/lang/ - Language Learning Thread

Please don't die edition
>Learning resources
First and foremost check the Sup Forums Wiki. Please contribute to the wiki as you learn a new language. Many pages need updates. Some pages are completely absent (Hungarian for example)

4chanint.wikia.com/wiki/The_Official_Sup Forums_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki

Check """pastebin.com/ACEmVqua"""; for plenty of language resources as well as some nice image guides.

/Lang/ is currently short on those image guides, so if you can pitch in to help create one for a given language, don't hesitate to do so!

Torrents with more resources than you'll ever need for 30 plus languages:
Google Drive folder with books for all kinds of languages:
drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9QDHej9UGAdcDhWVEllMzJBSEk# (Links to the other folders, apparently it was taken down from the original drive)

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=VxknYeAghtc
twitter.com/AnonBabble

How long has it been since you last studied, frens?

I studied a little today, before that it was probably sunday

Why are these threads dying so fast. I would expect more traffic in the new year.

Last night, about to study again after I take care of some errands though

Can you really even say you're learning a language if you don't study every day? At least do a little bit of vocab review if you don't have the time or energy for more intensive studying

no one learns langs anymore. no one even thinks about it. american cultural victory is all but assured, looks like

Has anyone of you tried Tandem? What are your experiences so far?

New years resolutions are a meme, if you tell yourself "alright starting in a week I'll actually do this thing" instead of just doing it immediately, it means you're just justifying procrastination and will probably drop it if you even start at all

I did admittedly pick a pretty shitty time because the Russians are sleeping and the rest of Europe will be soon as well

Spanish is going to be the language of our country in 50 years. I know English will still be the lingua franca but eventually will be replaced by God knows what language.

Christ Was meant for

This isn't true though. The children of Hispanic immigrants (legal or otherwise) learn English and oftentimes can barely speak their parents' language at all. By the third or fourth generation they might not even know Spanish or prefer conversing in English.

Kept up study every day for a whole week now. A rare feat. I hope to keep up the trend and finally learn a language!

Seems to be the opposite, English as a lingua franca only gets stronger every year, second gen immigrants here let alone third and on are usually fully fluent in English as a native speaker, and more and more countries are teaching English to kids every year from childhood

In my experience in the southwest there you will see at least an equal amount of Hispanics speaking Spanish as there are speaking english.
Also as the US becomes more nonwhite it isn't going to become more powerful and relevant on the world stage. Hence in the future I don't see why the world would want to speak English rather than Chinese or whatever other nation emerges as the most powerful

Stop going to Sup Forums user. It isn't supposed to be taken seriously, there's just memes.

are these two sentences both correct? Is there a difference between them?

Möchtest du mit mir kommen?
Möchtest du mit mir mitkommen?

the question I guess is valid in general for situations where a verb is separable and used together with an auxiliary one and the same preposition

Maybe it's the winter depression setting in for some people. Or the imbecilic CAPTCHA policy.

IF YOU'RE NOT STUDYING EVERY DAY, YOU'RE NOT STUDYING AT ALL!

Consistency > Quantity > Quality.

This is simply objectively true. Do you believe that the US is going to be stronger and more powerful in the future with more Mexicans and blacks?

They are both Anglos and to top one of them is American. They are not joking.

Any rusfags here, native or otherwise?

In this example sentence "Я yчý cтyдéнтoв pýccкoмy.", why does pyccкий in the dative decline to pyccкoмy? Is this a standard declension pattern for nouns ending in -ий or an irregular case? Or am I interpreting this wrong and the base word wasn't pyccкий to begin with? Struggling to find an explanation for this in my grammar book, it shows patterns for -eй and -oй but not -ий and the other patterns with that sound unnatural

Anyone interested in Latvian?
I really like it and am learning it the best I can, also I know a discord for it if you want anons

Bump with a food webm

Anyone else like to find what new knowledge and perspectives are gained when learning a new language? I study French, and I love being able to listen to French songs and read French articles and stories.

Every day.
No days off.
No excuses.

How hard is Italian to learn as a native English speaker who has never even attempted to learn another language before in their life?

>why does pyccкий in the dative decline to pyccкoмy?

Because it's an adjective, not a noun.

One of the easiest languages to learn

What is the difference between Ы and Й?

Too long ;-;

I'm thinking about learning German. It's probably the most useful language that I'd have any interest in learning.

As soon as I finish to move to my new apartment a want to learn korean.

2018 is the year for Japanese. I'm finally going in.

I learned Hiragana, Katakana and some very basic phrases and grammar, even a few Kanji. The thing that stopped me from going only Japanese mode is that I've been learning Russian too. But I need to focus on one language only, so I will Russian behind until I reach a solid basic Japanese level, hopefully, in December.

I haven't studied out of my book in a good while, but I keep up with Duolingo and reading simple news articles

Ah, makes sense, I was mistakenly thinking of it as a noun in the context of "the Russian language", should've known better, and I didn't immediately recognize it because I haven't studied adjective declension very hard yet, thanks user

I would say is pretty easy, you might struggle with pronunciation and grammar.

Can any germanbros explain what this means?

Dieter Wedel hat uns Gevalt angetan

is gevalt + angetan implying sexual assault or is it just a generalized violence/assault?

Direct translation is "he has done violence to us"

امروز، توی کلاس فارسی در دانشگاه

I'm getting behind on learning Spanish and I need to be decent at it soon so I can move to Panama.

Interesting, why?

I've decided to just wander the Earth for a while and hope for the best. I live in Malta right now, I'm just posting from my phone, which has a Swedish IP, so. That I don't have to explain this every time.

You should be ok in Panama, the main problem is that Spanish have a lot of regionalisms, even in a country. Try to consume Panamanian media, except for reggaeton, please don't kill your neurons.

"jemandem Gewalt antun" has no direct sexual connotation whatsoever.

Japanese, maybe Czech

That being said, sexual violence may be involved or implied. "Der Vater hat seiner Tocher Gewalt angetan" has a strong implication of sexual assault, but you can't be sure without the context. Maybe he just beat the shit out of her.

I haven't even really scratched the surface that much yet though, and I'm getting concerned that I'm gonna fuck up.

You will always fuck it up, Spanish speakers tend to make fun of someone's words. We play with words a lot. Don't be afraid, just laugh too when committing a mistake.

Are you stuck with something right now?

Ы

Ы sounds like a very short æ, while Й is a very short i. Still seems weird to me that they write ИЙ in some words.

I have a problem with procrastinating right now. And I feel like I won't understand Spanish well enough by the time I planned to go to Panama.

"Й" sounds like y in the word "guy"
"Ы" sounds kinda like a prolonged i in "grill"
Try to stretch that i out like this: griiiiiiiiill

thank you for your input . greatly appreciated

What are you currently learning? German is a good choice and it hasn't been to difficult to get the hang of. Unfortunately I've just hits wall in terms of motivation, but I vow to become more fluent this year.

Duolingo is good for German. Having a set daily goal and something keeping track of your progress really helps avoid dropping out of your studies and not being able to get back into it. True, Duolingo isn't really that deep, but it's deep enough to keep you familiar with the language.

>Unfortunately I've just hits wall in terms of motivation

Beweg deinen Arsch du fauler Sack, sonst geht's ab ins Gas mit dir.

Learning Modern Greek, doing a mix of Duolingo, Mango Connect, and a small book on Grammar.

Anyone have anything else they reccomend?

Also I will give CSGO skins, trading cards, and Hitman Resolution to any Gr**k that wants to help an Amerifat learn.

Deutschland pls

please use the lang pictures

...

...

...

...

...

...

...

Did some light studying for German the first time in like a week last night. I've been sick for the last little bit and wouldn't have retained anything ;_;
I want to study Italian concurrently but now that im back from Italy I feel like it risk/reward isnt worth it. I should just focus on German for now.

Also questions:
Does every native believe that their respective language is "really hard" or has "the worst grammar"?
When I was in Italy, Italians kept telling me how hard Italian grammar was and the only thing I could think was, it's really not. It's actually a really nice break from German. Italian grammar has so little bullshit involved (at least up to the point that i've learned).

and I know i've always felt the same about English (until recently, when a lot of people have been telling me that english grammar is actually pretty easy), and a lot of Swiss/German people tell me the same about German.

Stop giving meme advice, please.

>Does every native believe that their respective language is "really hard" or has "the worst grammar"?
Well, I don't know in other countries. But here people say that Spanish is very hard, mainly because it has plenty of synonyms (lol)

Wanted to thank my Brazilian & Japanese brothers in a previous thread days ago for helping me fact-check on a silly youtube video about BOPE.
I was hoping they drop by again because they were interested in watching it now that I'm finished

I am honestly on the verge of giving up on learning French. It's just too damn difficult.

I wanted to use them but i couldn't find them anywhere on 4chins and i didn't save any of them on my computer

This is gonna sound very amerimuttish but I've been thinking about practicing and rekindling my very limited spanish. The only problem is I cannot for the life of me ever hear it when it's spoke to me. Aside from that, I'm familiar with the conjugations, imperfect tenses, time, numbers, and some vocab.

>losing motivation to learn Catalan
Help

Bon courage ! Ne quittez pas la plus belle langue des grenouilles !

I will add that reflexives, direct object pronouns, indirect object pronouns, and the amount of verb conjugations are difficult.

I just got myself to the point where I don't have any difficulty reading any of this. But I still have a lot of difficulty producing much of it.

But I also just got a German to agree to do a language exchange with me so I'm stopping Spanish for now and starting German. If this falls through I'll be excited to jump back into Spanish since my vocabulary and reading comprehension skyrocketed the last few months.

How do I understand the "de la" part of this sentence:

"... et lui demande de le mettre dans son sac."

I can see that 'le' is a pronoun, but why is the 'de' in here? All it's doing is confusing me to literally translate as 'demand of it put in his bag' even though the obvious meaning is 'demand to put it in his bag'.

It's kind of like "He gives him the demand of putting it in his bag, where "de" is "of" and "le" is the article referring to the thing in question (that which is being put in the bag).

>And he made a demand of putting in his bag
That is if you translate "demande" as "make a demand". Othwerwise it doesn't make much sense

>mfw had a conversation on /Deutsch/ without someone telling me to go back to the middle east

I'm making progress

Where are you from?

Any frogs here? How do you feel when someone (a beginner) makes a genuine effort to speak french, yet butchers pronounciation or grammar?

I know for me when someone tries to speak Arabic but butchers it, it sounds cringey as hell and I try to switch to another common language. I feel bad about it since they’re trying, but still.. makes me uncomfortable.. thoughts?

I want to preface by saying my native language is English and I only speak German at a B1 Level, but I would guess the right Syntex would be
"Möchtest du mir mitkommen"
Because the preposition modifies the verb kommen and because it's in the infinitive, you don't separate the verb.

But I could be very, very wrong

Liverpool

Out of curiosity, why did you move to Austria?

The German language has always been interesting to me. As to why Austria and not Germany? No idea

Is this a good alphabet? (It's for my conlang :l)

It's a better choice than Switzerland :^)

Reminder that the wiki will stay useless as long as people aren't contributing

bump

youtube.com/watch?v=VxknYeAghtc

Anyone have any Punjabi resources

Why are you learning Catalan?

...

REEEEEEEIIIIIIINNNAAAAAAAAA

When do you have to go back to canada? Will you continue your German studies after you leave?

What are your experiences in learning more than 1 language at the same time? Do you find it effective, or do you prefer to concentrate in only 1 at a time?

learning German because i'll be travelling there in 12 weeks. Currently 61% on duomemeo but have only done 61 out of the 120 lessons.

I need to sit down and write out some rules such as suffix changes on verbs, etc.

I am switching between two. I will be going back to the 1st one very soon. It's been effective since I'm mostly practicing what I already know with the 2nd one, while learning the 1st one from nothing. So the transition is 'seamless'.

So are you saying demander always has to be followed by 'de'?

That's great user. Out of curiosity, what languages are you learning?