Did Disney fuck Sony over...

Did Disney fuck Sony over? They were much better off doing their own thing instead of reducing Spidey to an Iron Man sidekick.

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Should've gone with Raimi instead of making a deal with the devil.

OF course. All part of the plan. This will cause Sony to go under and Disney can pick up Bond and Spidey for cheap

>reducing Spidey to an Iron Man sidekick
Can this meme end already? Iron man is hardly even in the film.

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Raimi or riot disney needs to gtfo

Of course, user. Spider-Man is hotly contested, and nobody wanted this thing to be partnered. Marvel wants Spider-Man back, and Sony wants to keep him, since he's literally their only hope.
If Marvel set up a solitary Spider-Man, Sony could theoretically use all that in their films. By tying up his mythology in MCU shit, Marvel clips Sony's wings.
That's why Sony is trying to make a Venom Universe and shit independent of Spider-Man, because otherwise they'd have to use an MCU character, which they can't. or reboot Spider-Man, again.

My dream is for Sam Raimi to make another spider-man film, and they bring back Tobey Maguire, and it's an older more experienced version of Spider-Man.

I don't know why Sony is allergic to money, Spider-Man 3 made almost 900m in the box office. More than Spider-Man 2. The Amazing Spider-Man 1, and 2, and probably Homecoming.

Now this was 2007 money, so adjusted for inflation you get Spider-Man 3 making.
$1 billion dollars in the box office.

Capeshit is dying. THIS IS NOT A MEME!

Seriously, both Marvel and DC have flooded the market. Thry both have plans to release 3 movies PER YEAR until at least 2020.

That's SIX capeshit movies a year between them. One every two months.

Then you have Fox wanting to reboot their shit too. As well as indies wanting in on the fun.

So no, movies aren't hitting their budgets for "creative" reasons. They're simply not hitting because people can't afford to go see exorbitantly priced movies every week.

That's it.

Amy Pascal got played by Feige big time. Instead of making their own Spidey Universe, they reduced a potential billion earner to a fucking Avengers sidekick. This benefits ONLY Disney. They struck a deal with the devil of cinema.

is it true that mj is now a nigger?

We want Spiderman 4

Fuck this sjw cuckman bullshit

i feel like you guys are giving Sony way too much credit, you saw what they did with Amazing and that was all on them

>I don't know why Sony is allergic to money, Spider-Man 3 made almost 900m in the box office. More than Spider-Man 2.
They were starting pre-production on Spider-man 4 and had cast John Malkovich as The Vulture and Anne Hathaway as Felicia Hardy.

The problem was Raimi wanted more time to develop the film and Sony HAS to make a film utilizing the Spider-man rights every certain amount of years or they lose them. Risking losing Spidey over waiting for Raimi, they rebooted it because it was either do Amazing Spider-man reboot or lose the rights to Disney.

It's the same reason FOX shit out F4ntastic Four reboot despite so many problems in development, they just needed the film to release at a certain point or risk losing the license. It's also why X-men: First Class had such a shit budget and subpar special effects, after the nonperformance of X3 and Wolverine: Origins they were just trying to keep the rights.

I really liked First Class. Goes to show that budget means little so long as you have a skilled director with a talented cast.

>expecting people to care about spiderman after 3 reboots in a decade

>They struck a deal with the devil of cinema.
You say this when Sony is the one that made Ghostbusters?
The one unironically making a fucking Emoji movie?
The one that thought it would be "cool" if Spiderman danced to techno?
The one that unironically considered making an Aunt May solo movie for TASM?
The one that considered making a Spiderman vs The Amazing Spiderman movie?
Hell, Sony made Homecoming.

Look at this list, Sony creates nothing but shovelware.

Even if Spidey is a potential Billion Dollar franchise, big if given Spidey fatigue, Sony is incapable of producing that return.
Pascal is a literal retard who has no idea what people want, and is hampered by her absolute desire to sacrifice quality for her political passion plays.

Are you acting as if I should be sorry for Sony?
I'm happy they got fucked over, the only decent movies they have shat out since Spiderman 2 are Casino Royale and Skyfall.

>They were much better off doing their own thing
No, they fucking weren't. You're an idiot.

Oh yeah, poor Sony and their amazing TASM movies.

No, we don't, we want no more Spiderman movies.
Fuck capeshit, and fuck superheroes in general, it's a subgenre made specifically for manchildren.

Sony is all about corporatism and profit. They are desperately trying to get into the extended universe market and are failing spectacularly.
They set up an entire wing, Ghostcorps, to handle the Ghostbusters Cinematic Universe.

They literally thought they were going to be able to center a Cinematic Universe around 4 fugly Middle Age women in jumpers. They have no idea what they're doing.

Every time they make a film, they plan out years and years worth of high concepts with actors to play the projected roles, while producing a slapdash, overbudgeted, made by committee piece of shit.
Amy Pascal is one of the biggest incompetents in modern history.

Imagine coming up with this movie.
Imagine having a 15M+ headstart on WW and losing it two weeks after.

>Spidercunts getting cucked again
>mfw Spiderman will never, EVER become the posterboy of the MCU
Maybe they'll have to give a chance to heroes that haven't gotten so fucking boring already.

This benefits no one...or at least the ones who get fucked the hardest is us the viewers. Sony will close the deal now that they know marvel is just jewing them...and then just go back to doing shitty spiderman movies. No more spiderman in the MCU....marvel doesnt care since they have other cows to milk and fans will just have to accept it

I'm 100% sure that the jews in charge are trying to get Sony studio's broke simply because the parent company is run by japs.

This, let capeshit fucking die already.

or maybe the nips are not good businessmen.

Sony was doing the fucking all by itself. They kept rebooting the damn series far too many times in far too short period of time.

That lead people loosing interest.

And what will Sony do, reboot Spiderman again and finish off killing him?

Nope...they will continue on this timeline with the characters from the mcu cut. They will ride on it for another 2 movies and then say the series is not popular and can it. Emoji movie will bring them enough movie to make a profiti wish i was joking and do something with their other ips. Basically what publishers do with video games when they fail...."they say that there wasnt enough interest in the IP and bury it"

No, Pascal just got her position via tribal nepotism. She's actually just retarded.
The Sony Film division is run by Americans. Japanese run the whole company, but the films are done by Americans

My bet is that it will take a significant blow after the Infinity Wars movies. Normies are already a bit too saturated with capeshit films, it's nearly been a decade since Iron Man, but they're still hyped for the conclusion to the Avengers Saga.
The problem will be hooking them after Thanos is gone. Even if the threat is bigger, they may not be invested anymore.
Plus, they'll have had like 16 non MCU movies by then.

This. I'm surprised this many people saw the film at all.

And thats purely because it was marvel.

You can't tell me another fucking rebooted spiderman film by Sony would have worked.

movie needs to make 900 million worldwide to break even, and it needs the domestic box office to rise because China is only going to give back 25% of the revenue.

That's a huge figure. It probably needs more like 550mil to break even off 175mil, modest estimate.
That said, it's definitely going down mediocre hit status. When does it open in China?

They have Iron Man, who brings a billion by himself. That's why everyone thought that it would get to a billion easily.

August at the earliest, last I've read. Probably in the fall, though, when everyone and their mother will already watched HD pirated versions.

Fuck, why so late? That can't be normal in China.

They have a Hollywood movies blackout right now. If they knew Tom Holland is gay they probably would just blacklist it though.

Is it because they've realized all these Hollywood movies are garbage, or general American-skepticism, possibly due to US/NK relations?

Disney completely fucked Sony in the ass.

comicbook.com/marvel/2017/02/02/sony-admits-selling-spider-man-merchandising-rights-were-short-s/

They're even forcing Sony to treat the PS4 Spiderman game as a first party game so sonyggers will shill it and all the profits will go in Disney pockets.

>marvel doesnt care since they have other cows
RDJ is getting tired of being milked.

That's Chris Evans.
RDJ doesn't have a problem with it because he doesn't have to actually do anything and gets paid a shitload.

Oh bullshit, who wouldn't want to play an absolutely adored character and make millions upon millions upon millions of dollars?
Don't ever act contented.
That sounds like an unintended side effect. That merchandising rights sale happened years ago, right?
Sony never wanted to do this, since Marvel now owns like 3/5s of Spider-Man.
What the fuck is sony going to do? Venom Universe? Reboot # 4?

No need to look into geopolitics.

Chinese businessmen simply want to have the local industry grow instead of being swamped by foreign releases, so they only release local movies on certain periods in Summer.

This was done on purpose, Feige is fucking Spidey:

Flush Poonson?
MJ Mulatta?
No JJJ?
Iron Man bitch?

This shit got released last week in half Europe and the other half is still waiting, the fuck?

That's pretty smart. Hollywood was gearing up for Chinese box office domination, and never once thought that China might capitalize on its own market.
Any time Hollywood gets taken down a peg, I laugh

I'm more pissed at mathlete Flash and grunge emo MJ than at their skin colors.

I don't mind a different race Flash, but don't fucking touch my readheads, they're more minority than fucking blacks

175 million plus ad budget of 144 million.

Yeah, and I got my 550 figure by doubling 175 and adding 50 for good measure. If the ad budget was only 144, then it would be less, not counting theatre cost