Why is Japan the lest Sinicized country in the East Asian sphere?

Why is Japan the lest Sinicized country in the East Asian sphere?

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Like you literally use their writing system. Everyone else stopped doing this.

I'm talking about overall culture. Not a couple things they decided to discard the last century.

Even though they don't use Kanji they still use Sino-Vietnamese and Sino-Korean compounds so it makes no sense.

Name one thing about Japan that isn't Chinese influenced.

Tokugawan era autism left you isolated from the world, including China. Before that you were embarrassingly Chinaboo.

>Shintoism
>Shinto and vernacular village architecture
>Vietnam and Korea and China useses brick and stone architecture. Japan is all wood
>Korea and Vietnam has Sino surnames like Li. Japan doesn't
etc

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Japan still loves Chinese historical works and literature. But we don't like What China has become.

Same way you can admire Roman civilization without admiring Italians

Having a class literally refered to as "unhuman" that is forced to perform impure tasks, and are still discriminated against in modern times
Worshiping trees and mountains
Autistic loyalty to leadership to the point of the only way to protest against your lord is by killing yourself
Destruction of all local cultures and dialects
Eating rotten soybeans for breakfast
Absolutely ignoring the philosophy of the Divine Mandate, never overthrowing the emperor (who still uses the title of "son of the heavens") even when he is ruining the country

As you can see (Japanese on far right) Japan was barefoot hairy chad and we tatted out bodies.

Confucian China was horrified by idea of tattoo

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Wouldn't that be Thailand?

what are they doing?

>Shinto

I read somewhere that back in the day there was a purist movement to eliminate foreign influence on Shinto (namely deconstruction of Shinto-Buddhism) and they dug dip enough when they realized a lot of core Shinto stuff is actually related to Taoism, which led to the demise of the purists since there was no such thing as pure Japanese version of Shinto.

>Thailand
>East Asian
Durrrrr

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>The word Shinto (Way of the Gods) was adopted, originally as Jindō[5] or Shindō,[6] from the written Chinese Shendao (神道, pinyin: shén dào),[7][note 2] combining two kanji: shin (神), meaning 'spirit' or kami; and michi (道), 'path', meaning a philosophical path or study (from the Chinese word dào). Shendao refers to Chinese folk religion.

Huh interesting

>Japan
>least sinicized

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The least sinicized East Asian country is Mongolia you fucking idiot

Some JAV from the looks of it.

>Chinese ""culture""

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least doesn't mean completely devoid of you fucking brainlet.
considering there's only 4 countries (3, if you dont consider taiwan a country), being least sinified doesn't mean shit

i'd say most stuff that make up stereotypical japan (sumo, judo/jujtsu, samurai, ninja, sushi, etc)
major components of this quintessential japanese room such as tatami mat and shoji screen only exist in japan as well.

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shinto started as ancient animism. just because the name derives from chinese words, doesn't mean it came from china.

See:

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Korea, Vietnam and many parts of South China have their own native animist/shamanistic religions, unique foods, martial arts, architectural features and so on. You can't quantify "least sinicized".

you dumb fuck Dabido-kun
There is a reason why most old Japanese structures are wooden
stop being a such a fucking faggot and try to think for yourself for a second
what might happen to a fucking stone castle and what might happen to fucking wooden toothpick bitchcastle in case of earthquake

Maybe you misspelled previous day tibet, previous day Sinkiang and Mongolia
They're never using kanji and other than tibet they're literally enemies with china since forever

this.

>Korea and Vietnam has Sino surnames like Li.
Li.

Nici one jap kek

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I always thought you're just Island chinks.

Sushi originated in Southeast Asia

it's from south china, it served as fermented fish

>rigid structure by bricks without compliance
bricks are very weak against the quakes, but that's ok because other cunts have less quakes
The pagoda of Horyuji temple at Nara in Japan is widely acknowledged to be the oldest wooden buildings existing in the world

Oh well I guess sushi isn’t that unique either then

but the japanese don't have that ping-pong-pang style name common in sinosphere, nor does japanese sound like a variation of chinese unlike vietnamese or korean.

>Sushi originated in Southeast Asia
that's not what most people associate with when they think of "sushi" (= edomae zushi) today.

Mongolia is the least because of the fuckin gommies

But it’s not uniquely Japanese if it has origins somewhere else

Mongolian culture is thoroughly TURK’D instead of SINO’D

don't forget TIBET'D

They got MANCHU’D as well and they’re still extremely bitter about it

>A Korean site source

Because I do not understand Korean,
I respect u.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinbutsu_bunri

This is the term that you're looking for.

analogues exist =/= influenced

remember, we are talking about chinese influence on japanese stuff. and in this context it's safe to say sushi wan't influenced by china. this is also evident from the fact that having raw/cold stuff has long been considered to be taboo and barbaric in china (and korea to a lesser extent). you can see those chinese people who still don't drink cold water even today, and eating sushi was said to be barbaric there until relatively recently. this changed after sushi became a thing in the world, especially in the west, and now they're claiming they have similar things. so, the culture to prefer raw/cold stuff which led to sushi can be said to be independent of china.

not an expert on asian history, but I think ninjas originated in china, despite being much more prevalent in japan

As far as I know entire Japan originated in Chinal.

>All those cute jap feet for my viewing pleasure

Thanks op

>so, the culture to prefer raw/cold stuff which led to sushi can be said to be independent of china
I’m pretty sure the ancient Chinese also ate raw fish or something

>raw/cold stuff has long been considered to be taboo and barbaric in china
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuai_(dish)

There we go

seems like the manchus banned it

Parts of Mongolia literally belong to China and is forced to speak mandarin, I think you might be retarded.

Inner Mongolia isn’t the same thing as the sovereign country Mongolia and Mongols as an ethnic group were never sinicized (disregarding their nobility)

90% of East Asia consists of former Chinese protectorates. Hongkong, Macau and Taiwan are basically Chinese provinces with a higher rate of independence at this point.

So your contenders are Korea (protectorate) and Mongolia. It's hard to objectively argue, that they are more sinicized than Japan, considering the lack of a objective metric and that they don't use kanji for example.

i didn't say the chinese have never eaten raw stuff (everybody knows that confucious liked kuai made from corned human flesh for example).
thing is, having raw stuff became a taboo after ming period, and what we know as sushi today became a thing after that, even though sushi as a fermented food had long been eaten in japan and other asian countries independently. so, it's clear that modern sushi isn't a product of chinese influence.

Ninja are a fucking hollywood meme, at least as a clearly distinguishable social cast. There were people from all levels of society having some knowledge in sabotage, espionage and assassination just like there probably were ambush specialists and saboteurs in medieval Europe.
They did not all wear black robes and practice mystical jutsus and bullshit.

Get that anime shit out of your head, Takashi.

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Mongolia is not Confucianist and it has very little Sino-Xenic vocab compared to Japanese which has around 60%. Mongolia is obviously less sinicized than Japan.

>Ninja are a fucking hollywood meme,


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That's a artistic depiction from the late 19th century based on Noh theatre memes, hollywood popularized them.
Outside of the contemporary entertainment industry no one characterized shinobi like that

I never implied that anime/hollywood bullshit is true, but sabotage, espionage and assassination experts were clearly much more common in japan than anywhere else
what I heard and tried to say is that the most common martial arts used by them originated in china

>Precious polychrome woodblock print made in 1853 by the famous master Utagawa Kunisada (歌川国貞) and containing a rare depiction of a ninja (忍者) killer while drawing his sword behind a koto (箏) player.

The work is taken from the series "Color Print Contest of a Modern Genji" (今源氏錦絵合) and is inspired by the twelfth chapter, entitled "Suma" (須磨), of Genji monogatari (源氏物語), one of the masterpieces of Japanese literature.


Yes it is fantasy.

There is no source to suggest that. All these few ninja scrolls seem to be less than legit,fanfiction at best. We don't rally know what and how they trained.

>Why is Japan the lest Sinicized country in the East Asian sphere?
you live on a fucking island you fucking brainlet nip monkey figure it out your self fucking retard

Nearly all East Asian martial arts have a Chinese origin and I don’t know about ninjas

that's irrelevant.
after all, ninja is a secret agent which could have existed in almost every culture, and from this aspect it can be said that it's not unique to japan, and that china could've had an analogue. however, it's japan that created this image and stereotype which influenced and inspired western weabs to churn out the "ninja" stuff. so it's definitely a thing which japan invented or which originated in japan.

Think you're forgetting someone friend

What they’re saying is that it’s not a historical or cultural thing. Any country can make up crap and export it as pop culture.

ninja is definitely a historical thing, though modern depiction is embellished to some extent.

>modern depiction is embellished to some extent.
That’s an understatement

Mongolia is a meme buffer state that the USSR ripped out of Qing China, so of course it doesn't seem as sinicized. The Mongols in Mongolia acually don't even use the traditional Mongolian alphabet, they use Russian cryllic. There are more Mongolians in Chinese Inner Mongolia than Mongolia itself, and they Inner Mongolians are actually the ones that still use Mongolian script.

Shintoism is a degenerate form of Buddhism. The originaly creators were all buddhists.

Oh wow a fucking 5 year old had to shit. That never happens in Japan!

That's a full grown woman you retard. And yeah Japanese children don't usually shit on the streets.

Yet it not Japanese.

It is East Asian.

Wtf??
Are you retarded because Buddhim is practiced here too

Modern depiction is fake jap delusions bullshit

WOW WOMEN SOMETIMES HAVE TO SHIT THEY NEVER HAVE DIARRHEA HOW AWFUL

Are you really this much of a fucking retard? There’s 1.5 billion Chinese. You’re going to get some people who are idiots.

Japanese Buddhism descends from Chan Buddhism you absolute idiot.

Therefore Shintoism is a form of Chan buddhism.

modern sushi is clearly japanese

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Yeah and I am sure we are all Africans bruh. Shinto's tenets are definetely distinct enough from buddhism to call it it's own thing. And that 'buddhist monks created it' is pure bs, the origins of Shinto are basically unknown, or very obscure respectively. One could argue that Shinto is just an amalgamation of a variety of local superstitions, that existed independent from each other quite a while.

This. Unfortunately there is a lot of hostility towards Japanese anons on Sup Forums (why, I don't know). However Shinto is derived from genuinely ancient Jomon era animism and spiritualism going back some 30,000 years. That's right folks, the Japanese people have been in continuous habitation of those amazing islands for more than 30,000 years. Thus it is safe to say that aside from the similarities in the name of Shinto with Chinese traditions, it is overwhelmingly indigenous to the Yamato people. Even the latter arrival of the Yayoi peoples, only reinforced a unique Japanese religious system as the Yayoi were different than the rest of their mainland neighbors.

So earlier in this thread (a kike) mentioned the Burakumin caste as a way to insult the Japanese. You can blame the caste system on vile influence of Buddhism which was thanks to the pro Chinese culture obsession of the Heian era. And of course Bhuddism and its gross Indian origins harmed Chinese culture as well.

Honestly, I would love for all non native faiths to be banished from East Asian countries.

t.Chang
fuck off back to your country you subhuman

>Unfortunately there is a lot of hostility towards Japanese anons on Sup Forums (why, I don't know).

I think you can break it down into three different motives: Contrarian ex-weebs, angry gooks and Real Amuricans mentally still stuck in the glorious days of WW2

I know ameridumb poops in the streets as well but it is not considered normal in civilized countries, ok.

It's just little China but tiddier.

modern sushi is california roll and therefore American!

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Bhuddism is anti caste system.
Archeological evidence can only show human activitiy from 8000BC on.

but the california roll was invented in canada

as you like、chi.na dear AI
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>sushi
everyone thinks of the american sushi

>Real Amuricans mentally still stuck in the glorious days of WW2
This kind of mentality is precisely why I find Japs (and weeaboo cuck) on internet so insufferable, since they are like this, stuck in a pre-war mentality. They are nothing but propaganda drones parroting in unison their muh japan numbah 1, muh unique japan bullshit and LDP (Nippon kaigi) negationism and persecution delirium rants.

What can we do to shut the japs up and their virgin weeb followers?

I know right, they should all celebrate diversity.

A peculiarity I found is that the artisanship of ancient Japan seemed to be influenced heavily by Tang China while Korean artifacts from the same era seemed to resemble something of Scythian nature rather than anything Chinese.