American History X

i dont see how nazi derek is wrong here, especially about the rodney king situation.

There was a point Rodney King was no longer a threat and the cops were still beating his ass.

He's not wrong, but he's bald, it's in black and white, the mother and the jew look frightened and he has a big evil windmill on his chest, so therefore he is wrong.

yeah ok, but in this case it was well deserved.
its not like they did that to some pregnant lady but to a hardened criminal.
sure, this should have had consequences for the cops but it didnt really warrant the massive riots that followed.

Most of the public was ignorant what occurred before the video and the video was just the tipping point of decades of police brutality that lead to the riots

Is it before or after this speech that he destroys someone's business and claims it's righteous? He's a smart guy, but a misguided, overly-emotional hypocrite like all ideologues are.

>destroys someone's business and claims it's righteous?
The 'someone' was a self-serving gook who only wanted to employ illegals so that he could pay them less and keep more for himself.

Most Korean and Chinese business owners are like this. They're not a very patriotic or principled people. Derek and the other skinheads were doing the country a favor by teaching him a lesson.

Big evil windmill. Classic pepperoni.

And the people who rioted after Rodney King had equally valid justification for their actions. Derek is just making his own biased interpretation of events and calling it fact, that's why he's wrong.

rodney king is a criminal pile of shit, but the cops did beat on him for too long.

>And the people who rioted after Rodney King had equally valid justification for their actions
No they don't.
No other race responds that way when one of their own gets treated severely by law enforcement. Not one.
Blacks being some kind of magical exception to the rule doesn't make them saints or angels.

was he a commie?

who is he to claim righteousness over somebody elses business practices

he's not wrong, he's just a shitty hot tempred person. you can't rob supermarkets and murder people in the streets.

>>Sup Forums

Honestly it just proves why the cops should beat them more

>was he a commie?
John McCain and the other neocons aren't communists, but they are still huge threats to the stability of the nation.
What is your point exactly? Communists aren't the only enemies of America.

>who is he to claim righteousness over somebody elses business practices
Conducting business at the expense of your own countrymen is an immoral and abhorrent action that deserves some kind of response from both citizens and law enforcement.

The American government as of the past 20 years has been actively anti-white and anti-american. This leaves middle-class whites like Derek no choice but to take matters into their own hands.
If you don't want whites to burn down gook-owned grocery stores, then start treating them with more respect. It's that simple.

why didnt he attack white business owners employing illegals for cheap labour?

>No they don't.
You're saying Derek was justified in destroying a super market because the owner had immoral business practices (as if Derek cared about the welfare of the illegals employed there), but the black community wasn't justified in rioting for having to live in fear of police brutality? Even if they weren't right, their reason just as if not more valid.

>No other race responds that way when one of their own gets treated severely by law enforcement. Not one.
No, you're right. White people only destroy property when their college football team loses.

>Blacks being some kind of magical exception to the rule doesn't make them saints or angels.
It's not about exceptions, it's about context. If you just ignore all historical context when it suits your biases then you're no better than an SJW.

>There was a point Rodney King was no longer a threat and the cops were still beating his ass.
Yeah, like a couple of swipes. A jury of their peers already decided this.

What's funny is that this movie is a lot more layered than Sup Forums thinks but they think it's an affront to white people and get offended accordingly


I wouldn't say Derek or his dad are right or wrong but I think they're valid arguments at least or something to think about. And why else would they have the black guy shoot Danny if it was a "WHITES BAD, BLACKS GOOD" message?

It's funny when racists discuss this movie and reveal how stupid they are, but don't know they're doing because they're stupid.

is this his best role?

because Sup Forums, like all other ideologues, hate any kind of nuance and just wanted to see derek go full 14/88 and shoot niggers for 30 minutes as an ending

>You're saying Derek was justified in destroying a super market because the owner had immoral business practices (as if Derek cared about the welfare of the illegals employed there), but the black community wasn't justified in rioting for having to live in fear of police brutality? Even if they weren't right, their reason just as if not more valid.
No, the black community was not justified and they never will be justified in anything.
When black males make up only 6.5% of the total US population, but are also responsible for roughly 50% of all homicides each year, then you lose the right to ever complain about 'injustices' and 'police brutality'. Period.
Their very existence is a causing untold amounts of fear and paranoia in this country. The statistics do not lie.

>White people only destroy property when their college football team loses.
A few cars turned over =/= entire city blocks being burned down, costing billions to repair
Name me a single white riot that cost the US billions. Just one. One that is comparable to LA or Ferguson.

>It's not about exceptions, it's about context. If you just ignore all historical context when it suits your biases then you're no better than an SJW.
I gave you context.
Blacks people as a whole are 13% of the entire US population.
Why is a group so minuscule in relation to the rest of the US so overrepresented in riots, rape, murder, prison population, drug abuse, abortions, etc.???

>Right turn only

RIGHT TURN ONLY

The validity of Derek's points were undermined at that time by linking them outright to the skinhead movement.

Basically, American History X is a Hollywood Jew's thoughts on what White Nationalism is.

The Jew at the dinnertable is meant as an avatar for the average liberal minded Jewish professional in America.

Due to the progression of time however that rant has increasingly been proven correct however. If America was going to have racial reconciliation, it would have happened by now.

Derek shaving his head was the original ending, retard.

Guess what that would have involved?

>derek go full 14/88 and shoot niggers for 30 minutes as an ending
kino

i know, retard

and it wouldnt have involved anything, that wouldve been the end of the movie

in fact i think they should have kept that ending, since its much more appropriate to the movies overall message

Rodney King won the civil suit

Yeah, but that was against the City of Los Angeles.

>Why is a group so minuscule in relation to the rest of the US so overrepresented in riots, rape, murder, prison population, drug abuse, abortions, etc.???
Because they haven't had a chance to integrate or rise from poverty in over half a fucking millenium.

Slavery ended over a century and a half ago, they've had 150 years to get their proverbial shit together, and still haven't
Fuck off with your bullshit

The implication with that ending is that Derek DOES go full 14/88 and kills a bunch of coons.

American History X undermines it's own message because the vast majority of blacks aren't seen in a positive light. You have the high school principle and you have the uncharacteristically nice black guy in prison, the rest of the blacks in the film are outright hostile to Derek and his brother.

The message is literally 'most people suck, but don't perpetuate this shit by being an asshat to people who might turn out to be nice'

Other minority groups have had to deal with the same amount of overt racism in the USA yet they've prospered, even with a smaller amount of time to do so.

Just as poor, just as reviled, yet they are a success story.

Here is something to contemplate: by international African standards, African-Americans are the smartest and the richest blacks on the face of the world.

It's genetic. African Americans have on average 20% white admixture.

That's the intended message but it undermines itself.

I think it's rather realistic.

her name is emma harvey and her number might still be 7096802923
i haven't talked to her in a while though

It's unrealistic. You're not basing your views on the statistics, instead focusing on outliers.

what is she like?

It's hard to argue statistics about things like kindness. My point is that lower class whites and blacks, especially those involved with crime and drugs are probably likely to have more negative than positive interactions.

boring. she became a pill addict and started whoring herself out, now shes a insta model. honestly, shes not a good person.

>calls blacks coons
>clearly doesn't understand the movie


really rows your boat

Seemed more like a socialist of the national type.

>My point is that lower class whites and blacks, especially those involved with crime and drugs are probably likely to have more negative than positive interactions.

That's true.

What you don't understand is the disparity of crime between poor whites and poor blacks.

Upper class blacks have a murder rate similar to lower class whites IIRC.