Why don't you like Polando?
Why don't you like Polando?
Levi Reed
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Xavier Rivera
They occupied too much of german land
Isaac Davis
Did you know the holocaust was orchestrated by poles in polish death camps?
Daniel Scott
pola pola~~
Tyler King
But thats belaruse
Nathaniel Bennett
B
Austin Martin
O
Oliver Green
I am physically unable to like a country without a healthy population of French speakers.
Daniel Stewart
>says pidorashka
tell your people to give back Koenigsberg.
Nathaniel Bell
I want to impress our masters(Russia, Germany) so I hate on Poland
Eli Wright
polish death camps
James Hill
They're so Pole-arising.
Juan Morales
Owen Morgan
B-but isn't Sweden your master, Pekka?
Joshua Anderson
The country of Poland fucked up the borders of Europe, enough to lead to a world war and then to take a third of Germany and replacing it with a soviet inbreed culture of Slavic people that is neither their former glory worthy, nor up to the standards of Europe or western culture. We keep hearing talks from academics about how close you are to be a major country, to westernize, to solve the problems of an uncivilized society. But your government gets more corrupt as a write, your people are, while we discuss, active in digging up and stealing the railroad signaling wires, so people can't commute tomorrow, and in the time this thread are alive, statistically five cars and one truck is stolen by a Polish guy. I would love to like Poland, but there's just so much against it. Recently I've gotten a much higher belief in the Czech Republic.
Ayden Martin
>But your government gets more corrupt as a write
it does not, Poland is on average in Europe when it comes to corruption
Ryder Cox
because of poles
Juan Bell
Looks albino
Joshua Taylor
>Why don't you like Polando?
I like Poland, but it's too similar to Germany to be interesting.
Levi Allen
if Poland was really similar to Germany it would be great.
Ethan Sanders
but I do
Nolan Clark
Cuz u gay :DDDD
Connor Cook
Because A Polish girl broke my heart and now i hate all slavs
>tfw my granddad was polish and now hate myself
Its a hard life Sup Forums
Blake Stewart
I like most polish people.
I HATE it's moronic government.
Austin Campbell
why do you think its moronic? Austria has the right-wing government as well
Jonathan Flores
That is moronic is as well petty chest pounding that solves absolutley nothing and just makes an existing problem much worse. You can't convince a bunch of people to assimilate if you make them prepetual outsiders and throw nothing but contempt at them. Here is where Poland does things better than us. You have Tartars, they are perfectly assimilated no? Why can't we do the same thing with our Turks? We have turkish politicans for crying out loud so it's not impossible to make a Turk identitfy with Austria and it's values. I also believe that sabotatging the EU Peace project for short term benefits is the absolute most moronic thing a country can do. You hate Russia? Then why do you like Russias Puppet Orban so much? Because he agrees with you on a few things? Is that so worth it? Wouldn't you rather have a united Europe that would stand with you against Russia?
Polish people agree with me when I talk to them. They aren't hateful to the core, but their government in my opinion encourages people being moronic
Brandon Wilson
Polish and Lithuanian reunification when?
Christian Lee
>Why don't you like Poland
I am Neutral.
William Nelson
>Why can't we do the same thing with our Turks?
Because we have very few Tatars and they have lived here for hundreds of years? Also, they're not fully assimilated, if they were, they would be catholics, they would have Polish names etc., while they still stick to their traditions, they are still muslim, they still have Turkic names etc. It's nothing like assimilation of Slavs in Germany, so children of Polish immigrants in Ruhrgebiete didn't hesitate to join SS and kill Poles.
>I also believe that sabotatging the EU Peace project for short term benefits is the absolute most moronic thing a country can do.
The problem is that our politicians don't trust the EU, because it betrays us any time when it wants (North Stream, posted workers etc.) and it thinks giving us some money would be enough to calm us down.
>Wouldn't you rather have a united Europe that would stand with you against Russia?
It would never do if it was harmful to their interests. That's why Germany is building the pipe under the Baltic Sea. That's why "sanctions" affected Eastern Europe way more than Western Europe (Russia could easily ban import of Polish apples because it produces apples as well but they can't ban import of German cars because they don't produce their own cars of the same quality). Only the USA truly supports us against Russia, because they are ready to sacrifice their own interests to harm Moscow.
>They aren't hateful to the core,
Poles don't hate the EU. We just want the EU to look different than it looks now. We want it to be a loose economic union more like The United States of Europe.
Jaxson Robinson
Bullshit everyone love Poland. Russians and Germans lov us so much they cant stop invading us
Parker Sanders
They didn't get enough. Poland is chemo for the g*rm cancer
Nicholas Martin
Your post is proof that you dont understand grand scale politics.
Current internation policies are reaction to political changes in the world and as a result Poland gov reorient itself from Germany to USA.
Angel Cooper
>Also, they're not fully assimilated, if they were, they would be catholics, they would have Polish names
Are polish pagans, which older than catholicism not integrated? What about poles with germanic or russian surnames?
>The problem is that our politicians don't trust the EU, because it betrays us any time when it wants (North Stream, posted workers etc.) and it thinks giving us some money would be enough to calm us down.
Fine, let's split the desicions west middle and east, a triumvirate of sorts, but you cannot be pushing for ethnonationalism, this is no longer compitable with our countries after ww2
>Poles don't hate the EU
From my experience they don't hate non-europeans either they just have massive sterotypes and are truly afraid. Not the same thing as hate.
>We want it to be a loose economic union more like The United States of Europe
I agree. But do you think a United State would have worked where you have New york pounding on it's chest screaming: "We wuz Dutch-italians n shiet fuck anglo niggers" and Pennsyvania screaming we was Anglo-germanic fuck u Italians SOUTHRONS!" it couldn't have worked. That's why we must reduce the amount of ethnic nationalism, not increase it.
Then explain the factor Orban in this equation
Jordan Thomas
>t. Macron
Angel Rogers
Eques Polonus sum!
Matthew Clark
>Are polish pagans, which older than catholicism not integrated?
Polishness doesn't exist without catholicism. We consider the day when we were baptized the beginning of our country. Pole = catholic.
>What about poles with germanic or russian surnames?
They're all polonized.
>Fine, let's split the desicions west middle and east, a triumvirate of sorts, but you cannot be pushing for ethnonationalism, this is no longer compitable with our countries after ww2
Just tell the EU to respect our rights.
>From my experience they don't hate non-europeans either they just have massive sterotypes and are truly afraid. Not the same thing as hate.
But we don't have many negative stereotypes about the EU, Poles are very pro-EU, the most pro-EU nation in Europe. We just don't like certain things the EU does.
>I agree. But do you think a United State would have worked where you have New york pounding on it's chest screaming: "We wuz Dutch-italians n shiet fuck anglo niggers" and Pennsyvania screaming we was Anglo-germanic fuck u Italians SOUTHRONS!" it couldn't have worked. That's why we must reduce the amount of ethnic nationalism, not increase it.
So your point is to give up on the concept of nations and ethnicities and become "Europeans"? Sorry, it won't work. We DON'T WANT the united states. We want the Europe of nations.
>Then explain the factor Orban in this equation
Orban just makes us sure that the EU won't impose sanctions on us. We pretend to like him but in fact our politicians despise the Hungarian government for inherent corruption:
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Our government is sometimes retarded, but these people really care about Polish interests (as they understand them), not about money.
William Davis
>We DON'T WANT the united states. We want the Europe of nations.
How would a Europe of nations work? Everyone would only think of his own countries intrest. We have this already and it doesn't work.
Jason Torres
>We have this already and it doesn't work
Why do you think it doesn't work? The EU before the refugee crisis was ok. Actually, we just want the economic union, not the political one. Something the EU was supposed to be in the 1950s.
Jonathan Gomez
Orban is a slimy guy that have comepletly diffrent geopoliical situation that Poland.
He is balancing influence between EU and Russia as he pleases so EU cant push him that hard and he supports Poland to gain additional ally against EU and becuase of "muh nationalis" and polish hungarian freindship which give him bonus points in eyes of nationalists.
He can have more flexible aproach to politics than Poland because our course is collision with Germany and Russia in every scenario.
That's why Polish gov is so hellbent on america.
Meanwhile americans just need some junior partner in the are to have some additional leverage against Germany and Russia as well as their own mole in EU. Poland fits here perfectly.
That caouse immense german butthurt becasue they need to protect their own industry by gaining more control over EU as well as geting more cheap work force like more countries in EU or more migrants.
Owen Robinson
>The EU before the refugee crisis was ok
So because of 1 Problem in 60 years you make this much noise? Ok we accepted your position, can we PLEASE now normalize relations? Before we splinter and Russia decides to test if NATO responds?
I see, so it's strategic, not because of shared ideology?
Grayson Peterson
Terrible written language.
Fix that shit and you can be as based as Russian in my book.
Jack Thompson
>We
cringe
Grayson Moore
There is no sharded ideology and some right wing unity is a meme. Most basic fact is that EU can't sucesfully use article 7 on neither of Poland nor Hungary as long as we support eachother.
The rest is just a show for voting groups.
Also ther is bigger alliance of small easter countires that oppose German economic and political domination but only Poland and Hungary are mentioned in the media. The rest just enjoy the ride and be happy that they dont have bad press becuase of it. Their activity mostly shows in votes in EU and some randol words of support from time to time.
Ryder Fisher
Keep kebab out and i will continue loving u
Elijah Scott
> this is no longer compatible with our countries after WW2
You should have thought that before sperging in the most nonsensical manner twice in a row during these times then
> Everyone would only think of his own countries interests.
Where is the negative aspect in that ? Why the contrary is favorable ? You ask the surrender of the independence of each country members, it surprises me beyond scale that a sensible person would think this way. In such a framework the economically, politically and culturally prominent countries will dominate, the exact situation of today's E.U.
>We have this already and it doesn't work
You defend the essential existence of an imaginary E.U., but where will be the profit or interest of the country member if not her rights are represented, you continuously ask the surrender of independence without a compelling reason, this only leads to one country's prominence over the whole union, what exactly Europe is now. Furthermore you require 500.000.000 million people to refuse their ethnic identification and identity interests , with what right could you proclaim such a thing? That was never the goal of the establishment of an European Union.
>So because of 1 Problem in 60 years you make this much noise?
>Ok we accepted your position
>can we PLEASE now normalize relations?
Your way of thinking and behavior already showcases the problem inclined within E.U contradicting what you just said here:
Noah Rodriguez
>Ok we accepted your position
You didn't. You still want to sanction us for not taking the refugees in.
Carter Brooks
>You didn't. You still want to sanction us for not taking the refugees in.
Won't happen and you know it.
Dylan Fisher
What is wrong with you savages?
Robert Murphy
because Hungary will defend us, not because the EU will refuse to bring a case against Poland
now you know why we don't trust the EU
is it our fault that you look like arabs? stop being so swarthy