>Over the past few years, the mutants and Inhumans of the Marvel Universe have shared an interesting relationship. The X-Men were once Marvel’s flagship franchise, have recently focused on sorting out their own problems rather than taking center stage at world-changing events like Secret Wars. Meanwhile, the Inhumans, once a fascinating corner of the Marvel Universe, are now more populous and widespread than ever, thanks to Black Bolt’s Terrigen Bomb awakening latent Inhumans all over the globe. Now, the rival relationship between these two disparate, diverse Marvel groups has been literalized with the revelation that the Terrigen Mists don’t just give Inhumans powers — they’re also deadly to mutants. This October, Marvel will publish a four-issue miniseries, Death of X, that dives into this complicated relationship, and fills in some long-awaited questions about what happened in the eight months since the end of Secret Wars and Marvel’s “All-New, All-Different” reboot.
>“Right now things are not good for mutantkind,” says X-Men writer Jeff Lemire, who will co-write Death of X with Inhuman scribe Charles Soule. “On the flipside, Inhumans have been growing and becoming more prominent in the Marvel Universe. There’s a lot of tension between these characters about that, and also within the fandom.”
>Any mutant/ Inhuman conflict is, by its nature, larger in scope than a scuffle between two different groups of Avengers. Both groups are large, diverse, and encompass villains as well as heroes. And this problem, too, is nearly impossible: the Terrigen Mists are vital to one species’ survival and deadly to the other. The stakes couldn’t be higher in this apparently zero-sum game. Though leaders like Medusa will obviously have big roles in how things unfold, don’t expect a uniform reaction from either side.
>“For both sides of this, it doesn’t affect just a small group of them,” Soule says. “There are heroic Inhumans, but it also affects the bad guys and the psychotic ones just as much as it affects the nice love-and-happiness ones. It’s not just their livelihood and way of life but their very lives at stake, so they’re gonna react the way you think they would. Some people move to some kind of shared solution, but there’s a lot of superhero punching and blasting and stuff like that.”
>Most of Death of X takes place at the beginning of the post-Secret Wars eight-month gap, and as a result will answer some burning fan questions. Perhaps most notably: what happened to Cyclops? The controversial X-Men leader has been missing and presumed dead since the All-New All-Different launch. Death of X will finally fill in some of those blanks, in ways that will have major ramifications for the current-day storylines.
>“We’ll definitely see some characters who have been missing in action since the series launch,” Lemire says. “We’ll answer the question of where certain mutants have been, and what’s happened to them. Cyclops is the big one, he’s the one we’ve said was dead and that’s all we’ve really said. His death was very controversial, so obviously that’ll be a big part of the story we’re telling here.”
>To hear them tell it, Soule and Lemire are just as excited to reveal some of these long-burning mysteries as fans are to read them. But they’re still staying mum on important story details. For instance, what does the title Death of X mean? Does it refer to one specific death, or a more abstract “death” for the entire X-universe of mutants and X-Men? For that, you’ll just have to wait until October for the first two issues of Death of X (with the final two following in November).
>kuder left dc to draw mediocre x-men books >lemire left dc to write mediocre x-men books >soule left dc to write bad inhuman books how do they do it, it's not like their pay is any better from what I've seen
Samuel Hall
>Sorrentino left Green Arrow because of X-Men Marvel is more well known, DC is where most creators lay down their best work. Marvel is where they get recognized. Moon Knight isn't even half as great as Lemire's earlier work yet this will be what people will recognize him for. I already feel sorry for Soule, his DC Stuff were all solid but what everyone will know him for is a mediocre follow up to Waid's DD run and Shithumans.
Connor Cooper
>Kuder being wasted here I fucking hate Marlel and Berganza. Fuck you.
Connor Rogers
>Soule >Lemire Glad to have confirmation it's going to be shit.
Aiden Robinson
>Next step in evolution >Are constantly on the brink of extinction lol
Lucas Anderson
>the Terrigen Mists are vital to one species’ surviva Wut? >The inhumans still get children. >Have alien tech. >They need the mist to get super powers, but kill mutants in the process. Shitty writting is still shitty writting.
Jacob Bailey
.The X-Men were once Marvel’s flagship franchise, have recently focused on sorting out their own problems rather than taking center stage at world-changing events like Secret Wars >the Inhumans, once a fascinating corner of the Marvel Universe, are now more populous and widespread than ever, thanks to Black Bolt’s Terrigen Bomb awakening latent Inhumans all over the globe
I like we have to pretend this was natural. Interest just spiked up! Instead of the deliberate shafting of the X characters
The inhumans are interesting but from the titles I've seen its hard to give a shit about their major players nevermind the new ones. An absolute monarchy lording over people they purposely transformed seems pretty messed up
Mason Diaz
>what happened to Cyclops?
About fucking time. Still, its hard to get excited about it when you know its going to be shit anyway. I'm not happy about Marvel throwing away 50 years of character history away to make room for a teenager with as little backstory as possible.
Angel Peterson
I don't blame Tyke I blame marvel, kid has big shoes to fill.
Wyatt Evans
>Lemire writing more X-Men stories Who thought this was a good idea?
Anthony Scott
well RIP Cyclops
Aiden Garcia
Go fuck yourself Marvel.
Tyler Brooks
So, we get to find out how X-23 (and Daken and Sabertooth) went from being powerless, dead and/or dying to her being the All-New Wolverine? Awesome. That's all that interests me.
Oh dear, they are going to 'explain' Logan/Sabertooth/Laura were Inhumans all along, aren't they? After all, they can get rid of the X-Men, or at least minimize their presence, but getting rid of Wolverine would be a terrible financial decision.
Lincoln Ross
Rumor has it that he is going to be reveled to be alive in this series. I really hope that is the case
Jason Price
>We'll explore Marvel's Death of X-Men comics to push more Inhumans.
Nolan Clark
>the Terrigen Mists are vital to one species’ survival This... This is a dirty whore life. Inhumans could stop using it anytime they want. But let's face it, they're hell bent on genocide.
Carter Brown
good point. It looks like more like an alien bodysnatcher invasion. You get terrigenised BAM Now you are an inhuman and have to serve Medusa. Thats more unbelievable than X-Men showing up on your door, rambling about save home and trainig your power. Regarding mostly you have your mutant power sometime, are hated by people, while inhumans are discovered in a pod by inhumans and mostly most people dont want to kill you.
Jeremiah Sullivan
We have to boost the fuck out of sales for this do they know they fucked up. All their sales have been shit but it'll slap them in the face if they see a huge spike in sakes for this followed by their same crappy sales once it's over.
Noah Collins
More they intend to kill a species of only for superhuman powers
Cameron Allen
/thread Just wait and see, we'll have Cyclops organizing rape-trains on Inhuman orphans.
Michael Morris
The inhumans didnt lose anything in cyclops war,hell they are praised while the mutants are in literal hell.
Whatever Cyke did it didnt affect the inhumans at all
John Sullivan
That sounds inhumane
James Robinson
>Inhumans have been growing and becoming more prominent in the Marvel Universe. They're force feeding us Inhunans. Just like they're force feeding mutants the Terrigen Mist.
Joseph Peterson
Remember, Beast was right.
Daniel Bailey
...
Liam Hill
good one. kek
Charles Reyes
Dont know if they mean in universe. At least not in popularity.
Owen Johnson
Lots of variant covers too.
I guess this is Belasco?
Brody Jackson
They constitute this month's Marvel variant theme. They are not variant covers for the actual Death of X mini
Joseph Ross
Would be great if they brought him back to life just for an Inhuman to kill him again for max Marvel pettiness.
Leo Ramirez
>end of Death of X >its revealed that Cyke planned it all >he faked his death to be right from the shadows >he and Emma are underground boinking constantly
Kayden Wood
>underground >not Alaska
Ethan Reed
Bleeding Cool (I know, but it's not rumors shit) actually did an article recently about the differences between Marvel and DC exclusive contracts. This mainly applies only to artists.
With DC, even though you have a contract with them, they don't always have enough work for you. If a script is late, and you can't draw the pages since they don't exist, you don't get paid.
Marvel guarantees X amount of pages to draw every year; it's up to them to find work for you if scripts are late or something. The downside to this is covers don't count towards that total. They still get paid for them, but they learn when they think the contract's done they actually owe a few more pages, so might as well sign another exclusive contract. Then they're locked in again.
And both give you the standard healthcare and dental and all that.
Chase James
Would be great if Cyclops isnt dead but underground plotting against inhumans.
But Marvel likes to turn their posterboy of property they dont own for cinema. See Mr Fantastic getting replaced by richards from ultimate universum.
Andrew Lee
That's a little suggestive. That, or I've been reading too much Berserk recently. Probably both.
John Jenkins
>Would be great if Cyclops isnt dead but underground plotting against inhumans. No, it wouldn't. We all know his team would lose.
Aaron Moore
Beast threads are poison to everything right and good in the world.
Andrew Richardson
Are inhumans mutants or what?
Jace Brown
I can find the power inside me to believe this. No one can break up Scott and Well Written Better Jean.
Jayden Turner
>That's a little suggestive
Dude, Belasco has no interest in Illyana now that she's an adult.
Jeremiah Cooper
It's definitely a little weird given Marvel's recent shift in culture
Robert Green
Maybe he's underground plotting against Marvel editorial.
Brayden Richardson
No they're faggots.
Aiden Young
Mutates, not mutants. >Wade, I have crazy mission for you...
Ayden Clark
Looks at the placement of the tentacle around her neck. Big. Blue. Floppy. Tentacle.
Oliver Cooper
Its the perfect time for them to bring back the OP character that is Jean. So when they're about to lose Scott can be like, "oh fuck, its my giant space raptor god wife"
Andrew Smith
Sure, but since Marvel likes to "reform" bad guys in the future Cyclops may end in a thunderbolts book.
And with his damages he has he is a little bit more interesting than his boyscout attire. Even if this involved Marvel/fox shenigans and bad writing from Bendis.
Brody Reyes
I thought mutates were in the Savage Land?
Nathaniel Lee
Great, now I have to jack it to a demon sorceress and a Demon Hell King.
Camden Perez
they are special
Jackson Green
>Come with us user, you are an inhuman now >Eh no...I have my entire life here >You will be mistreated, humans will not understand >Fuckers you purposely changed me. I'm not thanking you. Go away
At least if I was a mutie I'd see myself as a natural thing
Xavier Young
Didn't Belasco die, like in the 80s? I thought he was in the perma-dead boat like Uncle Ben.
Oliver King
At least these gay ass mists could bring back powers to depowered mutants. *cough* Jubilee and Danny Moonstar *cough*
Isaac Russell
They don't need their powers back. All they need is to be in a well written book.
Jack Torres
>At least if I was a mutie I'd see myself as a natural thing
This at least the xmen didnt turn you into a mutant.
You could have just stayed a human if not for those assholes.
Adrian Jenkins
Can we bring her back and have Cyclops: Best Family Ever ongoing? >you get power by outside source >mutate Spider-Man, Hulk and Savage Land people are mutates.
Andrew Evans
This so much.
And regarding the time before the whole no more mutans/hope thing, you mostly lived some months with your power and frightened humans till X-Men arrived. And even now the people are more bigots towards mutants thaninhumns as far as i read.
Daniel Kelly
In other words, we refuse to ride good x-men comics...
Jordan Clark
You want another Callisto situation?
Christian Bailey
This was never in doubt
So was wolverine
Kevin Adams
>Can we bring her back and have Cyclops: Best Family Ever ongoing? Not Knowing that him and Emma are the best family. Cmon man.
Benjamin Lewis
I love the fact that since the movie was cancelled the Inhumans are going to be quietly put back to their corner sooner rather that later.
Meanwhile we will still have X-books front and center for years to come
Cameron Brooks
Where is the outrage? This is literally rape! REEEEEEEEEEE
Leo Ward
>84326675 lmao
Kayden Jackson
>Kuder And another one bites the dust
Connor Sullivan
I hate beast. Such a piece of shit race traitor.
Michael Rogers
>Cyclops: Best Family Ever ongoing? How does that involve Jean?
Dylan Reyes
Yeah but its gonna take years. Although it really helps that Inhumans is selling like shit. On the bright side, we might get a lot of time for some good character development. Well only if we get lucky.
Luis Martin
He gets stabbed in New X-Men, but the guy always comes back.
Robert Thompson
Time is weird in Limbo, you can be dead and alive at the same time. Belasco himself is the evil corrupted slave Nightcrawler who slew his master Belasco only to assume his form, forming a nice time loop.
Christopher Allen
>implying I don't want all of Summers girls in one book with Cyclops having dinosaur adventures in Savage Land
Gavin Russell
"lets fuck up the timeline forever and bring myself and my best friends forward in time for laughs, that will definitely show Scott for starting a black ops team. " Then he went and fought on Captain Americas Black Ops team.
Jordan Peterson
>wasting Kuder on this I hate Marvel so fucking much.
Thomas Lee
Ugh, Inferno confused me enough.... this is crazy. Damn it Magik, why do you have to be so well written yet convoluted.
Parker Lewis
So as long the Mutants are getting fucked for the next 5 or so years, maybe we can really focus on the neglected X-team. Please Marvel? just one 30 issue series. or 100 thats cool too.
Luis Walker
I would buy that every fucking week. Cable and Rachael can come too.
Jaxson Mitchell
It's more like..."Let's fuck up the space/time continuum and bring myself and my best friends forward in time for laughs. That will definitely show Scott for killing Xavier." Then he went and helped the Illuminati blow up planets.
Jace Richardson
This user has class.
Nathaniel Bennett
Oh sure, but Lemire's writing it, and 65% of the issues will be tie-ins.
Ryan Cruz
>Soule boy, it's going to suck
Landon Watson
Inhumans don't need mists to survive.
Matthew Smith
And the whole "We don't have direct movie rights to the mutants" thing that clearly has no bearing to them being put in a corner during all the big flagship events.
Luke Adams
>Marvel killing off X-Men and mutants to spite Fox >using Inhumans to do it
just kill me my senpaitachi, I don't want to live on this planet anymore
Jason Gray
Once flagship, still a flagship, judging from the sales alone
Brandon Baker
Inhumans are a Kree war project going back a few thousand years. Kree took some pre-mutants that showed genetic potential for being super-soldier combatants and experimented on them, using Terrigen Mists to finalize the process. The Inhumans rebel/are abandoned, are way farther along with a glimpse of future technology than the rest of the humans and make a splinter society on the moon. They continue a selective breeding program to try and maximize their powers in children without bad mutations, and they end up with a caste system(they have genetic dropout retards do slave labor, and this is a major plot point to some stories).
Robert Miller
Let's chase the inclusivity crowd is not taking a stand on moral grounds it's marketing.
Ryan Edwards
they are alien mutants. it's canon. they use terrigent mists to unlock x-gene
Brody Sullivan
>Wade, I have crazy mission for you... Wouldn't be enough without Squirrel Girl.
Blake Perry
Yep. It's not even taut; it's just laying there caressing her.
Jacob Roberts
>have recently focused on sorting out their own problems rather than taking center stage at world-changing events like Secret Wars Can someone remind me how many there were x-men tie-ins for Secret Wars, not counting books like Siege, or Red Skull?
Kayden Gray
didnt we have a leak some time ago about whats gonna happen?
>Both Cyclops and Inhumans discover about the mterrigen mysts, and want to keep it on the down low and work together to fix it >Rogue wants to go public about it >Cylops steps ahead and does the right thing it first so he takes all the blame instead >Some mutants take it very bad and attack inhumans >Storm X-men try to stop them, end up fighting scott >Jean tries to shut his head down, but ends up finding the Void fragment in his head and gets rekt
Jayden Gutierrez
>using Terrigen Mists to finalize the process Actually the Inhumans created the mist
>make a splinter society on the moon Attilan started out on earth and stayed that way until the pollution thing.
>They continue a selective breeding program to try and maximize their powers Not since the genetic council got disbanded
>they have genetic dropout retards do slave labor, and this is a major plot point to some stories Nope, they created the Alphas themselves, they aren't Inhumans.
Nope, Terrigen flip flops between two things. Either being a thing that mutates all that it touches, and being something that mutates Inhumans specifically. Considering its effects on the X-gene nowadays, I can safely say it isn't unlocking that.
Luis Morales
yeah, wasn't that stuff Remender originally had planned?
Chase Long
And Lemire who admits that he can't write team books
This is a trainwreck
Jason Wilson
That was planet X, before Rick got kicked off.
Dominic Baker
>void fragment
Ah, glad someone remembered like eight years later
Jeremiah Mitchell
according to this leak we will get to see PIXIE slice the throats of Inhuman kids, but she was really mind controlled by Quentin Quire.
Jordan Stewart
you are a casual, pic related Inhumans are altered humans, who use Terrigen Mists to unlock x-gene.