LETTING THE DAYS GO BY edition
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Austin Morales
Jackson Adams
/asean/
Connor Gutierrez
>A left-wing French politician has been arrested over a tweet apparently celebrating the death of a policeman who was hailed a hero after he took the place of a hostage and was killed by a jihadist gunman.
It's good to see people are finally seeing how awful leftist extremists are.
Nolan Torres
Got a link?
Jayden Price
Utter scum. Fair play to the French authorities for not tolerating that bullshit.
Samuel Mitchell
>Brits Would Rather Leave EU Than Keep Northern Ireland In The UK: LBC Poll
lbc.co.uk
IT'S HAPPENING.
William Morris
It's nice but it likely won't change anything by itself. The queen of England could go to Belfast and tell everyone there to fuck off and join Ireland and unionists would still do everything in their power to latch onto Britain.
Luis Clark
>rinse glass with tapwater
>glass suddenly smells like deadly chemicals
Justin Long
Tiocfaidh ár lá
Joshua Cox
>good to see people are finally seeing how awful leftist extremists are
If you were to mirror this onto Irish politics, what parties would you label "leftist extremists"? Solidarity, AA-PBP, SF, Labour?
Also we aren't part of some global crusade against a political ideology (leftism), are we? French people realising French leftists are bad doesn't really benefit us.
Elijah Turner
>Also we aren't part of some global crusade against a political ideology (leftism), are we?
Sounds like fun.
Benjamin Reyes
>Sounds like fun
If you're an Anglo maybe.
Gabriel Flores
What do Anglos have to do with it?
Adrian Richardson
>we aren't part of some global crusade against a political ideology (leftism)
We're not?
Nathaniel Powell
Ideologism is a hallmark of Britain and the US in modern times.
Irish politics may be boring, but that doesn't mean I come on to Sup Forums or go to Twitter and join in some international ideological conflict for the craic or to feel a part of something "bigger".
Gabriel Rodriguez
>Ideologism is a hallmark of Britain and the US in modern times.
Well that's bullshit. Ideologism is everywhere.
>but that doesn't mean I come on to Sup Forums or go to Twitter and join in some international ideological conflict for the craic or to feel a part of something "bigger".
Well maybe you can't, but you don't speak for everybody in Ireland.
Hunter Hall
>Irish politics may be boring
The only reason you think Irish politics isn't ideological is because our spectrum goes from far-left to slightly right-of-centre economically, while all the parties agree nearly 100% on social policy.
Caleb Taylor
>Ideologism is everywhere
Maybe I explained that poorly. I meant more so the practice of finding common cause with political groupings abroad and supporting them over other groupings in one's home nation.
It's akin to a political form of globalism.
>you don't speak for everybody in Ireland
Naturally, but I don't find the supporting of foreign groupings the hallmark of a nationalist.
See above, poor explanation.
Angel Jones
blog.livedoor.jp
I am 12 and what is this
Blake Lewis
>Naturally, but I don't find the supporting of foreign groupings the hallmark of a nationalist.
We support the EU though, which is natural considering the fact that we are a member.
Jaxon Russell
>We support the EU though
What do you mean by we support them? We are a member and naturally as a member we work to shape and better the organisation?
England doesn't really "support" the UK, or Massachusetts the USA.
None of that compares to the original post, discussing French politics.
Also would be nice if the person that made that post could answer the question I asked. Thanks.
Lincoln Rodriguez
What's up?
Parker Perez
Good post. The cheerleading of the ebb and flow of ideologies around the world when it has no impact whatsoever on our political climate is pretty odd.
Logan Rogers
>people are not allowed to be interested in politics beyond their own borders
Zachary Parker
Not home long. Had to bring stuff home with me to do for work so it's probably going to be a busy night.
Justin Diaz
There is a difference between interest and championing.
Colton Martinez
If I agree with an action taken by a foreign government, I see no harm in voicing my support of it.
Ian Evans
>What a coincidence lots of countries turned communist at the same time
>What a coincidence a bunch of countries were fascist at the same time
>What a coincidence a bunch of former colonies gained independence at the same time
These were before the internet too, by the way.
Cameron Sullivan
This. Fine to observe, strange to have any sort of investment in the outcome when it doesn't affect you.
Benjamin Morales
Your point being what exactly? That there is such a thing as an ideology and that similar ones can occur in different countries?
Logan Cooper
>The cheerleading of the ebb and flow of ideologies around the world
>when it has no impact whatsoever on our political climate
My point is this isn't true.
Parker Johnson
>don't take sides in things that don't directly affect you
Bit of an amoral stance, no? People will naturally hold opinions on ideological issues that don't directly concern them, and naturally they will take sides based on those opinions.
By your logic men shouldn't be allowed to have a vote in the abortion referendum because abortion doesn't affect them.
>and that similar ones can occur in different countries?
Not him, but in this globalised age events that happen in one country can have a real and significant effects in other countries. Just another reason I don't see the issue with getting invested in things happening in other countries.
Owen Wilson
You quoted wrong.
Dominic Phillips
>By your logic men shouldn't be allowed to have a vote in the abortion referendum because abortion doesn't affect them.
This is some low grade intentional misrepresentation of a point.
Alexander Lewis
I copied & pasted.
Are you still saying national politics exists in isolation and the international rise of ideologies was all coincidence?
Grayson Thomas
>events that happen in one country can have a real and significant effects in other countries
I don't know about that desu. If Trump being elected won't result in much of a change for us then I don't see how the arrest of some fringe politician in France will.
William Walker
You said:
>strange to have any sort of investment in the outcome when it doesn't affect you.
I said (giving an example):
>By your logic men shouldn't be allowed to have a vote in the abortion referendum because abortion doesn't affect them.
Where am I going wrong?
>I don't see how the arrest of some fringe politician in France will.
Nobody in this thread has claimed that it will effect us. But one foreign event not affecting us doesn't imply that they are all like that. The world is more interconnected than ever.
Blake Powell
>in this globalised age events that happen in one country can have a real and significant effects in other countries
you make it sound like that's something exclusive to this age. See the wave of revolutions in 1848 for example.
>copied & pasted
It's easier to highlight the text and press q desu.
Logan Hall
>you
>lowercase y
This feels worse than making a typo.
Sebastian Parker
>you make it sound like that's something exclusive to this age
The internet and the ease of global travel has made it considerably easier for ideologies to spread beyond borders and over seas.
Alexander Hall
Yeah obviously it's easier, but my point was you phrased it like it never happened in the more distant past.
Levi Cruz
>Where am I going wrong?
Not him but the part where you brought the border on political issues onto the island. The border is the sea, not within Ireland and based on gender.
Xavier Price
It's funny you can't even understand his argument because you don't have any concept of morality.
Connor Flores
Both borders and gender are arbitrary restrictions people impose upon themselves and others with regard to the things they are "allowed" to be invested in.
Elijah Allen
>one foreign event not affecting us doesn't imply that they are all like that
Well not many events would affect us then if we are going off of Trump being elected President of the US not being one.
Jesting aside, I think my original point and (theory which I am still sort of in the process of formulating) was a bit lost in the discussion. Obviously agree that things outside our border can have an effect on us and there is sort of a natural inclination to take an interest in them.
>don't have any concept of morality
What does this mean?
Nice image.
Oliver Turner
>4friends
What does this mean? Where are you from?
Joseph Martin
I can't imagine this happens much in other countries but maybe somewhere in Marseille there's a lad in his bedroom celebrating a poorly received Richard Boyd Barrett tweet as he believes it may have a knock on effect to signal the end for Macron and En Marche.
Grayson Edwards
>there's a lad in his bedroom celebrating a poorly received Richard Boyd Barrett tweet as he believes it may have a knock on effect to signal the end for Macron and En Marche
Well done user.
Landon Sullivan
>I think my original point and (theory which I am still sort of in the process of formulating) was a bit lost in the discussion
Which is?
We're not relevant enough for Boyd Barrett's antics to be reported on anywhere outside of Ireland (thank God).
Jacob Phillips
>Which is?
Something along the lines of banding together with or supporting political organisations in other countries, over organisations in your own country being a no no.
Is a bunch of NP supporters going to talk given by Nigel Farage, other British nationalists and supporting the likes of UKIP and similar Eurosceptic parties in other countries a shining example of Irish nationalism? I get the feeling it might not be, but that's just me.
I'm still working out all the kinks in the theory, give me time.
Landon Gray
>current year
>there are still people who use a website that has an upboat system that rewards conformity and punishes thinking for oneself
Jace Butler
>thinking for oneself
Sounds dangerous. Believe that is how leftism developed, otherwise we would all be conforming to the ideals laid down by the church, no?
And as I've said before it is grand usually for non-political stuff.
Angel Cook
>Something along the lines of banding together with or supporting political organisations in other countries, over organisations in your own country being a no no.
Those two things aren't mutually exclusive though. You're taking a very narrow view on things.
>Is a bunch of NP supporters going to talk given by Nigel Farage, other British nationalists and supporting the likes of UKIP and similar Eurosceptic parties in other countries a shining example of Irish nationalism?
But those people are idiots, not least because they are crusading against Ireland's best interests by engaging in that sort of activity. I think that's a bit of a disingenuous example to give.
Dominic Perry
It seems quite reasonable that most people would like to read a select few comments the community considers most representative than trawl through hundreds.
The ignored and downvoted comments are still there for everyone else who'd like to read the takes of those non-conforming individuals.
Christopher Allen
>It seems quite reasonable that most people would like to read a select few comments the community considers most representative than trawl through hundreds.
But if any one faction of the community reaches critical mass, they can effectively silence people with opposing views. That's exactly what has happened on /r/ireland.
Nathaniel Campbell
>they are crusading against Ireland's best interests
I'm sure they would argue differently, and not simply because they are "idiots". They may just have different values and ambitions for the nation.
>I think that's a bit of a disingenuous example to give
Well it is the one that most prominently appears in my mind, probably primarily because I disagree with them so much.
>Those two things aren't mutually exclusive though
FG/FF/SF/Lab/AA-PBP/Healy-Rae >>> any other countries political party. Fight me.
>You're taking a very narrow view on things
Please enlighten me desu. I always welcome a friendly discussion on politics.
Jaxon Campbell
>Sinn Féin
Joshua Ross
>listening to what the youth wings of political parties blather on about
Austin Scott
Children are the future.
Luis Williams
That happens in most communities regardless of structure, particularly one on heated topics like politics. Downvotes are just a bit cleaner than name calling, passive aggressive insults or reputation sabotage in self regulated communities or moderators taking care of the minority group in others.
It's probably best to take the hint and leave those communities if you find you don't fit in with the masses anyway.
Julian Flores
>Children are the future
Indeed, though not necessarily their ideas.
Was the point of your post to highlight OSF saying something stupid, or them support foreign causes?
Hudson Gray
I support Irish nationalism insofar as the unification of the island under an independent government, but I fucking despise the leftist approach that 99.9999% of Irish nationalists take. Why does Sinn Fein and other left wing nationalists refuse to acknowledged the fact the Imperial Germany and late Nazi Germany, did more for the cause of Irish unity than the Sovjewiets?
Don't be naive. Europe is a demographic nightmare thanks to the the "children" of the WW2 generation becoming guilt ridden vermin and falling in love with garbage American influence. The same can be said about Australia and the other Anglo countries.
Luis Stewart
How many of the following do you agree with?
- Jews are evil?
- It's ok to exterminate or genocide a group of people?
- Nazi Germany didn't do too much wrong?
If the answer to any of the above is yes then I can foresee where we are going to have issues.
Aiden Ward
>They may just have different values and ambitions for the nation.
That involve aligning us with the UK and economically destroying the country?
>Please enlighten me desu
But I've already explained why I disagree with you. I don't have the time tonight to go into any greater detail I'm afraid.
Thomas Reyes
Is this a man?
Owen Rogers
Do you feel the Soviets are some how free of blame? Or that American cultural influence is good? Why do you defend Jews? Two thousand years of pogroms and hatred between Europeans and Jews, and yet the Jews still couldn't understand they weren't welcomed.
If Irish unity came at the cost of being party to Nazi Germany's social policies, so be it. Unless you feel that the thousands who perished or were wounded during the Troubles is acceptable.
And while what happened to the Poles, and ethnic Russians was horrible, you can't honestly tell me you pity the gypsies.
Jackson Morgan
>economically destroying the country
They may disagree, or alternatively state protecting our culture is more important than economics.
>aligning us with the UK
There is perhaps and argument that by siding with the UK we help to "destroy" the EU in its current form. Imagine many Eurosceptics just want the free trade but roll back all the "control" from Brussels.
>I don't have the time tonight
>not going to bed for another six hours
Sure, I believe you desu...
Adrian Walker
Have a knot in my stomach for the last two hours, lads. How do I make it go away?
Hudson Kelly
Doing work, yes yes I recalls now.
Christopher Perez
Untie it.
Juan Gutierrez
get /extraflags/
Dylan Ross
d-don't tell me what to do
Isaac Moore
How is siding with the UK being independent from the EU helping protect Irish culture?
Ayden Fisher
>t. another Pollack living in Ireland
To answer your
Matthew Bell
>Ireland's first official nudist beach to open next month
>it's in Dublin
Can you imagine the sort of person that would go to such a place?
Grayson Lee
No need to imagine, there's already a Naturist society and have had gatherings in Leitrim. Full of the elderly mainly.
Cooper Walker
That's just disturbing. Nobody should be taking their clothes off in public, especially the elderly.
Jason Lewis
Wouldn't like to develop a boner in there.
Hudson Robinson
No fear of that I'd say
Carson Clark
MY EYES!
Thomas Martinez
>tfw finally getting /fit/
We're all going to make it, lads
Easton Cox
>We're all going to make it, lads
>spreading lies
Jace Morgan
tfw no average irish gf
Caleb Scott
She's showing a lot of side.
Christopher Perry
just your average irish girl
Thomas Carter
But she doesn't have much sideboob to show off.
Gavin Miller
bump
Hudson Hughes
Nudist beaches are usually filled with old people. It's not just the case in Ireland. Young people are very shy about that sort of thing.
Dominic Price
Ireland?
Jackson Phillips
Yes?
Gabriel Butler
Oíche mhaith.