>MoS/BvS >subverting comic's expectations >characters are human and deeply flawed instead of cartoon cutouts >villains' motivations are based around their own moral and psychological hangups >battles cost lives, feel huge, superbeings actually feel super >shot in a cinematic style by talented visionary directors with actual credentials >almost universally shit on by fanboys
>WW >shot in a bland imitation of Snyder's visual style by a woman who's only ever done TV and a terrible faux-feminism horror movie >action is complete shit, cut like a Russo joint, without any stakes or impact >every character is a cartoon charicature, ranging from thieves with hearts of gold side characters to literal smirking hand-wringing genocidal lunatics >adheres to every expectation of fanboys >gets universal praise
Are fanboys the problem?
Jackson Campbell
Snyder makes has decent visuals but holy fuck his writers and editors are incompetent af.
Its like they allowed a talented goy a seat at the table but saddled him with nepotic jews with coke habits and no artistic skill
Adrian Gray
the characters are deeply flawed because they had terrible writers, not brilliant ones
villains motivations are retarded, illogical, or nonexistent
battles are loud, dumb, and lazy
William Sanchez
Here are the 3 reasons why Wonder Woman is doing the best of the DCEU movies.
1. The first "real" Wonder Woman movie ever made.
2. In this age of hyper-feminism, having a female superhero helps immensely and turns it into a "empowerment" film.
3. It features a historical event.
4. It has "heart" compared to the other DCEU movies.
Nicholas Moore
This 100%
I don't think people realize that the problem was NEVER Snyder, it was always David S. Goyer. He is an awful writer.
Jordan Gutierrez
there's only two reasons
1. Feminist angle marketing targeting a demo that usually doesn't watch capeshit
2. tie-in to the DCU making completionist fans watch it out of necessity
Thomas Cooper
>Zod's motivation is that he is not only genetically but completely indoctrinated into a "Krypton first, fuck everything else" attitude and will do anything to preserve Krypton and the species of Kryptonians, even genocide a "lesser race" in order to use their world to make its rebirth easier >Batman has been hardened by decades of fighting criminals in Gotham, watching most of his friends and allies get beaten to death or crippled or turn bad, sees an alien come from the sky and in a single day be involved in thousands of deaths, oh and he's also fucking unstoppable, seriously guys if he has a bad day he could literally kill us all >Lex is deranged but intelligent cringing millenial billionaire who felt completely removed from his position of power by the presence of superman, a position he desperately wanted to attain because of abuse and powerlessness during his childhood >these are "retarded, illogical, or nonexistant"
user Snyder/Goyer literally has the characters address their motivations to the audience multiple times in each movie
Jack Hill
Anyone here care to give me a real reason the writing is bad without trying to autistically rip on the plot? Because almost every movie has some issue of plot, that's the problem with fiction, and moreover the theme/moral of the story is much more important than what literally takes place.
Also the problem with WW was the laughably cartoonish villains, rest was actually very fine.
Benjamin Nelson
Don't expect much from Sup Forums. Most of them are normies that happened to visit Sup Forums a few times before migrating here for brba/GoT threads.
Isaiah Lewis
A lot of the action was laughable
Armond was right, Leni and Bigelow are the only women directors who can do action
Robert Howard
is anybody else pissed off that the WB kikes murdered Zack Snyder's daughter just to push him out of making Justice League? i was so hyped for it but now there's a fucking Hillary supporting redditor at the helm now doing reshoots
Andrew Cook
>>subverting comic's expectations >by having Superman fight and get killed by grey hulk with shit strapped on I hope you aren't expecting him to stay dead because that's gonna really be subverted
Caleb Bailey
what motivates lex to jizz into a pool of zod's blood?
Brayden Myers
>In this age of hyper-feminism
Hunter Smith
A weapon to surpass the man of steel
Ethan Adams
I felt the action was done poorly but the physics amd I suppose what they were going for seemed fine to me, unfortunate execution definitely.
Jonathan Flores
that being the thing he resented for all the reasons you listed above?
wow, a plan befit for a genius
its too bad the source material didn't lend itself to lex making a giant suit incorporating the stuff that kills superman.
Isaiah Wilson
he had no more stuff also >Jesse Eisenberg in a green mech suit
Sebastian Foster
Knowledge he gained from the ship, knowledge that not only pertained to Krypton's explorations but also a ton of Earth's own lost history.
Andrew Parker
Capeshit fans are the lowest common denominator.
Dylan Taylor
>its too bad the source material didn't lend itself to lex making a giant suit incorporating the stuff that kills superman Oh user. That would be silly