As a smart person or just someone who supports democracy, liberal values and prosperity you should support the United States. No, i am not being ironic, or baiting or something. I am totally honest right now. The USA while having some flaws and doing mistakes from time to time is still the best party to stick to. They do defend their interests and the interests of their allies, they provide great economic and financial opportunities and they let those who are with them to prosper and exersice freedom and demicracy.
Who would you rather side with? Germany/France have only selfish interests in the heart and they only aim to rob and use their "'allies"' (more like puppets) for the Germans'/the French' benefits and profit.What they did (and keep doing btw) to eastern and southern europe is just so disgusting and low that i don't even have enough words to describe how horrible it is. China? Oppressive authoritarian state with no value of human life whatsoever, no freedom, no democracy. Not to mention that their economy is on the verge of collapse. UK? They'll stick to the US anyway (as they should have done much earlier). And the rest are just too weak/poor or even totalitarian to even think about joining them.
So the USA is still the only right choice if you wish you and your beloved nation to prosper.
Democratic liberal values in the current era are for people who want to stay pampered and comfortable while the IDENTITY of the nation at large becomes nonexistant slowly but surely
You only really hit the surface of knowledge when it comes to the political situation, sure USA seems like it's the good guy but in reality the USA is compromised and not working for the interests of themselves anymore. BTW, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) is just making puppet states out of European countries.
Jackson Lewis
In all honesty, the world would be a slightly better place if you died in your sleep tonight.
Adam Flores
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Leo Kelly
Hahaha how come? Because I understand that human values is linked to race? Ironically, when white people become a minority and die out any kind of liberal moralist political sphere will completely vanish.
Ryan Adams
Liberal democracy is shit.
Zachary Lopez
Lel the kremlinbot (yes, you of course) is at it again.
Evan Walker
shut the fuck up nawalny
Jonathan Sanchez
>Because I understand that human values is linked to race?
shut up retard
Luke Diaz
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Angel Parker
pls not fooling anyone
Nicholas Brooks
How come you can't logically dispute what I say instead of telling me to shut up?
Jose Brooks
Btw i see kremlin produced some OC recently. But it won't help since the world knows that Russia is the biggest supporter and funder of terrorism worldwide.
Blake Nelson
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Bentley Taylor
Ignore the kremlinbot.
Christian Campbell
At least I bump your threads making your useless life better for a while.
Noah Scott
hes right tho
Ayden Thompson
t. DeShawn Hernandez
so this is the power of American posts...
Andrew Hill
The USA started out great, because its political system was the perfect balance between efficiency and liberal values, but that's not the case anymore. The two-party system has turned the country into an oligarchy full of lobbyists by forcing an unhealthy political equilibrium onto it.
Colton Hall
>ad hominems so this is the power of leftist Sup Forums..............
Angel King
>I'm so far right that everyone else is a leftist
Carter Parker
When you just throw out insults at me I can only assume you are doing it because you are on the left, maybe if you gave me some logical basis to your replies I wouldn't do that
Evan Moore
Firstly, Mr. Mutt, what is "white"? I'm not one of those idiots who say that race is a social construct, but I will say that the boundaries between races are social constructs, the constructs of imperialists in days of old. How would you define "white" when Sicilians can look darker than some Lebanese? Wouldn't that already prove that the intellectual revolutions originating in Europe were a product of culture, not race?
Secondly, can you prove that no other peoples may espouse these human values that you speak of?
Parker Watson
Finally a sane person.
Charles Lee
Ah, the bipolarity of ameripolitics never ceases to amuse met.
Andrew Gray
>what is "white"? Do you have this issue regarding other races? My claims are based on demographics and geographical awareness. African countries are not at all liberal and non-European "Americans" always vote for more socialism and bigger government. Also, how the demographic change affected the country of Haiti.
Nathan Baker
Demographics don't matt-
Jaxon Wood
>Do you have this issue regarding other races? Why wouldn't I? Why would you ask that? >African countries are not at all liberal Nice generalising fifty countries into one lump.
All you are talking about is Africans. Why?
Levi Fisher
Your point being?
Julian Peterson
I'm bringing that to light because you don't seem to have this issue regarding other races, you fucking racist
You can include other countries as well: For example, some asian countries, like Vietnam or the Phillipines, aren't very found of freedom
Aaron Williams
You utter arse, I'm a Chinese person from Southeast Asia. How did you ever come to the conclusion that I'm racist or whatever?
Kayden Brown
those who try to divide european nations (EEUU included) = EU propangada department
Jacob Nguyen
>EEUU The US*
Brayden Lee
>European countries are more liberal because of race and not because that's where liberalism was born
Julian Wilson
Firstly, Mr. Kim, what is "asian"? I'm not one of those idiots who say that race is a social construct, but I will say that the boundaries between races are social constructs, the constructs of imperialists in days of old. How would you define "asian" when Chinese can look darker than some Korean? Wouldn't that already prove that the intellectual revolutions originating in Asia were a product of culture, not race?
Angel Long
Why do Americans always relate everything to race and politics?
Jack Hall
Exactly, Europeans had the guts to speak out against autocracy and that culminated in both scientific and political revolutions. It doesn't have much at all to do with race.
Joseph Robinson
>comes into my country illegally and votes for more welfare and takes jobs >why do americans connect politics with race so much?
Carter Reed
What are you blabbering about? Firstly, I'm Chinese; secondly, "East Asian" doesn't have well-defined boundaries, either. Where do you draw the borders? Where are those in Turkestan, and those in the Tai-inhabited mountains of southeast Asia? Your posts are bizarre.
Chase Ramirez
Don't worry majority of western countries think exactly same, don't forget that imageboards are populated by weird people with fringe opinions.
Connor Stewart
I don't know how you came to the conclusion that I'm racist against white people. How on earth...?
I'm gay, I'm primarily attracted to white people. What's wrong with you?
Jaxon Taylor
Why do Americans always relate EVERYTHING to race and politics?
Levi Murphy
Why do you seem annoyed enough to keep repeating you're Chinese but not Korean? Asian is just a social construct haha, what even is "Asian" dude?
Andrew Jones
>human values is linked to race? Just no.
Brayden Lopez
Refer to I reject that races are social constructs, but I accept that the boundaries between races are social constructs.
Ryan Ward
Well, the rise of liberalism in Europe is not so black and while like "ancien regime was evil!", and neither the revolutionaries where good people as well.
Asher Williams
Of course they weren't, the Reign of Terror was horrid and all. But that isn't the point.
Thomas Smith
I'm 100% behind the USA. Love the land, love the culture, but above all that, I love the founding principles, the values (what's left of them), and the fact that they're generally on my country's side.
Some of the people are a bit tacky or a bit gross, but that's true of anywhere. I've been over there and people were all friendly. It makes me sad to see racists mock them for not being white enough, or snobby Euros mock them for not being sophisticated enough. I think there are far, far worse countries out there, people-wise.
I wish they'd stayed in the Commonwealth, but I guess we always have Canada.
William Parker
>muttland >democracy U mad. Same kike oligarchy as ours, and tv clowns larping as """politics""".
Camden Butler
If you reject that races are social constructs then why do you act like they are? How come countries outside of Europe and the USA aren't moralist economic superpowers then?
Dominic Edwards
What do you mean? >How come countries outside of Europe and the USA aren't moralist economic superpowers then? Because the enlightenment is in Europe?
Juan Peterson
>I'm primarily attracted to white people Das racis
Easton Long
Learn to read between the lines, I've mirrored what you have said it sounded racist as fuck, therefore exposing this stupid double standard about whites and other races. >Because the enlightenment is in Europe? Why wasn't it in Mongolia? Mongolians are equal to Europeans, it's just melanin!
Josiah Diaz
>this is what russians actually believe Explain Trump winning.
>I've mirrored what you have said it sounded racist as fuck It doesn't sound racist to me at all, what are you talking about?
"Chinese" has very blurred boundaries, especially with the tiny Chinese urheimat expanding into Manchurian and Nanyue lands.
>Why wasn't it in Mongolia? Why attribute it to race instead of say, topography?
Robert Morgan
Some of the ethnicities with very blurred boundaries are in Asia. Burma, China, Siam; all were products of massive expansion into what were once foreign lands. I don't get how that is racist?
Michael Davis
You do realize the reason why people's races are a thing is because of topography, yes?
Ryan Powell
>smart >Liberal Look what they did to your country with their democracy and capitalism . Rigged the first election, destroyed the economy and threw your country men into paranoia so now they cling to the only thing that gave them any hope, a populist like Putin. Explain a rich Jew lover winning
Adrian Young
Other things depend on topography too, you know?
Bentley Campbell
Sure, but those of things are very modest compared to it. We're just not taught about it, because it's very politically incorrect and would encourage critical thinking
Owen Brooks
>but those of things are very modest compared to it The splitting up of the western Romance dialect continuum into three by the Pyrenees and the Alps is "modest"? The prosperity of cities along important trade routes - Constantinople, for example - as compared to those off them - such as Kerch or Varna - is "modest"? The industrial boom in cities from Birmingham to Pittsburgh, instead of other cities, is "modest"?
Folk in Cyprus got copper from their mountains. Folk in Mongolia didn't because they sat on the steppes, and the Sayan mountains are inhospitable. I wouldn't say the effect of topography is modest.
Justin Hall
It's postulated by some that the reason Europe expanded and China didn't is because China had sufficient agricultural land; with its large landmass it had enough flour for the north and enough rice for the south. But European topography is so peninsular and mountainous, with arid areas of Spain and Apennine peaks of Italy, that expansion was a necessity in obtaining resources.
The Atlas was called the breadbasket of Rome for good reason. Italy couldn't produce enough on its finite space and had to turn to the Barbary Coast. But China was always too big for its own good, and so were the North Indian kingdoms.
Christian Perry
Of course some would say that the Song Dynasty of China was nearing the harnessing of coal and steam when the Mongols invaded and set them back.
If that were the case, manufacturing capabilities would have increased vastly in China, leading to a fall in prices of goods, and subsequently a push for more equitable political measures.
But that happened in Europe instead.
Jeremiah Long
Loool. Never knew that.
Angel Green
And who did these things? What people is attributed to these historical events? It is not modest in comparison, but modest because those are events are a subjection of topography, which ties into race You can go on about minute details and shift the goal posts but this would be intellectually dishonest for the discussion, it is ultimately about race and what it means.
You asked what is "White", yes? White is European, European is European history, and European history is European because of it's topography and the peoples that evolved there. The Americas, Australia, etc are all extensions of Europe, and when you replace the native populations of these countries you ultimately bastardize the politics, the international role of the countries, and yet you have the audacity to ask me or other Americans why we ever care or why it's even a big deal
Connor Perry
>it is ultimately about race and what it means. And discount differences in culture?
Why didn't any significant intellectual revolution come out of the Balkans north of Thessaly and west of Silivri? Why do great thinkers - Leibniz, Descartes, Locke, Rousseau, all come from several specific modern-day countries?
Can you still attribute that to "Europeanism"?
>yet you have the audacity to ask me or other Americans why we ever care or why it's even a big deal Why is it a big deal?
Juan Nguyen
>those are events are a subjection of topography, which ties into race So? Topography is a cause of several things; and you're proposing a causative link between a few of its consequences, instead?
Robert Jones
RACE IS CULTURE please get that through your head
>Why is it a big deal even though you told me why it is? >JAWN LOCKE Lmao, I'm done. Good bye
Eli Harris
>RACE IS CULTURE Ah yes, of course!
It would have come to that one way or another, wouldn't it.
Blake Collins
Whole "jewish" media was against him.
Hudson Flores
>Liberal >ex soviet crooks >liberal
Noah Jones
>when the Mongols invaded and set them back. Yes we too blame dirty mongorians for backwardness of Russia.