>Netflix/BBC production
>Troy: Fall of a City
Thoughts?
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MOVIE SET IN NAZI GERMANY WITH ALL BLACK CAST URKEL AS HITLER
Don't blacks ever feel ashamed of this?
If my people had no history, no meaningful literature, no repository of myth from which to draw their own stories from and had to rely on the handouts of mistellings of other people's stories, then I'd feel legitimately ashamed.
>An entire generation will grow up legitimately thinking that most european historical and heroic figures were sub-saharan africans
A lot of them genuinely believe they were Ancient Greeks.
If you want to actually make a difference, send this to your local diaspora Greek organization, they'll be super pissed.
WUZ
I find this all the more hilarious because my girlfriend is Greek and hates niggers
AYO WE FROM THE HEAVENS AND SHIT BOI
i hope hector is played by a white man so we can see black achilles brutally destroy him and dragging his naked body through the sand from a horse drawn carriage
>Country 90%White
>This is representational
At least all the sexy girls are white...
>If my people had no history,
did all these african tribes even have writing systems?
greeks and others had their shit written down thousands of years ago, so, what about the africans south of egypt? what about their history and mythologies?
I don't get. Are they doing it in rap or something, like that Hamilton play?
Nicholas Taleb (author of the Black Swan) recently got into an argument with a retarded historian called Mary Beard about this very subject. Beard asserted that a "typical family" in Roman Britain included a black father, Taleb proved her wrong with population genetics. Beard got butthurt and her liberal acolytes started harassing Taleb, but Taleb, being a med HOT HEAD didn't give a fuck and continued trolling them all.
His main point was that "diversity" in Roman settings should primarily be about med people and western/northern european people, and shouldn't really include blacks at all - since they were few and far between.
>On another occasion, when he was returning to his nearest quarters from an inspection of the wall at Luguvallum in Britain, at a time when he had not only proved victorious but had concluded a perpetual peace, just as he was wondering what omen would present itself, an Ethiopian soldier, who was famous among buffoons and always a notable jester, met him with a garland of cypress-boughs. And when Severus in a rage ordered that the man be removed from his sight, troubled as he was by the man's ominous colour
>Historia Augusta
He'll be portrayed as evil for killing Patroklos. They're going to make the most sympathetic character evil for Virtue points.
This is Briseis, aka Achilles' rape trophy, so that'll be fun.
>At least all the sexy girls are white...
So it's literally going to be a black guy fucking tonnes of white girls and all the white girls craving his dick?
lmao.
I wish they'd just be honest and admit they're doing this systematically to fuck with people's perception of the past. What irritates me more than anything is when they pretend it's just some whimsical thing.
>yfw the bbc passes it as historically accurate
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Check it out, none of the women are Black or even non British. It's actually pretty funny
The same thing happened with that idiot Paul Jospeh Watson and even bigger idiot on twitter.
The Bigger Idiot "totally destroyed" the smaller idiot by demonstrating that an extremely small percentage of the Roman population occupying Britain contained North African lineage - there for Roman Britain was filled with sub-saharan Africans.
Followed by "Fucking dumb nazi idiot. Fuck you. *drops mic*" tier responses.
Why is this even an issue anyway?
Why do they so badly want to appropriate another people's culture instead of celebrating or learning about their own?
>Black people's say while people have no culture and that we're lame
>They backwash our culture
...What did THEY mean by this?
looks like Gucci Mane
Why aren't they Greek or Med women?
In the post Mel Gibson era this shit is annoying. Even if it's about fairy tales.
Cast wogs speaking wog.
It's doubly funny as sub-saharan african admixture in North Africa actually increased significantly as a result of the Arab slave trade and conquest, see:
>Yo, gimme you culture
>Haha, how come you don't have a culture
Pretty much this
Exactly. No one would give a shit if it were a Western Anatolian Turk or even a Levantine cast in some of the leading roles.
>no kweenz Aphrodite and Helen
Do you guys think we could somehow boycott this and start some sort of shitstorm over it?
This isn't even funny anymore.
>Even if it's about fairy tales.
The Trojan War really did happen. Obviously the epics that followed greatly exaggerate aspects of it, but it was a real historical event. Archaeology has all but proven that.
that just gives them what they want, but don't worry, even if no one complains they'll still blame it on racist white audiences when this shit flops
Your best bet is to get local s. european diaspora organizations involved.
Why should their history be brutalized in the interests of placating blacks in the anglosphere?
Note that this was almost certainly a reaction to the bellyaching about how Downton Abbey, Wolf Hall, War & Peace etc were all "too white".
Watch it crash and burn and then lol. The funniest thing is the most marketable English cultural products in East Asia are all 100% white.
>Note that this was almost certainly a reaction to the bellyaching about how Downton Abbey, Wolf Hall, War & Peace etc were all "too white".
being historically accurate is racist now?
Who's playing Basketballius?
>Paris, Ajax, Priam, and Agamemnon are all white
But why is Menelaus not listed?
M8, if we don't, the BBC and Netflix will just invent a boycott to drum up publicity
>See the mediocre TV mini series the Alt Right Neo Nazi White Sharia Terrorists Don't Want You To See!
Where have you been for the last five years?
Facts, historic or scientific, are both racist and sexist.
Yes, British History should represent the British present, and that means catering to all the bellyaching.
>I can't identify with Thomas More unless he's Thomas Moor, but I'm totally British and color doesn't matter, unless it's not mine
Just drop the "X isn't racist" crap. They've already got you in a rhetorical trap where you are forced to be constantly defensive.
6 million jews die.
Urkel Hitler: Did I do that?
Speaking as a Greek (in before Turk rapebaby etc), this is the end result of letting them into your country and basically handing over your identity to them. Now they can claim British literature and culture in its entirety, from Bede to Shakespeare to Conan-Doyle, while also holding on to their racial identity - while conversely you guys can't adopt a racial identity of your own since anything exclusive to it has been appropriated (quite literally) by this wave of "new Brits" and their "civic identity".
I've always noticed it's always the worst races who demand that they be accepted as "one of the natives", and in spite of this, they're always the most dysfunctional, the least like what we non western-europeans would imagine as a real Englishman etc.
Just isolate yourself from this shit culture in its entirety.
>When you're so pozzed, even your Nazis are MultiKulti
that's only a fraction of the problem
culture is mostly taught by the father
>literally called BBC
well, rip in feces Britain
i get them being butthurt over not getting represented in original scripts, but shoehorning their races into historical plots!? wtf.
what's next? queen victoria twerking, henry 5th hitting the blunt?
>culture is mostly taught by the father
Oh yeah, the difference between mulattoes with a white father and a black (absent) father is huge. Not even meme'ing, the most resentful ones are always those with a black father.
And Troy's cast was filled with anglos, I don't see the difference.
>b-b-but we wuz and dey wuzn't!!!
Fuck off white boys
>Filled with Anglo's
+ token wog.
>And Troy's cast was filled with anglos, I don't see the difference.
Really? I am Greek and I can clearly see there's a bigger gap between casting a Western European actor/actress and casting a full on sub-saharan black. Of course we'd like to see more Greeks/Italians in the cast, but it's not a big deal - if you have 50% of the cast as Black Africans then it is downright insulting.
Pic related, Greek-Canadian actress. Could easily pass for French or British.
No two Races are ever going to be more distinct than a Black person and a Race of any other color.
A white person can pass for a Greek. Also, I do get annoyed whenever something roman isn't done by Meds. Also, when they have British accents
>I don't see the difference.
So there would be no difference between a western Romance of the Three Kingdoms production casting a few Japanese and Korean actors and a western production making 50% of the cast, including all of the sworn brothers, as Nigerians?
>Also, I do get annoyed whenever something roman isn't done by Meds.
No one here gives a fuck, honestly. We expect a British production to feature a prevalence of Anglos, but making Zeus and Achilles and Patroclus black is just insulting.
Would have been cool to have an Italian as Aeneas though.
I find the British accent thing hilarious, but I see why they did it when the audineces were mostly Anglo.
Helps you distinguish between types of people (Cockney or Northern accents for plebs and barbarians, RP for dignified or civlized people etc).
It was weird when they made a point to mention that Maximus in Gladiator was Spanish, but they didn't really distinguish him in any way from the other Wogs.
Underrated
>It was weird when they made a point to mention that Maximus in Gladiator was Spanish
There were a lot of Italian colonies in Spain in the classical period and some quite famous Emperors (eg Trajan) came from these colonies.
Yeah, but I got the impression he was meant to be a native Latin that rose up through the ranks.
Then again, since they never specify it, maybe not.
>a white person can pass for a Greek.
nah that's your culture appropriating ass speaking, you know like the thing you're complaining about?
If it's not race accurate in the first place, why you care? It's not even your british culture that's being threatened. But just because the renaissance was influenced by ancient Greece you've made it part of Western Culture and you're being personally offended.Hypocrisy to the max, claiming the achievement of another civilazation as your own. Every ancient greek's spiritual trip was to Egypt not Manchester.
Finally, good actors can do justice to the characters they're playing no matter the race, age or gender. Would you believe that the female parts were being played by men in ancient Greece? Damn this not accurate casting!
Absolutely retarded, fuck them.
>"diversity" in Roman settings should primarily be about med people and western/northern european people
Such ignorance. Rome had so much diversity, and it wasn't because of the Nordics, but because Sabini, Latini, Etruschi, Umbri and so many more different people lived in the zone.
It doesn't make sense for Aeneas to be black
His mom, Aphrodite, is white, and Priam is white. Aeneas's dad Anchises is the half brother of Priam, so at most Aeneas would be 25% black. But that also doesn't make sense. For that to work Anchises mom Capys would have to be 100% black. Her dad was the son of the founder of Troy, whose lineage leads to Priam, so he can't be black, and her mom was a naiad, and daughter of a River God. Am I supposed to believe a river God and a naiad are black? I don't, but even if they are 100% black that would only make Aeneas 12.5% black. I DONT FUCKING THINK SO.
>celebrating or learning about their own?
So lack of wheel and tribal genocide?
Greeks are white you mongoloid.
I'm Anglo and when I tan and grow my beard I can pass for Greek.
I know this because my Greek girlfriend passed me off as a Greek to her parents for 6 months because she knew they would not approve of her dating a non-Greek.
when logic is racist, adjust logic.
>nah that's your culture appropriating ass speaking
I am Greek. I'm not sure what you want me to say?
We don't identify with you dude. It's true that a lot of Greeks are kind of butthurt towards just about everyone ("us against the world") but most Greeks genuinely believe themselves to be white/european and identify as such, and as a result we'd rather our history be associated with other European actors than Black actors, if it comes down to a choice between the two.
>But just because the renaissance was influenced by ancient Greece you've made it part of Western Culture
It was always a part of Western Culture.
Roman law, the use of Latin and Greek as lingua franca in parts of Europe, the impact of Greek philosophy on Christianity, the impact of Greek art and architecture... All of these things are Medieval, not Renaissance.
>Every ancient greek's spiritual trip was to Egypt not Manchester.
lol @ accepting a snippet of Herodotus as bona fide truth when you've never read him in translation, let alone in classical Greek.
>Finally, good actors can do justice to the characters they're playing no matter the race, age or gender.
That's right. That's why we should perform RottK with a 50% nordic cast.
Genetics are racist. Two white people can have a 100% Black Baby, and two Black people can have a 100% White baby
Greeks are white.
>Finally, good actors can do justice to the characters they're playing no matter the race, age or gender.
Then why did they have to ban a TV show in which Joseph Fiennes played Michael Jackson?
Would you believe that white men played black men in modern America?
>But just because the renaissance was influenced by ancient Greece you've made it part of Western Culture
Wish you would tell the Greeks. They never shut up about inventing and/or saving Western Civilization.
>Rome had so much diversity, and it wasn't because of the Nordics, but because Sabini, Latini, Etruschi, Umbri and so many more different people lived in the zone.
I'm speaking in broad strokes here. When Taleb say "med" he means all of the Italic peoples plus mountain berbers, near eastern people like Phoenicians etc.
Even within the Celts there is a lot of diversity. That is something that could be explored.
Also there is an Ethiopian hero in the Iliad, no one would care if a black guy had been cast in that role. But they decided to blackwash half of the Greek pantheon instead.
>I know this because my Greek girlfriend passed me off as a Greek to her parents for 6 months because she knew they would not approve of her dating a non-Greek.
My sister had to do something similar.
You should count yourself lucky. Greek families will eventually accept a non-Greek European, but if you're not European descent it's unlikely they'd fully accept you.
>Aeneas
>forefather of Romulus and Remus, founders of Rome
>Rome's founders were black
why do you caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare
Her dad once told me "eh you're not bad for a foreigner"
I expect that's the nicest thing he'll ever say about me.
He'll come around in time m8, trust me.
I just figured it out for real. The naiad is the sister of the founder of Troy's father, who has to be white, which means she is white, which means Aeneas is 0% black.
The map is bullshit. Italians always rank higher than most European states for negative views on blacks and muslims.
>Greeks are white you mongoloid.
Yeah whenever you're stealing history Greeks suddenly become white. Fuck off.
Oxi neofilele greke den ''anikomen eis tin disin'' epeidi kapoioi se thelan na gineis me to zori eurwpaios. Ama psonizesai na vlepeis to Brand Pitt kai ton Butler na sou kanoun tous ellinarades na anexteis kai ton arapi pou stin xalaei. Ithopioi einai mporoun na paiksoun mythologika proswpa.
>lmao why do u care about a systematic propaganda effort to make western youth believe that every other prominent figure in western history was black?
wtf is up with hollywood and roman/greek mythology. you would think they would try using stories from other parts of the world. haven't we drained that shit dry already.
Give me some of that crazy shit like Kali.
or that god and goddess where if they fuck a big bang happens and the world is destoryed
so we gonna see another blacked episode in this show.
I think "you're ok" was his coming around.
Should probably mention they're Cypriot which I notice is a darker red in all categories on the map you posted.
>Of course we'd like to see more Greeks/Italians in the cast
we don't know what Greeks/Italians looked like in ancient times very well. whether they were as dark featured is debatable, many prominent Romans had blue/grey eyes and blonde/red hair for instance.
so i don't know if casting Brad Pitt as Achilles was complete bullshit or not, it's hard to say.
t. grekili / neokiprioi
>we
It's plausible they'll play up the homo stuff with patroclus, which makes blacks go apeshit usually (pun intended).
>Ithopioi einai mporoun na paiksoun mythologika proswpa.
>"Because Memnon (a minor figure) was Ethiopian, that means making Zeus, Achilles and half of the cast black makes sense"
>"Similarly, a Swede can play the Yellow Emperor or any of China's other culture-heroes, it's not like these are ethnic religions or anything"
A+ logic my Syriza-voting friend.
>race of thieves
>ashamed of stealing someone culture and history
Wew lad
Where does the notion come from that Greeks 2000 years ago were niggers?
I can only imagine white women watching this
literal waterfall between their legs.
Rome was "diverse" in the sense they conquered parts of North Africa, but those people stayed there (mostly, if they weren't slaved or used in arenas, you get the idea) but they certainly were not liberal, marxist, multicultural family type of """"""""""diverse""""""""""2
>BBC production
Bongs are paying for this.
>posts pic without sources
Cultural marxism sees established culture as oppressive and minority as something that needs to be freed from oppression.
Read Frankfurt School, especially Marcuse and Adorno, to understand why historical facts are being eroded.
Stop embarrassing us you fucking cunt. Go shoot up some heroin in exarcheia and leave the civilized, industrious people of the Greek diaspora alone.
No doubt. People forget that this was a period of history were 90% of people were sedentary subsistence farmers, and most of the other 10% were tied to local cities and towns in sedentary trades.
The idea of huge classes of people moving around purely for economic reasons is a post-industrial concept.
I wouldn't be surprised if they made a movie about black vikings at this point.
Fucking everyone was black according to Hollywood and the BBC.
Fellow accelerationist or just a cuck? Either way, lantern jawed harpy white women gotta go. We need more KANGS kino.
on the plus side once they've made black history white history we don't need to feel guilty for the Holocaust or the crusades or slavery anymore.
>Yeah whenever you're stealing history Greeks suddenly become white. Fuck off.
GREEKS WERE CLEARLY BLACK MEN
>Thoughts?
ay yo love me some kangs but yall gotta out do this otherwise dont mean nothin gnome saiyan?
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>Yeah whenever you're stealing history Greeks suddenly become white. Fuck off.
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HANDSOME!!!
Blacks as a hunter-gatherer group were few in population in those times, especially around the Sub-Saharan areas where climate makes it impossible to thrive in terms of population numbers.
To argue there were blacks in those times anywhere near Anatolia when they were isolated by the Sahara, when their numbers were mostly congregated towards the Central-Western parts of Africa and some Eastern parts far away from the meds where climate and nature allowed larger population sustenance; is to argue from a perspective of not only historical ignorance, but also ignorance of all DNA archeology and tracing, science itself, as well as basic logic and critical thinking.
Takes a complete cerebral shutdown.
On the other hand
>trying to mess with Greek history with the racial justice shit
>a people who have just come out of 4 centuries of oppressive Ottoman rules, not to mention Roman oppression before that
>a people who are still trying to find their identity
BBC has finally started stuffing its hands into a beehive by fuckign with Med people with their social justice shit.
This won't end well for them.
Remember there is no such thing as white people.