Do Russians actually believe that they live in a democracy?
Do Russians actually believe that they live in a democracy?
Colton Wood
Connor Roberts
Feels good that I live in far better country than them.
Lincoln Russell
I am Volga Turkish
Isaac White
>Do Russians actually believe that they live in a democracy?
They don't care.
Most of them think democracy = homosexuality = pedophilia.
Jason Morales
No, most Russians are convinced that democracy is fake.
Oliver Martin
Why are westerners so fucking obsessed with Russia?
Ayden Sullivan
Well, what things can you do that I can't?
Joseph Taylor
vote for different parties
Michael Bennett
Because their useful idiots in the West are annoying. And because they're dangerous.
William Allen
I am Volga Greek
Justin Davis
There are eight names on the blank.
Liam Cook
Of course not.
Though Putin would probably win a democratic election anyway.
Nathaniel Phillips
Westerners talk about Putin more often than Russians themselves
Your first thought at ANY issue is not "what is the best of my country" but rather "what does Putin want" as if everything is some Russian conspiracy
Ian Lopez
>world news subreddit during major diplomatic crisis involving Russia
GOSH I WONDER WHY THERES LOTS OF THREADS ABOUT RUSSIA
Jonathan Allen
do you think there was a realistic chance that anybody but Putin would win?
Kevin Parker
news outlets like MSNBC have had reports on Mueller’s investigation running for hours on end even when the news was slow. Blue Americans are legitimately obsessed
Hunter Hill
This. Russians are subhuman.
Jaxon Harris
Speak for yourself mutt
youtube.com
Elijah Nguyen
It's been this way before the poisoning as well. It has been like that since at least 2014, it's just more intense right now.
Same for r/europe. Russia is the most frequently mentioned country in the whole subreddit (again, this map already a couple years old I think). You are obsessed
Henry Baker
No it has been this way since the election and mostly since the Russia investigation
Nolan Bailey
so obsessed
Justin Martinez
It began with the Ukraine conflict
Connor Hernandez
Americans mostly didn’t give a shit until it struck to close to home for them
Connor Richardson
>biggest country in Europe
>major geopolitical threat against the West
b-but please stop mentioning Russia!
Henry Rogers
Well, the way I see it, the majority of voters is over 35 years old, and these people have a one-policy shaped-mind, and no political education, because they lived in USSR, so they vote for Putin.
Other people are too lazy to bother themselves with politics (see working bydlo), and those who vote (intelligence/youths) are split between 7 different parties.
So, no, I don't see another candidate winning, because I don't see any other candidate have such a huge voter base.
Angel Foster
>90% of the news is about Russia
>w-we are not obessed with you
You know, Russia is not the only thing that exists in the world.
Gabriel Turner
And most of them don't know why. Only the minority that reads books knows why democracy is fake.
Jack Walker
>dude the Russians are everywhere
Evan Reyes
don't you think it is a bad thing that people don't get to decide who is in charge?
Ayden James
What about westerners?
Adam Perez
just stop bumping these shitty threads
Christopher Morris
I would love to hear your reason
Angel Rogers
Russia should return to the glorious tsarism, create an Orthodox sphere, conquer Anatolia, expel the Turks to Asia and repopulate the area with Russians, also reconquer Constantinople for Greece.
Matthew Rogers
>implying
Jeremiah Howard
Beg your pardon?
I think I just explained that the majority of the said people vote for certain candidate, therefore they decide who is in charge.
The fact that they are not interested/educated enough to vote for the candidate (You) think is better is not a democracy-related thing.
Andrew Parker
sage with image doesn’t work, fun fact
Joshua King
jesus christ, I'm laughing hard
srsly, what's wrong with murricans?
Thomas Bell
State and Revolution, Ch. 1.3.
Angel Walker
>saging with a picture
what a retard...
Anthony Harris
fugg
Ian Young
Reminds me of that South Park episode with Cartman pretending to be psychic
Nolan Cruz
I think candidates other than Putin are not real candidates.
I think they are merely puppets who play their role so Russia can pretend it has fair elections
Jace Miller
The most disturbing thing is to see people over 60 years old acting as children of 6 years.
Christian Anderson
Well, what can I say, that's a pity, but this is your opinion, and if you don't work for some kind of foreign intelligence/russian government it will remain an opinion, not a fact.
We also got sidetracked a lot.
Nathaniel Anderson
I mean Putin would still win even if they had a real and open democracy.
In reality the Russians that aren't brainwashed see the situation as unavoidable, hopefully in like 8 years a decent amount of the old people who who grew up in the soviet era will be dead and there will be a greater proportion of younger and ideally less likely to buy into bring back muh Russian glory.
But Putin could easily put the propaganda into overdrive and completely ruin Gen-Y.
David Cook
>Eighteen-to-24-year-olds — the youngest group among 1,600 people surveyed in late May — backed Putin more than any other age bracket, at 86 percent
>On campuses, anti-Putin students and faculty members are not only outnumbered, but they face the prospect of being harassed or sidelined for their opposition views, they said
washingtonpost.com
Adam Cook
>I mean Putin would still win even if they had a real and open democracy.
How could you possibly know that? Real and open democracy and Russia are worlds apart.
Ayden James
Putin is the best thing that can happen to the Western World. As long as Putin governs Russia here we will have cheap prostitutes and zero industrial and economic competence.
Charles King
I'm not a Putin shill but the left has really lost their shit over him.
Hunter Allen
>As long as Putin governs Russia here we will have cheap prostitutes and zero industrial and economic competence.
there was a lot more of that before he was president
Henry Hill
people deserve the leader they have
Asher Anderson
>the left
What? Real leftists love Russia and Putin.
American Democrats are right-wing neoliberals.
Brayden Gutierrez
Well the Russians love Putin.
You are right that we'll never know, but even if he let all his opponents run against him their support is too little and spread out to negate his current support.
yea, I remember somebody telling me that.
Russia is pretty fucked aren't they, usually it's the old people who fuck things up politically but in Russia you have a two-fold effect of Putins propaganda on the young people and the desire by the old people to go back to the soviet glory days.
Jackson Evans
I mean, do you really believe that Alexei Navalny was fairly charged and barred from running, for example?
Robert Walker
This. American liberals are the opposite of European leftists. They suck Nato cock
Lucas King
>democracy = homosexuality = pedophilia
That is correct. Who invented democracy? Gay gr*Ek pedophiles
Adrian Garcia
dios mio....
Owen Morales
>Real leftists love Russia and Putin.
Define real leftist. Every feminist and sjw thinks Putin is satan and Russia is hell.
We ARE Nato, dumbass. It works for us.
James Richardson
la luz extinguido...
Nathan Baker
Russians are inferior culturally OP. They don't think or have brains. They do what they are told, even if it's by some manlet who collapses their economy. If the leader says "there is no democracy", then they say "there is no democracy". If some other leader shows up tomorrow and says the opposite, then they will agree with it. All of the Russian scholars left for the West during the Soviet Union period, and all that's left are the nuRussians. It's quite amusing see the place collapse though. Truly the effects of communism still live on
Wyatt Edwards
Stop being so fucking tribal over your internal politics packages. Russia was shitnigger when the American left loved it and it is also now when the American left hates it.
Thomas Sullivan
>Gay gr*Ek pedophiles
You said Greek three times.
Brody Kelly
Do Americans?
Anthony Powell
>even if he let all his opponents run against him their support is too little
The phrase you used was "real and open democracy". That would also mean free press, independent courts and checks on government abuse of power.
Andrew Hernandez
Again, I'm not an intelligence/government worker, so I can't say it's true or not, and my opinion (I consider this situation to be suspicious, yes) doesn't have any real weight in such a conversation.
Jaxon Smith
real leftists like jimmy dore
Gavin Powell
>Russians are inferior culturally OP
>flag
Parker Martinez
I never said it wasn't shit, nigger.
Your reading comprehension is fucking bad.
James Cox
You're a Russian. Of course your opinion doesn't have real weight on anything in Russia. You are there to obey and praise Putin.
Gabriel Gonzalez
>leftism
>SKW/Feminist
The absolute state of mutt politics
Sure sure, I know what you mean.
I was mainly talking about open elections, but it's true that I doubt that Putin would win if he had let his opponents complete freedom for the last decade.
Nathaniel Morgan
>Define real leftist
Jeremy Corbyn and the US Green Party.
>SJWs hate Russia and Putin
No they don't. The twitter SJW crowd believe every single Russian lie about Ukraine being evil Nazis who want eat Russian babies.
Brody Rivera
Dominic Cooper
This:
Aaron Powell
Fanni memes, me liek, here's your (You).
Now fuck off.
Josiah Scott
Cooper James
>SKW
what the fuck is that?
And don't pretend that only the American left has adopted social justice as a tenant. You see it in the european left, latin america, even S.A.
>Corbyn
If you define leftism as communism then okay sure.
>The twitter SJW crowd believe every single Russian lie about Ukraine being evil Nazis who want eat Russian babies.
I don't know who you are following but I've seen the exact opposite.
Charles Ward
HEY GUYS
I FARTED
Charles Price
>impying Merkel didn't get just elected despite being in charge for the last 99 years
Easton Allen
You're legit retarded
What's more is you're also in every thread butthurting about Russia
You pathetic cringy fucking autist
Jack Carter
Aaron Ward
la creatura... dios mio...
Hudson Price
America has no culture
You're a nation of soulless subhumans with no identity
Luis Moore
>plagued
That's a blessing, not a curse.
Jackson Evans
That is quite an innocent comment you're raging against. What triggered you in that comment?
Joseph Allen
>Most of them think democracy = homosexuality = pedophilia.
we never think so deep
Kayden Campbell
>ah democracy
Where did this retarded trend start? When a country is AH governing system, not a country per se
Why isnt China AH communism?
AH dictatorship is supposedly fine, a sub trend it seems.
There isnt a democracy, democracy is democracy, not even THE democracy or democracies just democracy or democracit.
The trend it seems arose from the fucking west, the place full of AH democracies, where fucking english is the most spoken language of all.
Nobody. They had their chance to get shown for their skills and deeds yet a westerner cant name a single candidate except for Putin.
People of Russia voted and elected a president, just because you dont like it doesnt mean they should even listen to you or give a fuck about what you think, its not your choice its theirs. Thats democracy for you you fucking commie
Ryder Adams
I merely mistype a letter.
Leftism is socialism not "muh social justice"
Don't try use your warped and incorrect political definitions for the rest of the world.
The united states barely even has a leftist party.
Jack Torres
>I don't know who you are following but I've seen the exact opposite.
That's very recent and only because of the presidential election shenanigans. It was the other way around before that.
Bentley Gutierrez
*bolshie goroda* starts playing
Blake Morgan
>filename
heh
Xavier Cook
>Leftism is socialism
They are not mutually inclusive you faggot. There are a variety of leftist parties not all of them are socialist. Social democrats for example.
>It was the other way around before that.
No it wasn't, stop cherrypicking shit. Obama told them Putin was the devil and they bought it.
Andrew Cruz
Asher Gray
No.
Do you?
Josiah Williams
nu shto? esho dumaesh shto mõ zdjes vsjo fashishtõ`??? xdD
Levi Carter
>Social democrats for example.
Merely steps towards socialism.
Politics is a spectrum, but the more a government tends towards socialism is the single greatest and most important factor in determining how left the government is.
Jacob Brown
That's what the polls show for general population. You can see the switch there. As for the fringe lefties - they were absolutely loving Russia and cheering Obama when he told Romney that "80s called and they want their foreign policy back".
Here's the quote:
"Gov. Romney, I'm glad you recognize al-Qaida is a threat, because a few months ago when you were asked what is the biggest geopolitical group facing America, you said Russia, not al-Qaida," Obama said. "You said Russia. And the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back. Because the Cold War has been over for 20 years. "
Nolan Rivera
No, Russians in general either hate democracy or just don't care.
Joshua Gonzalez
GOOD post
Sebastian Flores
>[still] esho
you're assuming that I was believing in this in the first place
whatever aizver muti eesti sissy nazi boi xaxaxa
Jackson Campbell
it's been like this since before trump got into office. no one cares about the russians fucking with you fucking rats.