new words should be easier when you see them in actual contexts.
>私が阿良々木くんを殺すということは、つまり阿良々木くんの臨終の際、一番そばにいるのがこの私ということになるのよ? ロマンチックじゃない
japanese romantic
or you know what, when I think about it lot's of other romantic stuff does involve killing, getting killed or suicide or some other weird shit
俺も愛しているぞ
さてと、少年マンコを出して
It's doable. Hard (I do 2 repetitions a day, takes me an hour each), but doable.
DJTスレッドの番号は#1933です。
おい、空気をよめ!!!
"ぬ"ってダイナミックだと思う。書く時の筆の動きが
まず、左上から右下に向かって真っすぐに降下。
そのまま消えていったと見せかけて、突如右上に出現。
その後、同じように左下に降下していくのかと思わせておいて、
ギリギリで急上昇のアクロバット。
そして反り返るように右上に舞い戻り、更に反り返って急降下。
極めつけは、「この勢いならこのまま右下に消えるだろう…」という、
大方の予想を裏切り最後にまさかの一回転!
「オレのパクリじゃん」って高をくくって見てた"め"も
最後の最後でド肝抜かれたと思う。
ダイナミックだよね…"ぬ"。
ive been thinking of doing it twice a day.
do you find it better ?
I was greatly impressed with what I have seen of Japanese civility, humility, hygiene, and sense of beauty.
More practice is never a bad thing. Might cause a problem with the scheduling algorithm though - obviously I'm far more successful in the (evening) rep than in the morning, but I consider the morning rep 'canonical' and re-import it to my evening-reps device every so often.
>hygiene
I think this is a total meme though
what's so hygienic about the japanese, because they take off their shoes in the house? every other civilized conuntry does this as well
and finns for example are famous for saunas etc., I don't see how japanese are special in this regard
Which reading shall I adopt?
it's not a choice really, the kanji 技 on it's own is わざ
in combination with other kanji it's ぎ as in 技師 for example
How do I get a Misa gf?
her face looks weird, the area around the cheeks is too broad and the chin too pointed
>in combination
This dictionary uses katakana for on-yomi. Could it be a misprint in this particular article I wonder...
there's a ギ at the end of the page
yes it is a misprint
スレが死にそうです
救急バンプ
ばんぷ
いまいち"based"の使い方がわからないのですが
たとえばLemmy Kilmisterはbased guyですか?
...
>箱女(ぱんどら)
らいおんきんぐ is the best though
>山田犬郎
What's wrong with thi-
captcha: calle stop
Has anyone here used Genki or Minna no Nihongo for self-study? How was it for you?
>じゅりあん
>さとう さとう
personally I've used neither 2bh, but Genki seems to be rather popular here
I'm not sure if Minna no Nihongo is bad or not, but it gets comparatively few mentions
How is 時のオカリナ for immersion training for a week-old beginner?
Do I need a bunch of vocab, or would it be good to just jump right in and spend the time trying to understand it?
playing vidya instead of learning is the path to dekinai
The idea isn't so much as to actually play the game, but really attempt to read the text.
I keep being told "do what you like," and vidya is one of my motivating reasons for wanting to learn the language.
So I wouldn't really know a better way to try and push myself to read better.
>らいおんきんぐ
Am I having a stroke or did someone really name their kid "Lion King"?
You are not having a stroke.
well I'm really no expert, because I've never played a single game in japanese, but as far as I can tell and heard they aren't a resourceful way of learning whatsoever
Play whatever motivates you, but make sure to not advance the text until you fully understand what's going on grammatically in the passage.
yea it's hilarious
but serious question now, is it even possible to use 虎 for lion? seems to be only related to tiger
I've studied 200+ words on anki and 家 is the one I struggle on the most. It's such an easy one as well. like for whatever reason my brain just doesn't want to remember it I probably had to press again when the card popped up like 10 times today.
Time to write it down 100 times before it becomes a Leech of Shame
I guess you're not using RTK then
yeah it is possible.
>瞬(せつな)
>李
aside from meme names, some of them are really realistic stupid names that it's likely for brainless parents to come up with
I actually have the same problem with the same kanji.
It will be permanently engraved into your brain with a little reading even without Anki.
I can understand OoT fine. I think the grammar is easy, text2capture identifies it pretty well, since you already know the plot you should already have an idea of what the charcters are saying and if you don't understand something all you have to do is look up Ocarina of Time Longplay on Youtube and search the textbox you're having trouble reading. The translation is VERY accurate, what you read in Japanese matches very closely in English.
Some cool things I've noticed from what little I've played, Goron is the onomatopeia for a rock rolling, Darunia calls Link ボーズ and outright calls Ganondorf a thief.
Conversation exchange? I haven't tried it, but I plan on using it once I feel like I can even be slightly conversational. Otherwise I worry I'll just waste someone's time.
> kanji is so fucked up you can read 子子子子子子 as a full sentence
good language
en.wikipedia.org
Grass is sky, blue is green, what else is new?
Makes it clear then.
Kanji is unironically much easier to understand than Kana only text. But every time we try to explain this you think we're joking or something.
Is this ok? Or shall I write them in a different way? ね、れ、わ。
When you start studying Japanese, you first say "Hey, I can write anything with Hiragana and Katakana, why should I use Kanji?".
After you memorize Hiragana and Katakana, you realize Kanji is necessary. It seems like a lot of work but it makes wonders to your memory after a while and is aesthetic.
Looks fine to me, but your English is wrong. You want to say "Or should I write them in a different way?"
Kana only is easier
I only just got back into studying Japanese about a month or so ago, so I'm not really qualified to speak on it's merits, but I did use it because I already owned it from a previous abortive attempt when I was younger. I didn't do any of the exercises or anything, I basically just read the grammar explanations and copied the example sentences into Anki, and it seems like it covers reasonable enough ground for that method of learning from it. If I didn't already own Genki, and was starting from scratch I'd likely just do what I did with Genki using Tae Kim or something instead which seems more suited to doing this kind of thing anyway.
Yeah maybe if you're a brainlet
I forget
>shit on anki
>shill memrise
I've seen so many of these posts lately. I'm starting to wonder if it isn't some sort of advertising campaign.
ayy lmao ive been doing 50 just fine