Why so few babies, Europe?

Why so few babies, Europe?

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Based Sweden will soon be filled by SMÅLANDERS and we will impregnate the dirty swedoids

We're busy sucking cocks

>smålanders want to impregnate this

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intelligent people dont make children if they are poor

meme answer would be degeneracy XD
serious answer is lack of policy for women that want children. Thankfully our new prime minister want to fix that.

>Most of Sweden is above replacement rate

This can't be happening!

Consider population density. Most Swedes live in the lower fertility belt and which is filled with immigrants so the actual Swedish fertility is even lower there.

It's green for the same reason Paris and Marseilles are green on that map. I reckon you can figure out why. :^) (^:

Who the fuck wants to have kids? You gotta be pretty retarded letting your life be robbed like this on purpose, reason of life is having the maximum pleasure you can until you die

condoms and abortions are cheaper

The traditional family is dying out, which means less children are being born.

No thanks

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JUST

You guys are obsessed with Sweden

Government intervention. The legalization of abortion, arbitrary women in the workforce measures, state pensions and the modern divorce system all create a scenario in which those who have children (especially men) are punished instead of rewarded. Of course it would be political suicide for any Western government to actually solve these problems, so instead they try and fail to plug the hole through replacement migration.

>1.5m people
>lowest fertility rate in the world
>not even immigrants are having babies
Who wants to come to Sardinia and help procreate more? We need help

There is nobody to take care of the kids.
Women now work, parents live separately from their married children.
Nannies are expansive.
Nobody will put their carrier on hold at 25 to change diapers.
Sacrifices have to be made and nobody cares enough about the little shit factories to make them.

You basically summed it up.

kek same here.
First generation immigrants produce babies like crazy, but second generation immigrants have the lowest fertility rates of all, even way below natives. Noone really knows why.
Something about Europe makes people want to have no babies.

You're obsessed with Finland gypsylord

Can someone explain to me why declining birth rates are bad?
The obvious answers would be immigrants replacing us, and young people having to pay welfare for an aging population.
Both of these things could be solved by with stricter immigration policies (which Europe desperately needs right now anyway), and a more Liberal approach to welfare (aka less gibs).

>Can someone explain to me why declining birth rates are bad?

Because there is no chance of

>stricter immigration policies (which Europe desperately needs right now anyway), and a more Liberal approach to welfare (aka less gibs).

happening.

Someone has to work to provide money to give out for retirement.

Japan contradicts basically all your points.

Except they don't, Jean-Mamadou al-Frankistani. They just aren't ethnically committing suicide.

And there is infinitely less of a chance of everyone going back to a pre-industrial family model, with men and women splitting up their tasks again, which in my opinion is the only sensible way birth rates could rise again.

That's actually true, which is why I'm advocating for less welfare. Let the geezers save up on their own retirement like they do in the US.

Dunno what happened with Italy. They used to have such a high birthrate that the excess population were dumped off in the US and South America.

Italian women don't have wide hips so giving birth is extra painful for them

>Let the geezers save up on their own retirement like they do in the US
That stopped happening in 1936, Luigi.

High fertility rate is bad for economy in the future.

>poor countries actually have worse childrate
I thought the meme was rich degenrancy was killing our fertility rate?

Småland 4 ever

For what purpose?

Unemployment and poverty, you know it's expensive to raise a child.

And yet the most poor and impoverished groups are reproducing faster than the rich. Otherwise France's immigrants that are about to replace the majority wouldn't come from Africa but Taiwan.

The 1960s economic boom happened, along with Gommunism and feminism.
The record low recently is most likely because of the economic crisis.

I bet a nation of gay mongoloids would know about population crisis

I apologize, I did not know that. I only ever see Americans talking about company-wide or individual pension plans, so i assume public retirement is only partially subsidized in the US?

Sardinian culture

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Because children are loud and annoying. I'm glad there's less of them around.

Did you look at the map though? The richest parts of europe are breeding more.
This is obviously not true, unemployment rate is not nearly big enough to warrant this andit's expensive to raise a child , but third world countries manage it.

I think something happened with euro culture where people think they require some special amount of money to afford a child. It seems while buying power is extremely high in comparison to other places, that people feel the need to buy many more things.
Vai via pollo

Italy is the number one producer of gay erotica or so my Swedish friend says

Having children is a sacrifice. And I think most rich people hate sacrifice. Its anathema to them.
For the poor they are used to sacrificing. But for the rich it is something horrific.

This is as far as I can tell.

>The richest parts of europe are breeding more
Which also happen to be teh mot migrant infested parts. Try thinking a little, mate.

>Having children is a sacrifice.
No, you moron. It's an investment. The problem is that the modern pension system is a walking contradiction: on the one hand it makes the older generation more dependent on the younger generations than ever, on the other hand it severed the direct (visible) connection between having children and having cozy golden years. There's a reason why it's expected our generation will have to work until at least age 71. Your average medieval farmer in a multigenrational household with 6 children could kick back and enjoy his old days starting at age 60, because each of the children would contribute a fraction of their income to pa's upkeep.

We love praising the welfare state, but all it did was introduce a highly inefficient middle man, at the detriment of the providing side of the agreement.

I'm so happy my ethnicity is going extinct and I'm helping them disappear

But an African Italy will be even worse

Except they do. Most of Japanese women don't work, and those who do are kicked out of their company as soon as they have a child
Japanese pension are low.
Divorce rate is extremely low and it's heavily frown upon, and almost no chil is born out of marriage.
And yet it's one of the lowest birthrate in the world.

I'm so happy I'm speechless, finally no more of us

>Most of Japanese women don't work
data.worldbank.org/indicator/SL.TLF.CACT.FE.ZS
Except they're exactly 50% of the workforce.
>and those who do are kicked out of their company as soon as they have a child
Except that's no longer the case, nigger. They've had equal pay legislation since 1947 and the practice you talk about disappeared in the 60s. It's still a cultural expectation in Japan, but not one that can be enforced by law. This discrepancy may be a reason why Japanese women CHOOSE to not have children though.
>Japanese pensions are low
Compared to what, the socialist paradise that is France? Objectively speaking they're not low at all.
>Divorce rate is extremely low
factsanddetails.com/japan/cat18/sub117/item616.html
Lower than in France, but 1/3 isn't low by any objective measure.
>And yet it's one of the lowest birthrate in the world.
It's entirely on par with Western Europe, if you exclude third world welfare collectors replacing the native population. Hell, even including migrants it's higher than Germany's.
bbc.com/news/world-europe-32929962
Germany did catch up to Japan very recently. 2015 also happens to be the beginning of the refugee crisis and the year in which Germany took in over 1 million refugees. HMMMMMMMMMMM.......

tl;dr: Watch less anime, read more statistics.

>il piddino rivela le sue vere intenzioni

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i want to have kids but i have no gf

kys grillino

>Compared to what, the socialist paradise that is France? Objectively speaking they're not low at all.
The elder generation in Japan are pretty damn rich thanks to having spent their working years during the boomtime in the 60s-80s. It's the young people who are broke.

Just read an article about 20% of danish men who are 50 years old have not fathered a child. For women of course its lower because of >muh sperm donor. Scary reading.

post ww2 babyboom, housing crisis, work culture, non-religiousity, legalization of abortion, acceptance of homosexuality and individualism

oh, and urbanization. that should be all

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Only 20%? C'mon step it up!
So what? wabalubadabdab anyway if you care so much about the human race others will repopulate the island

nah, they are a factor of course, but according to this
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Europe
the difference between italy and norway(which is pretty big as far as non ex USSr europe goes ) is only 4.4%. That doesn't cut it, the difference is too big to be made only by that 4.4% of population.

I think 20% is too much. In my apartment building we are 5 guys living on the same floor and thinking about how one of us is not going to be a father is scary to me.

We are better at sex. And life in general

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"Immigrant" is a very vague term stats love to play with. Ethnic stats, where available, are the best fit.

That, and total numbers aren't the whole story. It's fertility. There's a big reason why France's Muslim population is predicted to jump from 10% to 30% according to PEW. If the native population is shrinking, Muzzies only need slow but steady growth in order to double as a percentage of the population.

Yes it should be all five or four at least!

Life is shit and it will get shittier. If you want to do your unborn children a favor, never reproduce.

>I think something happened with euro culture where people think they require some special amount of money to afford a child. It seems while buying power is extremely high in comparison to other places, that people feel the need to buy many more things.

You kinda got it, try to read Gilles Lipovetsky - "Le bonheur paradoxal: essai sur la société d'hyperconsommation" (the Paradoxal happiness, not sure for the English ttitle). People are turned in controlled consumerists that have only one real goal - to consume more. The truth is that children are expensive and require a lot of time. Time that people today want (or are forced) to spend consuming stuff - buying new jeans, designer sunglasess, investing in crypto gear, or enjoying a holiday on a Mediterranean island or just making a trip to another country with a low-cost airline. Rich people do have more children, by the way. Not everyone does, but most do. At least these are my observations in my country. But even they are just consumers, it's just that they have to consume stuff that is on another scale. People today are the forced to be the perfect egoists. Of course, the whole consumerist system would not function if there is no one to consume. Not to mention that the market systems as we know them today have a problem with the declining population. It is why (((they))) import people. And they don't care if they are white or black. If we want to reverse these, we have to step away from liberalism and the modern hyperconsumerism.

A few houndred thousand kara bogas have been deployed to help the cause

Because they can't afford to have any. The government won't help them. The ZOG governments are busy helping brown and black people.

Hedonism, good times make weak hedonist ppl

American culture happened aka la calamidad

hold on, im comin over