Why are poor people nationalist?

Why are poor people nationalist?

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Are you a jew?

>country is poor
>Jews are not interested in poor countries
>in Judenfrei countries being nationalist is allowed

there

>franca

Because they’re allowed to be

if you think Poland is poor, then I seriously don't know what to tell you

Because they don't have foreigners shitting up the place and making you hate your own country.

>“The cheapest sort of pride is national pride; for if a man is proud of his own nation, it argues that he has no qualities of his own of which he can be proud; otherwise he would not have recourse to those which he shares with so many millions of his fellowmen. The man who is endowed with important personal qualities will be only too ready to see clearly in what respects his own nation falls short, since their failings will be constantly before his eyes. But every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud adopts, as a last resource, pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and glad to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority.”

because they need to believe in something bigger than themselve

Because they can't afford to not live with average niggers and muslims.

wow why are nords so dysfunctional?

America, the quote.

thanks for ppsting this, saved

perhaps because importing foreign poor people directly affects their job prospects and chance at a better life adversely?

>over 200 countries in da world
>Poland 20th richest country

people still think its poor here lol

Because poor countries aren't cucked like first world countries and people don't call you Nazi and shame you for having hope.

no welfare niggers to pity in their countries

Schopenhauer was GOAT, check out his writings mate

shhh, you are attracting the jews attention

Poor people know how hard life is. They know nothing is granted and nothiong is for free.
They can't just form themselves happy safe spaces like well of kids can. They often can't just take another job and have to deal with harsh imperfactions of some others.

I think that makes them more bond to the reality.

>While in Berlin, Schopenhauer was named as a defendant in a lawsuit initiated by a woman named Caroline Marquet. She asked for damages, alleging that Schopenhauer had pushed her. According to Schopenhauer's court testimony, she deliberately annoyed him by raising her voice while standing right outside his door. Marquet alleged that the philosopher had assaulted and battered her after she refused to leave his doorway. Her companion testified that she saw Marquet prostrate outside his apartment. Because Marquet won the lawsuit, Schopenhauer made payments to her for the next twenty years. When she died, he wrote on a copy of her death certificate, Obit anus, abit onus ("The old woman dies, the burden is lifted").

Because they have nothing to be proud of themselves so they look for anything that gives them some validity, in this case it's the nation where they're part of (which is something that wasn't their own doing but purely coincedental). If they can leech of the "greatness" of the nation they're born in they'll feel better about themselves

Fuck, so yeah basically that Schopenhauer quote

What else do poor people have other than nationalism?
Nothing.
West used to be nationalist.
But then wealth kicked in,
and after wealth followed consumerism,
money replaced God
and soon there was no place for nationalism so it was kicked out. Give us some time

It's just a cycle, tough times breed tough people, tough people make easy times, easy times breed weak people, and weak people make tough times. We're currently between the 1st and second stage. Tough times are behind us, now what we have is tough people trying to make it easier for themselves.

pretty bad comparison
you know it

Why are rich people suicidal?

WOMANLESSING

ITT:a frenchie dumbfuck at it's finest

Nationalism:

>is a political, social, and economic system characterized by promoting the interests of a particular nation, particularly with the aim of gaining and maintaining self-governance, or full sovereignty, over the group's homeland.

literally what ANY nation does

#thread

>implying the most talented people of this cunt weren't patriots
daily reminder that Schopenhauer was a pretentious, overrated hack

>implying you understood the quote

If you have nothing to be proud of, you start exalting groups you belong to so that you can have some of the prestige belonging to the greatest of those groups rub off on you in some way. Essentially, .

dunno, I'm a communist

Oh then please do enlighten me, brainboy
There's literally nothing wrong with national pride, it's basically the same thing as being proud of your family but on a larger scale.

Because being poor makes you closer to chaos. Nationalism is orderly, it's salvation from chaos that poverty brings. Poor people can't afford to be consumed by both chaos of poverty and chaos of nihilism.

this

Imagine 90s, working in poland
>shit job
>shit payment
>you work your ass off everyday
>so is everyone, no one is really rich, everyone working their asses off
>but every day it's getting a bit better, sometimes it's one step forward and 2 steps back but sometimes life is progressing
>you live like that for 10 years
>your life is still shit but you look back how you lived 10 years ago and you think "phew, i worked my ass off but it was worth it, it isn't as good as in the west but we improved by a lot"
>you work your ass of for the next 10 years
>you look back and damn, your city really changed, everyone is happier, meanwhile you made family, you have two daughters and a loving wife, you still work like a mule every day and life still isn't as good as in the west, but we are getting there, you can afford stuff that you could only dream off like 20 years ago, all your friends also have families and you see bright future
>for the next 7 years you see how eu is collapsing, how retarded gov of your neighbor inviting shitskins, you see how lazy spoiled lefty brats from the west want to destroy everything that you worked for the last 30 years, and want to ruin the country that you basically build from scratch, and want to ruin lives of your children.

>hurr why are poor slavs nationalistic and don't enjoy muhhamed's dick??

>are you a jew lol xDDDDD

Why are russians so fucking retarded?

such a poor quote that ive seen multiple times that must be taken out of context because theres zero chance that an educated person said this. Personal and National pride are not mutually exclusive

very good post

absolutely no, nationalism isn't something natural it was a result of urbanisation, growth in literacy and alienation from the original communities by peasants turned labourers and projection of tribal and familial ties onto the nation. The care for family and tribe is an instinctual reaction that is crucial for survival, the nation is too far removed from the individual to have this close link to survival, resulting in the individual doing downright stupid things for the nation's sake. You can be a patriot but you should still question what you do and your leaders who might just be leading you to an early grave for arbitrary reasons like some border change

>muh EU boogeyman
Stopped reading.

Leave the EU then I'm sure Russia will welcome you with open arms again

free to leave when ever you want

dont forget the eu funds

EU deal was a mistake, we will cancel it soon

What about them? Most of eu funds goes into agriculture and it's just little fraction of country's yearly budget.
It's just payment for letting foreign corporations into our market and changing our law to cater to them.

fuck the EU

So well-defended borders are a bad thing?

>Nationalist are RICH
>Nationalist are MIDDLE-CLASS
>Nationalist are POOR
Leftist have accused every economic class as being disproportionally nationalistic.

Honestly, as much as i hate russian animals, they are the lesser evil at this point. We survived under russians, they may break our economy but they couldn't break our spirit even at their peak. EU degenerates and mudslimes are bigger threat to our core values. I'd rather be poor then being mudslim or indoctrinated lefty.

Nationalist is always the poor because to become wealthy you have to sell your soul and realize money has no nationality

does my nationalism bother you so much scum sucking babylonian kike?


GOOD!!

DUDE
INDIVIDUALISM
LMAO

When someone is poor it means he's less free, he's more a slave to his circumstances, and most people are poor because they are weaker, less able, so poor people need to rely on each other, so they instinctively seek out communities and can't afford to hate on their potential allies. Poor people are either nationalistic or they are socialists, but without the altruistic element of western socialism, they are nationalists and socialists for their own sake, for the benefits of it.

The joke here before the mutt meme was that ironically those of us that had the most to be proud of (Anglos/Krauts)gave the least about muh heritage

There's a reason those "corrupt" politicians and "sellout" "globalist" CEOs/Corporations act the way they do. It isn't because they are inherently evil, they simply realized they could do much better than to represent or handfeed a deranged and "patriotic" public. The public is only good for a short-term when you're starting off as a company, but when you hit the big leagues you realize Cletus, Ahmed, Pedro, and Ivan are all the same, and all that matters is accumulating and securing your wealth for yourself/family. When one nation becomes to unstable or expensive to operate in, you simply transfer to another. Call me a corporate shill, but I completely understand their position.

krauts/anglo same shit and garbage as far as Im concerned

both should be exterminated for what theyve done to the Native Americans and their continent.

and both are.

KARA BOGA is coming for you, perfidious anglo..

[Social experiment]

Marcel?

contributing 2bh

Thx mane

Rural and suburban retards always cling to nationalism but in the long run the brown wave will pave over them whether they embrace it or not, city people will force them into the future one way or another.

This, but unironically.

Its not even about "pride", its about defending resources against outsiders. Everything is a strugge for resources.

I bet all reddit liberals are stroking their 2 inch weeners to this quote all weekend long.

What is this kara boga meme?

It sounds like "divine punishment" in some slav language but I reckon that's not it. Although it might make more sense that whatever its propagators have in mind.

"Black God" in turkish (yes, a slavic/iranian loanword)

>the nation is too far removed from the individual to have this close link to survival
No, it's not.
Let's say a Nazi tier group of extremists invades your cunt and intends to exterminate your whole nation. In such case protecting your country overlaps with protecting your family and friends.
>You can be a patriot but you should still question what you do and your leaders who might just be leading you to an early grave for arbitrary reasons like some border change.
I agree. But just because you question something doesn't mean you have to disagree with it.

You are aware that Russia has more muslims than the whole Western Europe put together, right? And it's like they're all neutered like our Tatars, they had plenty of terrorist attacks and other Chechen spergouts.

Sure but it doesn't always overlap, that's why I see nationalism as a movement that only has defensive use, it allowed nations to calesce during the industrial era which paved the way for the prosperity of these peoples, once it goes offensive it goes off the rails,I also think it has outlived mich of its use since the industrial era fir the developped world

>calesce
coalesce*

Black bull, not black god. In Polish it's God's Punishment. It is simply another name for ALLAH (Tengri) (PBUH)

>I see nationalism as a movement that only has defensive use, it allowed nations to calesce during the industrial era which paved the way for the prosperity of these peoples, once it goes offensive it goes off the rails
I fully agree.
>I also think it has outlived mich of its use since the industrial era fir the developped world
I disagree, it's still useful. It's just that nowadays one should express it with a wallet instead of a gun.

enlightening post
praise be to Ormuzd (Jesus) and Marzanna (Gaia) my Noenian brother

>In Polish it's God's Punishment.
Well not precisely.

God's punishment would be Kara Boska. (Boski/Boska being the adjective from Bóg - God) or Kara Boża (Boży/Boża meaning "belonging to God")

Kara Boga is more like "Punishment imposed at God" ie punishment in which God is on the receiving end of it. Doesn't make much sense though.

annoying Sup Forumsards

I don't think this applies to modern nationalism which is more of a fringe movement that is in practical terms against the country and society at large.
It may exhibit the same symptoms, but fundamentally modern nationalists are not proud of their countries, rather they are nostalgists.
I'm speaking about the west ofcource.

>in practical terms against the country and society at large
As opposed to what? The deracination created by globalism?
I don't see how you can say nationalism is fundamentally against the people.

It was something like ~18 mil in eu and ~11mil in russland in 2010, yeah? Also "had", da, exactly, like fifteen years ago.

Hello sephardim

More like Jassa (Jesus) and Marzanna (Mary)

>When one nation becomes to unstable or expensive to operate in, you simply transfer to another.
That's what a jew would do t b h

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you know too much

Because money makes your country into something to be sold. Poverty makes your country into something that must be earned.

Why aren't rich people nationalist? Don't they have more to defend?