>Why Marvel Will Change Captain Marvel’s Origin Story in the Brie Larson Film
>Guardians of the Galaxy scribe and Captain Marvel co-writer Nicole Perlman said on a podcast Tuesday that Carol Danvers (a.k.a. Captain Marvel) will get a new origin story. Perlman explained that Marvel wanted to differentiate Captain Marvel’s backstory from that of DC Comics’ Green Lantern. (The two tales share some similarities.) Perlman said the changes would make the movie—the 21st in the Marvel Cinematic Universe—more cohesive with the other Marvel films.
>“If you were just going to do a straight adaptation of the comics, her origin story is very similar to Green Lantern. And obviously, that’s not what we want to do. There’s a lot of reinvention that needs to happen,” she said on Any Time With Vin Forte. “We have to be aware of what’s happened in other Marvel film and makes sure that her particular storyline is unique and fun and also fits in within this world that’s going on at the same time.”
>In the comics, Carol Danvers gets her powers when a machine created by the alien race called Kree—the same race Ronan the Accuser belongs to in Guardians of the Galaxy—explodes. During the disaster, the alien powers of a Kree hero who calls himself Captain Marvel (his real name is Mar-Vell) transfer to Carol, at which point she becomes a superhero in her own right. She first takes the name Ms. Marvel but later adopts Mar-Vell’s old title, Captain Marvel. She becomes a part of the Avengers team and also aids the Guardians of the Galaxy.
They're having to force her so hard to be their big female hero that they're just going to rewrite everything about her.
If you have to completely change their origin story of all fucking things, that's a pretty good sign you probably chose the wrong character.
Kayden Lopez
Yeah at this point going with She-Hulk would have been better.
Cameron Richardson
I called this back when the movie was first announced. They're going to cut Mar-vell out of her origin entirely because a woman getting her powers from a man wouldn't fit the narrative they want to put out.
Christian James
She-Hulk likes sex and as such is problematic to be Marvel's flagship Perfect Female Character during the sex-negative 2010s. It's not like you can casually erase that for the normies like with Carol's drunken fascist history.
Oliver Green
Boy I can't wait for Marvel to reboot Carol completely to align themselves with the movie version.
Hopefully the movie Carol is less bland than comic Carol.
They don't have all the Hulk rights, they have to share them.
Luke Richardson
Which I guess means no Phyla either. Bunch of wankers.
Thomas Reed
They're nothing alike. But yeah, I hope Mar-Vell at least plays some role. Personally, I want him to be introduced as cancer-ridden and doing one last suicide mission: raiding S.H.I.E.L.D. bases for Kree corpses so they can get a proper burial. Do Kree do burials?
Cooper Wood
It's basically what happened to Tony Stark, and look how that ended.
Adrian Gonzalez
Marvel's done this shit far more than people realize. Blade, Iron Man, Star Lord, Wolverine, Ultron, now Miss Marvel. Yet no one calls them out on it.
Christopher Young
Not wasting time trying to make the general audience care about Mar-Vell is probably a good thing for the movie. Unless you're a Mar-Vell fan.
Jaxson Scott
What are you talking about? The only thing they changed about Tony's origin in the movies is not having it happen in Vietnam.
Gavin Wilson
This board has bitched about every single one of those though. Except Iron Man.
Kayden Foster
This.
What the fuck did they even change for Iron Man's origin?
Josiah Diaz
>Yet no one calls them out on it. What? I'm pretty sure I've seen a lot of bitching in Marvel threads and most of the time I agree with them.
Dominic Collins
They aren't going to do anything with Mar-Vell. Too close to Green Lantern, apparently.
Wyatt Garcia
Shulkie's originan is as dull as Carol's desu fampai
Mason Davis
Mar-Vell isn't close to Green Lantern and neither is Carol. Carol being a military hot shot is as close as it gets. Nova is the closest Marvel has to Green Lantern.
Joseph King
Alien dude dies an gives hotshot earth pilot his powers so their legacy as a galactic superhero lives on.
Aiden Rogers
Brie has a very cold, calculating eyes, like she knows how to manipulate people to get what she wants.
Juan Peterson
If anything Carol is closer to Supergirl (hello Ms Blonde """"Danvers""" who has the power of the Kreeptonyan race)
Jace Collins
Would it really be that hard to have the opening be Mar-Vell dying and then having the power transfer to Carol? That's hardly like Green Lantern, where there's a corps and a weapon instead.
Robert Brown
>Unless you're a Mar-Vell fan.
And I'm one of all three of us.
John Allen
I doubt anyone bitched about Blade.
Adam Torres
Mar-Vell didn't intentionally give Carol powers nor did he die while doing it.
Elijah Reed
Its prefect. Movie fans dont read comics so by the time the movie comes out when the few casuals that backtrack read the books itll be just like the movie. .
And i guess they arent doing Carol/Rhodey in the MCU. Which means they might do Carol/T'challa
Joseph Gonzalez
This board was made wau after the first Blade movie came out.
Wolverine never had a defining origin and most people don't like the one Marvel gave him.
Star-Lord's origin wasn't going to translate well to film so it needed the tweaking
People bitched about Ultron, where were you at?
They only updated Iron Man's origin but it's about the same as it ever was
Also it's Ms Marvel.
Adrian Parker
Human is chosen by a dying member of an elite intergalactic police force to take his place and given control over an extreme power source.
Nova is far more similar in origin than Carol.
Jack Long
She got hulk blood because Bruce is her cousin.
You could make it an organ transfer because Bruce's healing factor. Have the Hulk cells mutate the others or some crap.
Jason Myers
That was probably the first draft of the script thou
The movie isn't called "Ms Marvel". In order for Carol to get promoted to Captain, Mar-Vell probably died first-act if he was in the movie at all.
Lucas Gutierrez
Which doesn't mean shit because we're not getting Nova either
Samuel Campbell
Or they'll just skip the Ms. Marvel phase entirely.
Carter Gomez
>And i guess they arent doing Carol/Rhodey in the MCU Why wouldn't they? Rhodey isn't dead, just paralyzed.
Dylan Bailey
Not that different from Carol getting her powers from a "male version" of her
Plus, Universal has half of Hulk's rights, Marvel wont be spliting profits of ver first female-lead film
Aiden Nelson
He's twice her age.
Jaxson Gomez
Seeing as how the comics version of Carol is a completely milquetoast character, pushed like hell because she's the closest Marvel has to their own Wonder Woman, hopefully they can actually make her interesting.
That said, I believe it would have been better for a Captain Marvel movie to focus on Monica Rambeau instead. Or, fuck it. Make a Nextwave movie. Marvel owns the movie rights to 4/5 characters in that one anyway.
Luis Peterson
Don Cheadle's 50.
If they even have a love interest (doubtful) it'll be one from Carol's book. Probably Rossi.
Gabriel Campbell
Not under Gunn, but Russos may deliver one for IW
Rumours say Sly is playing a Nova corpsmen in GoTG2 thou
Levi Nelson
She-Hulk could be Marvel Studios' own Deadpool
John Brown
I'm not going to see this anyway
Juan Perez
Carol has much more and better material to draw on than Monica.
Charles Watson
You're actually completely right. It's almost certain that movie Carol is going to be a much better character than comics Carol.
But wow, isn't that a huge fucking condemnation of 616 Carol? She's basically a complete failure of a character, or Marvel thinks so. She's such a failure they've basically decided to scoop her out and stuff a completely new character into her skin. That's damning.
Robert Jenkins
She's at least in her mid to late 40's even if you take into account the sliding timescale.
Easton Taylor
Brie Larson is 26 and this is Carol's origin movie.
Oliver Cox
In the comics Carol and Rhodey are the same age but in the MCU hes twice her age. Even though Shes supposed to be a colonel which takes 20 years to be promoted. And the actress is 26 .
Cooper Campbell
She probably won't be a colonel in the film
Gavin Evans
Seems like a smart move staying away from the cancer that is DC. Another 1b box office in the bag
Dominic Rivera
Nova doesn't have much business being on earth
Colton Collins
They shoukd have just made her Ms. Marvel then. It honestlybwould had been better for an older actress but then Marvel couldnt milk her for years after the orginal headliners leave.
Jason Lopez
Why can't she be Captain Marvel and be, you know, a Captain?
Ryder Wilson
Brie will be almost exactly Carol's age when she got her powers. It wouldn't make sense to get an older actress.
Joseph Butler
>“If you were just going to do a straight adaptation of the comics, her origin story is very similar to Green Lantern. And obviously, that’s not what we want to do. There’s a lot of reinvention that needs to happen,” she said on Any Time With Vin Forte. “We have to be aware of what’s happened in other Marvel film and makes sure that her particular storyline is unique and fun and also fits in within this world that’s going on at the same time.”
Nathan Phillips
Shes better as Ms. Marvel tho. In my opinion. But i honestly dont care. No matter what Marvel does Carol as Captain Marvel has never appealled to me all that much.
Julian Rivera
In that case I hope it's not Rich because Gunn will fuck over Rich if he has to include him.
Oliver Bell
Almost every Nova comic takes place on Earth.
Jackson Perez
Marv doesn’t need to die honestly if they go with the EMH Kree storyline but focused it on Carol then it should do good for a Captain Marvel movie.
Jayden Price
No, some character in the movie will suggest the name Ms. marvel and she'll spout some ham fisted dialogue of how sex doesn't define her. Even though the only reason she is getting a movie is because she is a woman.
Adrian Green
Do you guys think this might be Marvel's first dud? Or will the Marvel name be good enough to carry this movie?
Critics will give it a good rating regardless, I mean they gave nu Ghostbusters a good rating.
Nathaniel Martinez
Shes getting a movie because ScarJo is gonna be leaving soon and they dont have any non Xmen big names that they can market on her own. Plus they need to convince casual shes there WW.
William Hill
It's opening two months before Avengers 4 and might lead directly into it considering it's cosmic, it definitely won't be a dud
Joshua Ross
Don't care, all I want is the Kamala cameo.
Bentley Watson
>Even though the only reason she is getting a movie is because she is a woman. Face it, it is also because the character share the name with the company. That is why Marvel never abandoned her all these years.
Hudson Anderson
They are going to have to rework Carol's Captain Marvel look then if they are going to appeal to the young girl demographic, Mckelvie's Carol was a mess with that weird ass mask and mohawk and Anka's design is too masculine.
My 7 year old niece loves Wonder Woman and Supergirl and she thinks Wasp looks awesome (particularly EMH Wasp) but I show her anything with Captain Carol and she gives me a "WTF is this shit? You serious?" look or she completely ignores it.
Hell she likes Songbird's design more than she does Carol's Captain Marvel look but sadly the Tbolts aren't kid friendly.
Jaxson Lee
I'd prefer Monica in this and Kamala showing up after IW.
Jace Moore
She-Hulk will always be a knockoff and lesser version of the Hulk
Thomas Anderson
This writer did a good job reinventing the GotG for the movie screen. The MCU is very different from the comics, and that's not a bad thing. There's definitely been some improvements. And she's right, a more original origin story is critical at this point when a lot of the movies start seeming very similar and formulaic.
Owen Murphy
I doubt they'll cut Mar-vell completely. They'll probably use the Kree heavy and he's a big part of that. They'll just shift the origin around a little so Carol doesn't come off as a female version of him.
Ryan Morales
A tiny actress (great) and a full CGI She-Hulk
Nicholas Rogers
Make Carol a Air Force pilot, maybe with the Captain rank, make Monica Rambeau her co-pilot in a F-15E.
Hudson Gutierrez
Even though they basically abandoned everyone else to take the title?
Jaxson Reyes
My first choice to play Wonder Woman is Jennifer Lawrence
How the fuck do you keep Star-Lord's origin intact while starting with a GOTG movie and not make it hokey as fuck?
Adam Morris
This is a good idea user, we also should introduce other less know Marvel characters like Glenn Talbot and Rick Jones in this movie.
Connor Phillips
>he's still my ex Bitch, please.
Also, never read much Carol, but isn't she called Captain Marvel, but was officially bumped to a Colonel or something when joining NASA? I always figured her character was at least in her 30s before getting her powers, and then with the sliding timeline, late thirties by now. This whole rewrite seems unnecessary, her origin is unique in of itself (literally part of NASA as a security chief and had experiences with other heroes while in the Air Force). Alcoholism and everything would make a compelling character, since they skipped it with Iron Man, but I guess they're really going for that 'gotta be the female pillar of Marvel!'.
Dominic Morgan
Jesus Christ, they don't know the difference between Captain Marvel and Nova.
Dafuq....
Jaxson Johnson
>Even though they basically abandoned everyone else to take the title? Marvel had been rather insistent that Captain Marvel should continue to exist. Not for Carol's sake but for the Marvel name.
Nathaniel Campbell
Maybe she'd put more effort into WW but after the X-Men movies I wouldn't even have thought of considering her for shit.
Brody Hall
They're talking about the "Alien hero results in a human getting powers orgin" dumbshit. That's already part of Ms. Marvel's origin.
Nolan Cruz
The shitiest of taste. I like her taste.
Bentley Collins
Hope the Kree are still involved in it somehow, Marvel needs to do something interesting with them.
Marvel is at a point where they can shit out anything and people will eat it so it will do good.
Jace Moore
Literally Richard Ryder's origin, too, making it a valid argument. But with "Captain Marvel", they're more thank likely going to do an "experimented on by the Kree" angle because that makes it far more dramatic and "empowering". And literal connections to "soldier getting tortured/ptsd and still being a hero" that most military movies have been obsessed with as of late.
Ryan Brown
>her origin story is very similar to Green Lantern. And obviously, that’s not what we want to do That's fair, it's not like CAPTAIN MARVEL would want to borrow anything from DC, even accidentally.
Aiden Turner
I hope that's the case and if they really want to differentiate her from him even more just use the Mahr-Vehl version.
Asher Murphy
>"why is She-Hulk such a Deadpool ripoff?" cant wait
Luis Hill
>Literally Richard Ryder's origin, too, making it a valid argument No it doesn't if someone said "they don't know the difference between Captain Marvel and Nova." What Perlman said is true, because both Nova's and Ms. Marvel's origins are similar to Hal Jordan Green Lantern's.
Adrian Roberts
One of the first things Gunn said about GotG 2 was that his hate boner for Nova has not subsided. They just announced Richard's coming back. I'm just gonna enjoy that for now, rather than set unrealistically lofty goals like getting a movie.
William Perez
Nova is but how the fuck is Carol's origin anything like Hal's other than getting powers from an alien and if that is the case then a lot of superheroes have a similar origin to GL.
Austin Jones
>hate boner for Nova I am almost sure he never said he hates Nova. I think he just doesn't find him very interesting.
Eli Thompson
He also said Rich wasn't going to be in GotG vol 2 so I doubt it.
Henry Jones
Watch the movie and tell me turning the Nova Corps into Paul Blarts wasn't done out of hate.
David Collins
Well I don't have a persecution complex about Nova, so I probably view it a little differently from you.
Connor Flores
I'm so sick of hearing this shit.
Gunn wants Quill to be the only human in his movies. Drax and Mantis are getting new backstories for this very reason but you can't change Rich into an alien or he might as well be a different character. Just because Gunn doesn't want to use Nova, or doesn't like the helmet or whatever, doesn't mean he has a hateboner for him. You guys are paranoid as hell.
Besides Rich has no business being in a GOTG movie anyway. He'd be a pointless, tacked-on addition just to sate the fans. If you really give a shit you should recognize that he needs his own movie.
Brandon Ramirez
>implying the Nova Corps haven't always been a bunch of jobbers
Jace Morris
They didn't get Nova confused with Ms. Marvel, because what they said is perfectly understandable without getting Nova confused with it. It doesn't matter how many comic book superheroes got their powers from an alien hero, The number of movie superheros that share that origin is pretty slim.
Tyler White
He already included the Nova Corps. Why not have the main Nova be there, or at least mention his fucking name? It's a ridiculous reason to not include him, and the "I hate he helmet" excuse wreaks of bullshit. You can't bullshit a bullshitter, and I've lied my way out of a DUI.
Robert King
Not only that, they were less of jobbers than the comic book Nova corps because they helped the heroes by holding the Aster in place, and ensuring Quill's ship had an entrance, and their planet didn't get destroyed at the end.