Working a job is for slaves, NEET master race here

>Working a job is for slaves, NEET master race here
>"Basic income and genera AI will come anyday now mom! I won't need a job when it does!"

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>I'm severely mentally ill and have almost no money at all but neet master race

But what's the point in me working? I don't need the money, and the government would just take the majority and give to abdullah and sarah anyway
i get no pleasure or pride out of working so it's a lose lose scenario where i just hoard a tiny amount of money for nothing in exchange for spending 10-12 hours a day slaving away for some other peoples benefit

>I dont need money to enjoy my life, I am content spending all day on Sup Forums for 60 years
>All my taxes go to "Abdul", all 100%

I'm not sure bout you guys but I've honestly just worked for the experience and the knowledge behind it. And to add, almost 90% of my money I spent on my family to pay their debt or help them with foodstuff.

People say it's not healthy and I agree on that but really, I've nothing else to spend on.

I do not need a job actually
anyway I work to give my life a sense or worth, I know people in my office, I go out with them
I was a NEET for about a year and a half and it pretty sucked, I was drunk and dope all the time, I even started to gain weight.

S-slave!

Working -> investing -> hitting financial Independence is the elder god tier way of being a neet.
>reliant on nobody
>can be a home owner/car owner
>lots of money to spare
>still have everyone's respect
>can more easily get a gf/bf and eventually have kids

It's true...

Well I am maybe a slave of my own family business
I'll take it
enjoy being a pariah leaf

What I never understood about the premis of "basic" income (I quite like the general idea) is who is going to pay for it?

I mean surely most of us if given the choice between slaving your soul away and give away half vs scaling down your lifestyle and pursue the small things that make you happy would pick the latter option.
Not trying to stir a shit storm, can a westerner (since it's the west that's more likely to introduce the concept) explain how it's supposed to work.

Leftism is truly a cancer of human race.

It's being tried here. This page explains how it works, the goals etc
ontario.ca/page/ontario-basic-income-pilot

Most work is done by machines -> you pay taxes for your robots, if you don't employ people. And some experiments in Canada have shown that people become more active in the work force if they have enough money to not worry about it (I guess because they are not suicidal all day because they have no money, and are more willing to try new stuff because failure doesn't mean financial ruin)

It just provides an overview of a program and whos elligible to get it.
Not actually what funds it.

>Most work is done by machines -> you pay taxes for your robots, if you don't employ people.
That's something I can understand. But machines are already expensive. Why not move your manufacturing to a place where you don't have to pay taxes on robots? Not necessarily china but say if Germany introduced taxes on robots most of your companies would pack their shit and move to Poland which will get a fair social programs 100 years after western europe leaves the earth to another planet.

>. And some experiments in Canada have shown that people become more active in the work force if they have enough money to not worry about it (I guess because they are not suicidal all day because they have no money, and are more willing to try new stuff because failure doesn't mean financial ruin)
I do not doubt that and I'm quite supportive of the idea. It just seems like something that will greatly benefit those who prefer to stay unemployed and be extremely punitive to those who actually generate profit.

You can't be a NEET if you
a) have parents that refuse to pay for you
b) don't have a shit ton of money invested into something so that you could live off the %

It's easy to figure out that NEETing is either for underage students or near-millionaires. Since you read about it on Sup Forums the most, it suggests that it mainly comes from the underage audience.

Prove me wrong. You can't.

Same taxes that pay other welfare.

No it hasn't, at least not yet. The pilot program started November 2017 in ontario.

There was an older project in the eighties, I think.

Thats the big problem with that idea. Would have to be either worldwide, or you make your country attractive for buisiness another way. Universal income would mean, that you could pay your employers far less than normal, for example, as having a job does not negate the universal income.

It's mostly larping obviously. "NEETbux" either has strict requirements or pays fuckall in the vast majority of the world. And parents generally make a NEET's life hell, with the regular threat of kicking him out which will render him dead in the streets.

4 months of NEETdom were literally the best time in my life. Wake up anytime you want, spend your whole day playing video games or watching cartoons, completely up to you, no obligations and responsibilites. Now it's just wagecucking away all the time that could've been spent on all my autistic hobbies.

What are your reasons to live then

>playing video games or watching cartoons
Unironically this

Yeah and eventually that gets boring, there's a reason NEETs of 5+ years eventually kill themselves or get a job.

this
But at least with wagecuck i can buy booze

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Job hasn't even begun to be interesting lmao
All I can think of when I'm working is how I'd rather play pubg right now

>Read through this board dedicated to being a neet
>Literally every single one is suicidal
uboachan.net/n/5.html

But seriously what happens to neets longterm, what does a 30-40 year old NEET look like? A corpse or a new McDonalds worker?

Yeah having your personal monies to spend is nice
I just wish it wouldn't take litarally half of your day to earn it

t. buttmad wagecuck

Damn how will wagies recover

hes some self hating canadian neet who projects his hatred for himself at neets
hes always here

I am at work and this is literally my first time discussing the topic of neets here in at least a year. I brought up actual points why do neets ignore them

Considering the rich hide their money in off-shore accounts and this probably isn't going to change anytime soon because politicians use tax loopholes themselves, the middle class is going to pay for it.

Do you actually have a good reason yourself?

>I brought up actual points why do neets ignore them
Because their fate is literally too grim to give any serious consideration. They know they will probably end up necking themselves but aren't sure when.

>"I require proofs"
>Okay here's a board dedicated to being a neet, if you read through the threads of veteran neets their lives sound beyond miserable. Also it seems unsustainable longterm, thoughts?
>"Shut the fuck up wagecuck! Cuck! Cuck! KEK!"

Ah yes the neet spends his days refining his mind with the works of French philosophers.

Shut up slave

UBI will just stregthen capitalism, that's why real socialists fight for universal job guarantee and reduction in work hours.

jacobinmag.com/2017/12/universal-basic-income-inequality-work

When the AI comes, most countries will adapt basic income though some may go for fully automated luxury communism

Fuck off you ancomm runt get a job

I piss you in your mount, wageslave.

Actually your mom and dad are the wageslaves that support your lifestyle

Lmao

>government would just take the majority and give to abdullah and sarah anyway
>so i'll be a parasite too
go kys

Me not working is another job for someone else so I'm helping other people.
Me not working is helping to drive down the current capitalist system so I'm helping other people.

How will the contemptible NEET survive in a communist meritocracy?

Based Canadanon. NEETs BTFO

Shut up wagecuck you'll be the first to go on the day of the rope

Fully automated luxury communism when the AI comes

You'd better hope our inevitable AI overlord looks kindly upon shiftless, miserable half-wits who can't be bothered to contribute to society in any meaningful way.

So you want to die alone?

Fuck off normie we'll program the AI to kill you normies

Are you under the impression that it won't be ultra-normie businessmen and trillionaires like Jeff Bezos and Mork Zuckerborg programming the robots?

Shut up fucking slave

NEET for life here, closing in on 40.

I've had a few jobs, never worked out. Only get depressed doing things over and over, day in and day out.. The increased monetary profit meant nothing when all I did everyday was work and sleep.
People don't interest me, career's don't either.
Never really seen the point.
People talk about contributing to society but there's 7 billion people on earth, society will go on without me.

Do I feel shame for using the welfare system? No.
Do I feel shame for not following the ideals of the society I live in?
No.

My life is what it is. Society has granted me a way of living that doesn't require a job. I didn't ask for it, I was given it with the advice of several doctors.
I have no illusions about what I am or why.

So what do you do all day? And why have the doctors suggested this?

>So what do you do all day?
Now in winter I paint, play the guitar, ice fish and I love to cook. And read, hike, cycle etc.
In summer I fish, hunt, camp, take lots of pictures, float around in my rowboat and drink beer, travel around Sweden.
>And why have the doctors suggested this?
Because I did have some jobs, 4 to be exact.
The last one being at Samhall which is for disabled people/mental illness.
Nothing worked out, I got depressed and sick.
My boss sent me to a doctor and I was given several diagnoses ranging from depression to OCD and social phobia.
Got sick leave for 6 months, realized after that that nothing had changed and my doctor recommended prolonged leave.
That turned into permanent health induced retirement. I go to a meeting every three years to do a check up.

If this is true you've hit the fucking jackpot. I'm assuming you must be limited to living pretty frugally though.

I get 10 458 swedish Kr every month, my rent is 3400 kr per month, the rest I live on.
It's not frugal to me but compared to other people I guess it is.
I don't need fancy stuff, even my computer is 7 years old. I used an old button cellphone until last year.

Don't you have disability benefits in Canada?

Patetiskt

It's probably true. He could literally be my neighbor but that dude is like 50. Doesn't have a job, leaves every morning with his fishing gear, comes home every evening with a bag from the liquor store, drinks his beer on the balcony next to mine. Even when it's fucking snowing..

People like that are everywhere in Sweden. They were the majority of leeches before we got flooded with Muhameds

>10 458 swedish Kr
>1618.11 CAD
I could absolutely live comfortably off that.
I'm not going to get 1600 a month for my depression and anxiety like this lucky motherfucker.

What do you mean? I will die alone anyway, wether i work or not

>I'm not going to get 1600 a month for my depression and anxiety like this lucky motherfucker.

How much can you expect to get?

Govt website tells me between 500 and 1200, but I've never heard of anyone here getting full disability for depression.

Why don't you try and get official diagnosis and at least some of that money? What do you have to lose?

So you have a ton of mental illnesses? I don't envy you my dude I honestly rather just work.

I'm fine when I'm not forced outside my comfort zone. Sounds stupid but that's the truth.

>What do you have to lose?
The pride my parents still have in me which is coincidentally my main reason to continue living.

Ofc I don't know your situation, but from what you said it seems you have an unhealthy relationship with your parents if "pride" is more important than you having adequate help and treatment.

>SEK 10458
>CHF 1253.50
damn we have kids that earn more. with this amount of money, fishing and hunting wouldn't be a hobby, it would be necessary to survive

You're saying that you couldn't empathize with someone being disappointed that their child has decided to drop out of society and live off govt disability? I realize that some people have no choice, but that doesn't make it any less unfortunate.

I would if i could, i'd grow an even bigger vegetable garden than the one i got now and go fishing every day. Maybe even have a bunch of chickens but you gotta be careful with them cause of all the diseases they can catch.

Well it's not like you choose to be depressed. The govt gibs is exactly for stuff like this and not for people like who are just lazy fucks. Russianon is right, I guess.

I am not sure what do you mean by "disappointment". I would be sad, but i certainly would not judge my child if he had genuine depression, and would offer him my full support.

You don't need to convince me that depression is a legitimate illness and the people who have it deserve help. I would however feel like a bit of a fuck up if I decided to live off disability though.

>I would however feel like a bit of a fuck up if I decided to live off disability though.

Can't you use it as a supplemental income while working part-time/from home?

I have no idea. Even if I could have that arrangement I'm not really sure how that would help me. Life is a fucking nightmare and having a few extra hours to myself everyday is not going to help.

> Life is a fucking nightmare and having a few extra hours to myself everyday is not going to help.

What's so nightmarish about your life? Do you take antidepressants? Have you tried therapy?

>mental illnesses
meme diagnoses hardly constitute as genuine mental illness