Does anyone else feel that Steven Universe is kinda overrated. It's not an awful show but it tries to do a lot and ends up not doing it well. I just binged watch this show up until (what I think) is the most recent episode where they play baseball. It flip flops between being a drama, comedy, SoL and action show without doing any of it particularly well. The non-musical number songs are excellent though. Also what kind of bugs me is how quickly plots are resolved. Malachite was built up for a whole season and then just was defeated in a few minutes, same with the cluster. This show would benefit from being 22 minutes instead of 11 too, but I don't think the staff, who are all pretty much newbies, could handle that.
What are your thoughts on this show?
Mason Walker
It's alright.
Liam Young
It's a shit show. Liking it is a meme.
Jason White
No.
Eli Cox
NO ,OUT OF 7 BILLION+ PEOPLE YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS LIKE THAT. YOU ARE THE ABOMINABLY PERSON OUT OF TRILLIONS OF PEOPLE, YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE OF HAVE UNIQUE THOUGHTS.
Cooper Mitchell
>What are your thoughts on this show? I enjoy it very much and I'm really excited for Summer of Steven.
Zachary Thomas
eh, i think its ok. With how little good cartoons there are right now, its understandable that it gets the praise it does. I can't name 10 cartoons airing right now that are worth watching.
Jayden Robinson
Stop shilling.
Carter Rogers
Honestly, drop the show and watch an anime. It's very apparent how this show is going to keep playing out now and people who say it's gonna be different are just delusional.
Wyatt James
It's not as overrated as Rick & Morty.
Carter Myers
Not really. Waaay more people wank SU over R&M.
Eli Sullivan
>Loud House >Harvey Beaks >Uncle Grandpa >Star Vs >Gumball >We Bare Bears >Clarence >Miraculous Ladybug >Wander Over Yonder >Gravity Falls All better than SU.
Grayson Collins
Yeah, I dropped it after the first season.
I don't care about the lore Steven's annoying The girls aren't hot and no amount of waifuposting will change that The plot is paper thin And the action is lame
Lucas Thompson
That's right, Summer of Steven, starting July 18th. An episode every weekday! That is starting ten (10) days from now, and will air the remaining episodes from Season 3 (three).
I have a lot of excitement for it. The enthusiasm is very riveting. It's very good.
Mason Wilson
I find it to be an entertaining show. Overrated might be a bit strong, though i would say it's not the most original thing ever especially if one takes into account anime which the show is heavily influenced by.
I don't think changing the time thing is gonna help or hurt anything, also everyone on this show is veterans.
Benjamin Watson
Fucking this. They've become as delusional as AT fags.
Austin Cook
>>Gravity Falls >airing right now
Isn't Wander ending very soon too?
Kayden Wright
>UG and Clarence
GO FUCK YOURSELF, COW!!
Colton Peterson
>The girls aren't hot and no amount of waifuposting will change that You must be a blast in the TLH threads.
Jayden Richardson
Not being able to realize not every thing is literal is a sign of autism.
Parker Gutierrez
>All better than SU. They're alright, but they don't quite stack up.
Connor Hughes
Literally no one likes SU. I wouldn't be surprised if it got cancelled.
Alexander Walker
So what did you watch it for in the first place?
Angel Long
>Malachite was built up for a whole season and then just was defeated in a few minutes Not really. Malachite showed up/was mentioned, like, once after her debut, and the fight itself was neat enough. >same with the cluster. I agree that it felt kind of anticlimatic, but let's be real, that's mostly down to hiatuses.
Camden Ross
>It's very apparent how this show is going to keep playing out now and people who say it's gonna be different are just delusional. What are you talking about?
Lincoln Gutierrez
>that's mostly down to hiatuses.
I didn't experience the haituses though. I just watched the whole thing this week.
Ryder Allen
They beat SU in terms of quality, animation, writing and just about anything else a cartoon needs.
Thomas Turner
>Uncle Grandpa Fuck outta here.
Gabriel Long
Hiatuses are just an excuse SU fags use when someone criticizes their show.
Angel Long
I don't watch that either, but I caught an episode. Seems meh. The girls in that show are also literally one note. Because >I thought the lore would be interesting >I thought there would be more fighting and more exploration to worlds in the Gem system >I thought Steven would grow to be less annoying and more useful But the thing that really killed the show for me is how melodramatic it is.
Chase Murphy
>not liking UG >not liking Clarence It's like SU fans enjoy eating shit.
Caleb Sanchez
>that's mostly down to hiatuses. It's really not, though. I could see it MAYBE being down to the short length of episodes, but then I'm also more inclined to put it down to they couldn't come up with a better conflict.
Carson Brooks
Star vs. is way worse than SU. I honestly don't get how anyone can sit through that ADHD shit.
Leo Gomez
I like Clarence, Uncle Grandpa is fucking annoying.
Jackson Smith
>getting excited for Summer of Steven >it shows Greg in a tux and a ponytail Fucking dropped. I hope you all enjoy the taste of shit.
Camden Edwards
Whoa, stop yourself. Run a check.
Ryan Lopez
>>I thought Steven would grow to be less annoying and more useful Did you skip episodes or something? That's exactly what happens.
Bentley Morgan
>>I thought there would be more fighting and more exploration to worlds in the Gem system When did the show ever advertise itself as an action show where they explore the cosmos?
Liam Evans
>>I thought the lore would be interesting What did you find uninteresting about the lore.
Elijah Adams
With a name like Steven Universe I wouldn't blame people for thinking that.
Lincoln Mitchell
Star is way better than "WAAAAAAAH! We cry every five minutes when our milk spills!"
Wyatt King
>>it shows Greg in a tux and a ponytail Okay I may just not be autistic enough for Sup Forums anymore, but why the fuck is that a problem?
Adam Butler
>With a name like Steven Universe What can you glean from a name like that?
Julian Nguyen
He probably has a beach bum fetish and is offended they're ruining her perfect pure waifu.
Jaxson White
Type "Greg in a tux" on desu storage for real autism.
Nathan Campbell
A kid name Steven who travels the universe.
Carter Reyes
It's an enjoyable show with an interesting setting and entertaining character dynamics. It's not the second coming or anything, but I like it.
Also that BGM.
Lucas Bennett
>The gems are all warriors >they've been in wars >They've got weapons and powers >They fight monsters that come to Beach City >they travel to different lands/worlds/places to get magical items And they sideline all that cool shit for romance slice of life swarbage. I was baited. I dunno. Like I said, I stopped watching around the time they fought Peridot and the orange dyke, more or less. There was talk of a cluster, dead moms, lying for sex and yellow diamond. I don't know.
Ryder Fisher
That's like saying Fullmetal Alchemist is a show about an alchemist who listens to metal.
Noah Nguyen
>And they sideline all that cool shit for romance slice of life swarbage. I was baited. >the show has only been advertised by everyone as an SoL show with some drama and action. You weren't baited, you're just mad they didn't pander to you.
Jackson Adams
Steven Universe does a good job of building interest over a long period of time because it accomplishes lore and world building incrementally over the course of all it's episodes. On a weekly airing show, this was an excellent move, each new episode contained some nugget of mystery that would maintain interest until the next week. Even though Steven Universe is primarily an episodic comedy this format gives it more of the narrative interest of a serial even if the development in a given episode was cryptic or metacommentative.
Keeping this in mind Steven Universe is probably a bad show to binge watch. A crumb of lore designed to stoke the interest of a fandom over the course of a week might not seem like good payoff when the real secrets get revealed after another 30 minutes of watching.
In many ways the CN's bomb format has failed Steven Universe in ways that it wouldn't have something like Adventure Time. The episodes are held in stark relief with each other and the attempts at experimentation appear stranger and the paced worldbuilding appears more deliberately vague.
Isaiah James
But Fullmetal Alchemist is about a Alchemist who has a Fullmetal arm
Jeremiah Thomas
>>The gems are all warriors >>they've been in wars >>They've got weapons and powers >>They fight monsters that come to Beach City >>they travel to different lands/worlds/places to get magical items But advertisement wise, it always focused on Steven and the SoL aspect, with the drama getting a spotlight during In Too Deep. It never pulled a Tenchi Muyo.
Leo Mitchell
But his brother is literally a suit of metal armor, so shouldn't he be the FMA?
Camden Hall
I like the show, but it's been a long time since we've had show with lore and an overarching plot, so it's only natural that people started latching onto it, for better or worse.
Also, Peridot is cute.
Jayden Moore
That's actually brought up in the series
Hudson Flores
>but it's been a long time since we've had show with lore and an overarching plot
Gravity falls?
Connor Moore
Steven Universe has both superior lore and plot.
Easton Sanchez
anything remotely good in this generation is overrated.
Especially on this board.
Samuel Thompson
They actually often mistakenly call the other brother the Fullmetal Alchemist.
Angel Robinson
Don't forget the hiatuses after each bomb where we take every tiny hint for the next crop of episodes, and maybe some things that weren't even meant to be hints, and continuously dissect them and overhype ourselves, until when the payoff finally comes it will probably be underwhelming no matter what it is. And any question left unanswered at the end of a bomb leaves us feeling frustrated and cheated as we have to wait and see if it will maybe be picked up in the next one.
Waiting a week for a new episode is reasonable. Waiting half a year in between a week's worth of episodes is annoying as hell.
Robert Harris
>outing yourself as a max pleb
Nathaniel Walker
Gravity Falls was similarly popular and praised by critics.
Until the end. Which wasn't SO bad but was a letdown.
Isaac Mitchell
The finale soured GF for Sup Forums.
Leo Wilson
I know I picked up SU after GF ended. I still don't think it's as good but at least there are new eps coming out.
Hudson Cruz
Guys, I've got some bad news. I'm Steven
Noah Edwards
You're a meme.
Blake Brown
Fucking this. Greg is my unwashed husbando, why are they turning him into some dapper asshole? Give me back my smelly husbando.
Dylan Miller
>Overrated. Compared to what exactly? Teen Titans Go or Power Puff Girls?
Anthony Evans
There's way better shows compared to SU. TTG and PPG aren't even that bad.
Carson Adams
I am sure by the end of the episode Greg's life will return to its status quo.
Wyatt Peterson
Consider this. You're right. However, the children watching this that are discovering they are soft little faggots, theyLOVE this show.
In seriousness, for young people I imagine this is the first time they've seen anything like this show. To them, it is a God tier cartoon. And that's acceptable too.
Sebastian Nelson
Do they have the same theorycrafting potential as Steven Universe? If no, I'm not interested.
Nathaniel Sullivan
Because when SU maintains status quo it's alright, but when AT does it it's a crime.
Jonathan Martin
Why does a cartoon need "theory crafting potential"? Can't a cartoon be a cartoon?
Jacob Stewart
You can't say that for sure user. Greg is supposedly Sugar's favorite and this is her favorite episode.
Sebastian Phillips
Because I personally find theorycrafting to be the best part about Steven Universe, to be honest.
Jason Butler
It's inconsistent storytelling. Why are you making the Homer Simpson style slob into some extra from a Seth McFarlane number?
Plus, Greg and Steven can't hold an episode on their own.
Matthew Hernandez
It's completely overrated, but it's still one of the best shows on right now.
Leo Martinez
That's retarded. Who watches a cartoon for theories?
Parker Price
That's not Gumball, Clarence, Star Vs or TLH.
Asher Thompson
Since SU has failed me on many different levels and since the Crewniverse won't give me back the time I wasted, I'm doing it my way with Steven Universe: Rebirth.
Unlike the show it's based on, Rebirth will be more plot driven, more action packed, more grounded and best of all, filler free.
Landon Baker
Theories is not the main reason why I watch Steven Universe, but it is those theories that keep me interested in it.
Isaac Fisher
I don't like SU maintaining status quo in most instances. For example if Lapis and Peridot never leave the barn I'll be pissed. But I don't think making Greg a singing, tap dancing billionaire for the rest of the show sounds like a good idea and I really doubt it'll happen.
Hudson Sanders
>Star Vs >Gumball >We Bare Bears >Clarence >Gravity Falls literally all the same tumblr art style
>Loud House >Wander Over Yonder same but less common 90's Nick cartoon art style
Benjamin Martinez
Homer has been in plenty of showtuney musical numbers in the past and implying that Seth McFarlane invented them is a crime.
Ian Foster
Steven Universe.
Nathaniel Flores
>TLH
Please stop
Henry Sullivan
>But I don't think making Greg a singing, tap dancing billionaire for the rest of the show sounds like a good idea and I really doubt it'll happen. Honestly, it's better than what their doing with the character now and they're obviously running low on ideas.
Blake Peterson
>same but less common 90's Nick cartoon art style
literal moron
Ethan Wilson
Wasn't the plot of SU planned way in advance? How can they run out of ideas?
Anthony Bailey
Overrated is the most worthless description you can use. Everything is overrated by people. Everything is also underrated. Rate the show, don't make threads rating people ratings.
Ethan Flores
>it's another "Sup Forums hates SU" episode I thought Sup Forums the anime would be better.
Thomas Williams
Easily. One way might be that they have all of the big season finale type plot points decided but are having trouble padding the seasons with filler between them.
Alexander Howard
Steven Universe was a Trojan horse. It was pitched as an action series with a soft and sentimental quirky side, but really was just a progressive slice of life series with rock lesbians.
Sebastian Reed
>>Wander Over Yonder >>Gravity Falls That are airing right now
Ayden Brown
>nuPPG
yeah no it's the worst thing on now
Mason Richardson
Steven Universe is a pretty damn good cartoon, but the glacial pacing hurts the narrative. It does explore a lot of very deep and mature themes for a kids show, but it pulls its punches when it comes to actually showing conflict.
Plus the fact that its "progressive" themes are so controversial can cause some people to hate it on a conceptual level even if they haven't actually watched it.
I'm all for a wider variety of female characters in cartoons, but even I'm getting tired of literally all the gems being female. (Fucking bismuth jfc)
Christopher Adams
>explore a lot of very deep and mature themes for a kids show
?
Levi Martinez
It was never pitched as an action show; it always presented itself as a SoL show with a dramatic side. Or did you forget who made this show?