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Opening CUTEpost

You've been visited by the Party Kyle of Uncomfortable Intensity. Reply with your best Kyle or Dougie IMMEDIATELY or all of your parties and fun times will be cursed FOREVER

shit, don't wanna get cursed

wrapped in plastic lol

Cooper never left the Lodge in The Return.

We live inside a dream.

>tfw had a coffee earlier.
>Receipt said order 315
>Next time look at clock it says 2:53
>Friend invites me over to his house, says come at 4:30
>Friend just moved out, I find out it's Richardson Street

Wtf

Reminder it's been confirmed that Eddie Vedder is the dreamer. That's why Audrey wakes up after he plays his song.

>Richardson Street where he now lives/has a place*

david lunch lol

why was there so much focus on the power lines? was it suggesting they were the method of traveling through portals?
we only saw the outlets used a few times.
why was the last place cooper or his doppelganger appeared in texas?
does lynch know that texas has its own separate power grid?
what did he mean by that?

just watched Showgirls, partly because of lewd Kyle kino. what did i think of it?

spooky, but haha, imagine if Kyle was there when you went over haha wouldn't that be a great coincidence

ONE ONE NINE

ded general

ahaha sheryl what are you doing wrapped up like that silly lol get out of there

not bad

I'd just give the thumbs up awkwardly.

and yet it lives.

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PICK YOUR 5 FAVORITE TWIN PEAKS EPISODES

I tried to include all the fan favorites.

WRAPPED IN PLASTIC

Part 11 was kino. Incredible Mitchums and Dougie scenes.

:3

Reminder, Lynch has lost it. The Return was just a rip off of Breaking Bad (Lynch's favorite show) and the Sopranos (Tony's dream while he's in a coma). Everything else, everything he and Frost created on their own, is garbage. Either purposefully irrelevant to the show or so ambiguous it doesn't mean anything, that way nobody can criticize it. Or it's a ridiculous celebrity appearance by one of Lynch's TM buddies. Or a scene where Lynch's self-insert is cool and funny while none of the other characters get a single decent line of dialogue. The Return is 18 hours of nothing, ending with a literal anime battle followed by another giant pile of nothing.

Lynch killed Twin Peaks when he got butthurt and abandoned the show. Everything since then is a bad imitation.

Kyle, NO!

He looks so old and bloated there.

eh, it's just a bad photo taken with a shitty camera. he is still CUTE

Lynch was making movies about dreams before the Sopranos was even a thing.

Why does he hate Twin Peaks, /tpg/?

is mulholland dr canon

>Molhollond Falls

He hates it because as a creator it's the most important and influential work he's ever done and it was something he wasn't 100% in charge of or responsible for.

That's why he hates Twin Peaks.

imagine if sherilyn got a snowflake on her nose and to be funny sheryl kissed it off ahaha that would be something

The Sopranos is the worst show on television. Period.

>Laura and James
>Cooper and Audrey

>these characters didn't even interact in season 3

LYNCHED

YOU'RE GOING BACK TO MISSOULA

actually, there might be some truth to this.

He doesn't know Audrey is the evolution of the Arm

what is it with david lynch and pitch black hobos

He is a monster. Buy my book.

I LOVE YOU LAURA KILL ME

I AM SEX FUCK

YES IMPOSSIBRU

Thank you for the ride home, Uncle Leland!

He wasn't 100% in charge of Dune, Elephant Man, On the Air, Wild At Heart, The Straight Story, My Son My Son What Have You Done, or the coffee/PlayStation commercials either

he's obviously okay being associated with collaborations/adaptations or he wouldn't keep doing them

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Audrey may not have gotten a lot of screen time but at least her subplot was a metaphorical and figurative reflection on The Return as a whole.

You missed
>the most important and influential work he's ever done
Twin Peaks will go down as his legacy despite not being his 100% his baby.

How so??

But he wasn't butthurt by other's meddling in the same way he was with Twin Peaks.

>be artist
>work with a co-creator to make a television show
>the network is constantly breathing down your back, makes you compromise on so much
>eventually you can't take it anymore and tell them to fuck off
>but the show is still your most significant work as an artist

There has to be a bit of resentment there.

So you're saying he is George Lucas?

Half the things he's done are collaborations, half are his own stuff, obviously he's not horrified by the thought that his most famous thing would be a collaboration, or he wouldn't keep doing them (in case they became successful)

Especially since he could've been in charge of it and didn't want to be, and he went back and made more of it, and then made even more of it

Gotta light?

her pupils terrify me

Bitch is in a coma.

Dreaming.

His teeth make me want to vomit.

yeah, what a great way to re-emphasize something we already had drilled into our minds five other ways this season.

How the fuck does Sheryl Lee do it?

Her performance in FWWM is the most visceral and gut wrenching one I've ever seen.

>this level of mental gymnastics to justify Lynch taking a shit all over his own show and its fans

How's about a good Mr. C instead?

I really liked Mr. C by the end honestly

Through real rape and abuse, sadly. Sheryl's performance was sadly very real.

We're gonna stop Lynch someday, bros

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That doesn't explain shit. How is that a reflection on The Return as a whole

Alright can you guys redpill me on how this show is about David Lynch raping his own daughter?

Infographs would be appreciated

>character which could be dead gets some screentime
>"WHY IS NOT THE ENTIRE SHOW ABOUT HER"

That's just the midget MJA being butthurt. Lynch didn't rape anyone.

Hahaha. That was a great scene. Buy my book.

I really don't think the show would have been as big without her as Laura Palmer

that's what he said though...

Reminder that David Lynch is a cult leader and nearly the entire cast of Twin Peaks are involved. He makes them do TM on set.

Even Kyle.
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Here is Kyle participating in a DLF dinner about the benefits of TM for creativity and acting.

Almost the entire cast literally see David Lynch as a spiritual leader. It's kind of sick, really. Rumor has it... if you buy three mantras, you get a Twin Peaks cameo for free.

Somebody say black grandmas?

LELAND SAYS YOU'RE GOING BACK TO TEEN ANAL

B-but that's not Laura..

>It's kind of sick, really.
Oh no. Some people like to practice meditation.

Is that why Lynch loathes everybody he's ever worked with? He sees them as insects

Is there a more hateful man??

>/tpg/ haters btfo

Not just meditation, but TM. Which wants thousands of dollars from everyday dopes and claims it'll teach you to fly.

>no more Twin Peaks, probably ever
>TM shitters killed the thread
>they're actually right about TM and Twin Peaks, though
>The Return was, now that the dust has settled, a little disappointing

Don't even know how to feel anymore, /tpg/. Cheer me up, lads.

bullshit. We all know the nefarious ernie niles poster killed it

got you famalam
my book will cheer you up

What is tm?

First I'm hearing of it, great lineup

Are these ever filmed? I'd love to hear Lynch, Lee, and Hurley's talks

>William Hastings
>My name is William and I live on Hastings in Spokane, a town mentioned in Twin Peaks that Lynch grew up in
Bravo Lynch

Audrey's subplot touches on a lot of aspects that are covered throughout the whole of the Return.

>time standing still
Audrey seems trapped in an eternal night, attempting to leave her house but never being able to get through the door. This temporal freeze, where the person is trapped in a type of stasis, is repeated throughout a lot of the show, notably with Dougie, Sarah Palmer (watching the same loop of boxing in her home), Dr. Amp (literally playing the same clips over), Ed and Norma (and Nadine) existing in the same trapped triangle. It shows how trapped a person becomes when they cannot accept or be able to change (remember Sizemore's insurance agent: "I want to change, or die!", or Cole's "Fix your hearts or die." I think both lines are significant).

>breaking the loop leads to change and growth
Snapping out of your funk and finally moving on from a point of life in your past means that your life can finally progress, although progress might not always be positive or result in happiness (but it can result in new awareness). Audrey, by finally "going to the Roadhouse", starts to move on with her life and go beyond her delusion. It seems initially that she is still mentally trapped in her past, dancing to "Audrey's Dance," envisioning her life as it was 25 years ago. However, a violent altercation (real or otherwise), snaps her out of it, while she vainly asks to "get me out of here," she is already broken out of her delusion and taken back to reality, or a new awareness of what her real self is.

Likewise, Jacoby convinces Nadine to break her cycle that she was trapped in with Ed, who later breaks his cycle by finally asking Norma to marry him. Jacoby himself seems like he has the possibility of moving beyond his life as a man repeatedly shilling his golden shovels by spewing hate-filled conspiracy theories to his audience - through a possible romance with Nadine.

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I'm a stoic and emotionally detached piece of shit. But Fire Walk With Me is emotionally exhausting to watch.

The roadhouse scene "Questions in a world of blue" has made me cry so many times. It's hard even listening to the song

Best roadhouse scene, better than Lonely Souls even.

I miss it when they had actual poignancy, they were so void of all of that in The Return.

I feel like Shadow is totally fine since the song basically alludes to Laura, Snake Eyes is good too but everything else feels a bit forced, and I say that as someone who likes the Roadhouse scenes.

Note that Jacoby hadn't seen Nadine in 7 years. We are left to wonder how much actual contact with the real world he has left (probably little).

Elsewhere, Dougie wakes up to his true self as Dale Cooper, and Diane's tulpa remembers the traumatic core which is at the heart of her existence (and perishes because of it). Audrey may be in a type of limbo, or psychiatric care, or whatever, but at the very least she is now more in control of herself and awakened to who she really is, instead of trapped living out the same delusional fantasy over and over again.

>"We are the dreamer..."
This one is pretty obvious given the conclusion of Audrey's subplot. But it ties into a lot of talk given over to dreams, and how dreams are a reflection of reality, and how they influence reality. Audrey's dream IS her reality, until she is forced to wake up. In a similar way the Mitchums befriend Dougie because they saw a dream of them becoming friends instead of enemies. Note Janey-E saying "all of our dreams have come true" - precisely before Dougie finally wakes up as Dale Cooper. It's not coincidental that the moment dreams become reality that something important for the characters and their lives.

What I am trying to say here is that there are a lot of parallels and visual metaphors going on throughout Twin Peaks, and a number of major themes and ideas are crystallized in Audrey's subplot (filtered through the absurd humor and sad melodrama of the situation), which makes it a nice distillation of several important themes in the Return.

Similarly, I think that episode 18 is actually the entire season, if not the entire series, condensed into its core themes and exploration (all in 1 hour), but that's another wall of text for another day.

I agree in that a number of songs felt more or less just like the hip indie bands David or his son found out about and put into the show. Chromatics' Shadow had a fantastic emotional appeal (perfect for early in the series and the sight of all the returning cast), while others were just blah (like Mississippi). It's a real shame we didn't have more Julee Cruise. For me her voice IS Twin Peaks.

When Sarah Palmer is crawling around on the ground in either Season 1 or FWWM, is it not similar to the frog-bug thing, aka Jumping Man?

Audrey has gone so insane she has broke the 4th wall and is asking for Billy Zane, not the character he played.

Why does the Leaping Lad show up whenever something is about to go wrong?

Just watched David Lynch's quinoa tutorial and in it he mentioned the frog moth thing. What's the deal with that?

My sis and I kept on making that joke too, lol. She was holding on to the hope that Richard was the result of Audrey going INSANE WITH ZANE ON A PLANE, instead of doppel-rape, all the way until the end (ep 16). She didn't want to believe that that happened to her favorite character.

Breaking Bad? The only scene that was remotely similar was the Polish accountant.

Lynch might be a hack if that's his favorite show though.

I wish my sister watched twin peaks

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yeah, lynch going full jools holland with his hipster posse is the only complaint i have regarding the show

WHY
DID YOU GO?
WHY
DID YOU TURN AWAY FROM ME?