Generation Kill

Are real officers actually this incompetent?

some yes

Mine came on exercise without his fucking helmet or a torch

Most COs just go to college for it, right? Can't imagine that prepares you for the realities of leadership or combat. Not that there's a better option.

I suppose some of them are only somewhat above the basic intelligence of grunts, either common sense wise or just dumb wise, or somehow both, especially lower ranking officers.

I wouldn't expect higher ranking officers to be tremendously incompetent

Worse

The whole point of it was that until Iraq the highest ranking officers in the field in Recon Marines were Sergeants, the rest stayed home. Thats why most above that rank had no idea what the fuck to do

Yes.
t. enlisted

my LT is the first result that pops up if you search the name of my base on leddit. He made a post asking what life was like and if people were accepting of an officer furry. It was all really bad

No. They go to college for college degrees, there's no "I wanna be an officer" degree.

>torch

Doesn't your own shitty nation have a place for you to hang out at Ameriboo cancer?

Please link me

> going into bagdad with tanks and helis.
> muhreens can just chill and mop up when they're done.
>colonel throat cancer sends in his open humvees before the tanks because he wants godfather-senpai to notice him.

>wouldn't expect higher ranking officers to be tremendously incompetent

Most of the good officers usually resign their commission after they meet their minimum service obligation, and that usually happens when they're a captain. That leaves a higher percentage of shitbags in the officer ranks at the field grade and above, which are the dumb fucks that make policy.

That's why the U.S. military can win pretty much every tactical fight it gets in and yet still lose strategically.

>getting a job in welfare queen
>competent

pick one. if you have any brains you pick a lucrative safe occupation. if you don't, you pick a trade. if you don't have a trade you join up.

kek

>torch
Isn't that a fire hazard?

>U.S. military can win pretty much every tactical fight it gets in and yet still lose strategically.
It's been like this since the beginning of America lol
George Washington was possibly one of the worst strategists in the entire Thirteen Colonies
But they imported that and got exceptional French and Prussian officers

Torch means flashlight

Trombley is such a fucking faggot, holy shit. If only Allah could guide a 7.62 into his skull.

CAUSE I'M JUST A TEENAGE DIRTBAG BABY

What's the matter, they wouldn't let you join because of your asthma and autism?

Most aren't as good as Lt. Fick, or as bad as Captain America.

Why so offended? Honesty must hurt

>YEAH I was gonna be a doctor and sit around getting paid $200,000 starting and never get my body put in any dangerous spots but I decided FUCK IT and joined up

>It's been like this since the beginning of America lol.

Nope. Washington made good strategic decisions while losing tactically on the field, in that he knew he had to draw out the fight and couldn't afford to put his forces in a position where they could be decisively engaged and destroyed.

The U.S. made good strategic decisions all the way up through WW II against everyone from Spain, Mexico, the prairie niggers, Barbary pirates, and the Britcucks. It wasn't until after WW II that our senior "leaders" started fucking shit up and supporting strategically unfeasible courses of action.

Should have whopped more future terrorists desu

What if you just wanted to be a warrior and kill the enemies of your nation as part of a bad assed team?

You haven't lived until you and 40 of your closest friend with guns fixed some shitbags into position with small arms fire and then called for CAS on their position and watched them get blown into pink mist by high explosives.

You were never going to be a doctor. You're a beta bitch and doctors are alpha.

People who work for a living are welfare queens, but what are you, who lives with his mom and anime pillow?

then you're retarded because you're most likely never going to see combat and if you do modern combat is a bunch of guys hide behind a ditch firing at another bunch of guys hiding behind a ditch 1000 meters away and you never know if you hit anyone and then you get shot in the ass out of nowhere and never even know where it came from and then order in an artillery strike to waste millions of dollars blowing up an empty mountain range

>What if you just wanted to be a warrior and kill the enemies of your nation as part of a bad assed team?

you'd be a child i guess, certainly not a man who is planning for his life and his families well being

You have to be 18 to post here.

projecting because you're a 14 year old kid on summer vacation who thinks being in the army is COD

Honestly, no not really at the lower levels. Or as I have been lead to believe. I'm in Army ROTC in college right now, 2 years left til I'm a fresh lieutenant.

Must be cool being an internet tough guy. How many servicemembers and veterans have you called welfare queens to their face?

if the taxpayer pays for your income, medical, education

you are a welfare queen

you can work for welfare, it's still welfare

I served 2 years in Iraq, and 1 in A-stan as a grunt, you dumb fuck. We killed more sandniggers than cancer.

KYS already, you eunuc.

37, and spent 6 years in the military. Nice try, neckbeard

why would i do that? seems like a mean spirited thing to do to someone

but sure when we're talking anonymously and honestly and openly i think it's appropriate to call a spade a spade

>went against his orders not to attack anyone unless defending his men and ambushed french soldiers when they were having breakfast
>let their commander get executed by an indian who washington lied wrote him a letter saying the french cannibalized his father and were coming for americans next
>had all the other french soldiers executed and told people they were spies and not to listen to anything they said to cover up his bullshit
>they turned out to be a diplomatic envoy and this started the 7 year war (so american was basically founded on a false flag attack)
>during this war when the french forces worked out how to use trees for cover in rifle battles he ordered his men not to do this and to keep marching in formation out in the open even if they were getting rekt because using cover was le cowardly
>got buttbusted at another commander ordering a retreat because he loved fighting or well ordering other people to fight so much he tried to get him court martialed and ended up dueling him over it
>got buttbusted he couldnt retake new york and had it burned down anyway after his request to do so was rejected and then later pretended he was just kidding that he was obsessed with capturing new york to try and throw the british off after sending 9999 letters about how new york was going to be his epic final battle to make him famous after the war
>fucked up the economy through money printing so much people used 1000 dollar notes for wallpaper and stitched clothes with it it was so worthless like some african shithole
>pretended to be going blind to get out of the political trouble
>hypocrite who called southerns evil rebels for not wanting their whisky taxed after rebelling from britian over taxes
>signed in the wonders of american central banking to make his own land worth more money thus causing the billions of deaths from the ensuing american war economy and the creation of communism and national socialism in reaction to corrupt american capitilism

Cool, so how much did you pay for your education and medical care growing up? Oh the government and your parents provided those. Cool story, welfare queen.

thank you for your service

can i have my tax back?

ok have fun with PTSD from seeing your friends die for saudi arabia, very cool and I wish I was you

You mean your parents' tax, you NEET virgin?

t. captain america

>your parents providing for you makes you a leech
lol. is that the saddest logic you can come up with? why are you so mad?

If you can't be a doctor or a lawyer or anything cruisey and lucrative, learn a trade, if you can't learn a trade, do what used to require conscription to do but now they offer college and medical and homecare

Why do beta pussies, like you, always shit on anything masculine or warrior like? Do you faggots not realize that because of limp-wristed pussies, like you, our nation NEEDS dudes like me and my bro's to train and kill the enemies of our nation?

Sandniggers will cut your head off with a steak knife with zero fucks given, and niggers in Africa will kill you and eat your heart, which is exactly why we still NEED warriors willing and able to kill them, because pussies like you can't, or won't.

Just kys already.

>We killed more sandniggers than cancer.
That's not saying much. The suicide belts usually get them before cancer.

>defeated the, arguably, most powerful military on the planet of his day with a bunch of local militia

That pretty much negates all your bullshit, including the bullshit from the French and Indian war where he was just a total noob.

Xhe's mad because xhe's a tranny and can't get in the military and get a big dicked GI bf

I want to believe

I sleep like a baby every night, eunuch.

You mean the reserves of the reserves?

yeah you sound like you're a real chill guy who doesn't have horrible mental illness

Actually, I'm mad because so many of you faggots have been raised by single mothers to be cowardly little submissive bitches. You faggots would shit yourselves if you had to butcher an animal for meat, let alone fight somebody trying to kill you.

You make me sick.

You mad bro?

Bruh, I'm on your side. Was talking about the crybaby, not you. Chill out.

Sure, when you're a submissive little faggot, like you, any sign of natural male assertiveness probably seems like a "horrible mental illness".

Little bitch.

>Reasoning with a literal crybaby
Why bother?

>assertiveness

yeah you're really asserting some mental illness over here

>tfw watching that mentally ill "military" guy in this thread
This is fun

Says the bitch....

You have no idea most LT's get lost a lot, but won't admit it and blame their platoon for their incompetence.

>most LT's get lost a lot

No, they don't. Because they have squad leaders and platoon sergeants that do the navigating.

Do you miss your Iraqi boypussi? Is that the problem?
Poor guy

Is this cuck mentality??

maybe you shouldve studied in school instead of needing welfare then hating everyone who was successful as "bitches" cause they lived happy healthy safe lives

yes goy. being a doctor and a lawyer is for cuckolds. please do not ever try and be one.

Not all the time our PL was in charge of the company convoy and got us lost for 2 hours, CO got mad for putting that much trust in him.

>make 60k/yr and occasionally even use my braincells as an aircraft technician in the Leafistan Chair Farce
>make more money, eat better food, live in nicer conditions, and generally have an immensely better quality of life than infantards
>still kind of wish I was in the combat arms instead of a POG and get to do cool shit, shoot guns, and brag about how I'm tougher than everyone
An abstract sort of feel

Nah stay in that nice POG life, combat deployments for grunts ain't shit anymore unless you're ranger or SF.

most places youre effectively forced to go to public school due to the hoops private schools have to jump through making them expensive, and using public services doesn't constitute welfare, i love when you idiot grunts get offended about reality, when youll be some of the most privileged vets to ever serve

t. 0351

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What the fuck was his problem?

He's brown

You know what he means... L2s are almost exclusive college ROTCs

You know, I'd like to believe they aren't. I would know, I tried to be a good one.

I was intel. I got out of college with a butter bar. But I transfered in at a junior level after going to a community college. I couldn't take mil 100 or 101. But I did my interview, left a good impression and so they processed me and went on about their day. But I needed to catch up. So I had to go to basic camp for 30 days in Kentucky. I did my absolute best. I left a good impression there too.

After passing that, I had the added pressure of having to catch up with my underclassmen and fellow juniors who were looking to commission. I was behind the ball, and trying to prove myself simultaneously. It was hard, but I did it.

This was on top of my pursuit of a bfa in digital media and bs in computer science as well as a minor in history.

But I did it. And I commissioned active duty into humint.

Boy did I not know what I was expecting. I got shit on from above and below. I hated my life. Despite the fact that I struggled through my 20s just getting enough dough together to get my life on track and find purpose and motivation and got a good education, I had to deal with the perception from my NCO's that I was nothing more than a boot, which I suppose was true. But I also had to deal with shit from above, who gave me impossible directives. For example, interviewing shitheads but not actually getting serious with them, because of hearts and minds.

Overall, its not that we're incompetent. We just don't give a shit after a while.

>one of only two competent officers
>has less screen time than nearly every other character

In ROTC atm, just finished a CULP mission. Any advice about Advanced Camp? Im going into my 3rd year, soI have Advanced Camp (LDAC or whatever it was called in your day). Also, is Humint really that bad? I'm thinking of Commissioning Intel, branch detailing Infantry.

Did he love or hate white people?
I think the "hearts and minds" shit is a big reason why enlisted hate officers. It sounds fake, it sounds like propaganda, it sounds like we're being bullshitted. Sounds pretty shitty, I'm not too excited about becoming a Master Corporal, since it's also one of those "get shit on from both sides" ranks.

did that angry guy go and get drunk and cry?

But I'm an accountant who earned his degree via GI Bill.

Thanks for paying your taxes.

According to the book all that was part of gen. Mattis' plan, they just didn't want to inform the troops about it.

Lol

>always fantasized about being a Ranger growing up
>know that there's absolutely no way in hell I'd make it

HAH

welfare queens

Depends on who promotes them.

You can determine the beginning and ends of an officer by the man who promoted him.

> begins and ends like a bitch
> promoted by some diversity cuck hire.
> begins and ends like a man
> promoted by a man like him and / or himself.

At least as a Britbong yeah some are.

If you go inf/guards you can see some real 'horsie' type ruperts. The kind of officers you think of when you imagine a 'lets go chaps!' officer.

They're harmless really but lack a lot of common sense since it's usually their first time associating with 'common people'.

>defeated the, arguably, most powerful military on the planet of his day with a bunch of local militia
I think you mean the French fleet, and Prussians officers, and Dutch money

Mfw my captain is sitting on my leave form and it starts in 2 days.
Listen you paunchy fuck, i was given those days to take so let me fucking take them.

>tfw no frudy rudy to take care of you

It's made clear in the show that they are usually operating as small recon units with quite some autonomy. So when they invaded Irak they do it with humvees as to not be left behind in what would a blitzkrieg and they bring all their inexperienced pog officers with them who end up in charge because of hierarchy.

>sorry it got "lost" behind my desk
:^)))

>whats maneuver warfare?

Just like any organization, theyre are some people that excel at what they do, and others that dont.

Then, theres all the political involved. Godfather wants to show off to his one up. Encino man wants to show off to Godfather. The other Captain was just fucked up and carried out orders. The only guys who werent sucking on another's ballbag was the LT and the other Capt that looked vaguely like Encino.

Damn, forgot based Doug was in this show. Need to rewatch...

Maybe in USA.

Some are, most are cunts unless they were infantry to start off with. It takes a special kind of cunt to want to be an officer, and 80% of the time its women.

So I spent a cumulative 5 years and 122 days in the ME between 2001 and 2011, infantry in the 2001 invasion of afghanistan and intelligence/psyops from 03 onwards. Because of the nature of what I was doing post 03, I was moving between areas and often coming out to meet with locals and trying to win over people of importance within the local communities, so I was often traveling with a small team to various far flung areas. Usually we'd travel to a nearby FOB or similar and tag along with a patrol. Through this I saw all officers of all quality in various situations.

In my experience, many officers were pretty bad, especially in the early phases of both Afghanistan and Iraq. One thing about Generation Kill that I really agree with is the statement on how hard it is sending men into battle. I made a lot of choices, killed a lot of people (3 personally, many, many more via orders I gave) but the one thing that I really had trouble with was leading men in combat in the afghan invasion. I wasn't scared for myself and certainly had no qualms about the enemy, and I had accepted that putting my men in danger was apart of what we were there for. But the idea of making a mistake and getting them injured or killed honestly made me feel sick a few times, and I've seen plenty get trapped second guessing themselves and panic. Its easier once things kick off, but before the situation its definitely a difficult issue to deal with. 03 was a clustfuck. Lot of morons, especially in the US forces that joined up after 9/11 and were still pretty green.

06-09 were the shit.

>he has no skills
>he has no knowledge
>the only thing he can offer society is his life and even that is worthless
>goes to sandnigger country to have a shit time not doing anything at all and wasting away in the desert shithole like the impotent cuck he is
>comes back
>girlfriend fucked everyone in town
>realizes he wasted his life being the ultimate cuckold
>a-at least i'm not a b-beta male like a d-doctor or l-lawyer
>thank god i haven't achieved anything in life unlike those c-cucks