Is this the best WW2 movie that has ever been made?

Is this the best WW2 movie that has ever been made?
Also, is there a more memorable Hitler than Bruno Ganz?

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Poor guy that Hitler. I hope he eventually finds Fageline.

There are many good WW2 movies.

Yes. But Der Untergang is the best.

The nazis... were a bunch of jerks.

>Is this the best WW2 movie that has ever been made?
Nope, that would be Das Boot or Come and See.
>Also, is there a more memorable Hitler than Bruno Ganz?
Nope, great performance.

>I'm not a Nazi, I swear!

I wonder the Xbox Live ban ever got lifted.

>Also, is there a more memorable Hitler than Bruno Ganz?

There are too many to pick just one. Many WW2 films are unknown to Westerners. Some of them, such as Eroica are very good.

were they the badies?

even the Russian WW2 film is gud. i forgot the title though

Come and See

Der Untergang isn't even the best German WW2 movie.

Tora Tora Tora is the best.

This one.

Does this sound familiar at all? (starting at 6:52)
>youtu.be/kPdxhLUKZYM?list=PLo0ThsDnveH5nv5TNviBrGTX9P6IrYfIe&t=412

Despite all the jews Schindlers list is not bad either

Yeah that one.

Fuck now I wanna watch soviet era movies

Conspiracy is the best WWII movie. Comfy dinner party kino.

What was that movie Look whos back or something like that had a pretty good hitler i thought.

How many versions of Das Boot exist? Which one should i watch?

wewlad

The one from '81.

If you really want to watch an edited film version, then The Directors Cut.
Otherwise go for the entire mini-series

>there's too many of x race represented in y!

whites are LITERALLY niggers when it comes to Jews

JIDF, eat a dick.

mini series with german audio for the full experience

>Germany lost WW1 because of the Jews! They were winning until that uprising!

lmao, no. Germany and its allies were collapsing on literally every front in the weeks before the Spartacist Uprising.

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This fanfic movie is such a moronic disgrace

lmao, keep voting for Jews le redpilled gentleman

>Is this the best WW2 movie that has ever been made?
Too many to name single best movie.

>Also, is there a more memorable Hitler than Bruno Ganz?
Simply the best.

Corredt translation should be like "Walk and Watch" which is kind of more disturbing.

There's the Theatrical Cut (2 hours 23 minutes), Director's Cut (3 hours 28 minutes) and the Mini-Series which has 6 episodes of 50 minutes each (about 5 hours total).

For maximum kino, watch the Mini-Series as it has a lot more dialogue and characterization scenes which makes you understand the crew and their motivations more. There's a good 1080p x265 rip of the Mini-Series on TPB.

Each time I want to watch it I found out about an even longer version.
I had the same with Talvisota.

>Compare that to Germany's treatment of France after the Franco-Prussian war.
At least the French paid the reparations. Germs were more willing to destroy their economy than to pay reparations.

The Mini-Series is the longest version available.

There are actually 2 different runtimes for the Mini-Series but that's just because the original one on TV had 5 minute flashbacks before each episode and that added to the runtime, they removed those flashbacks on the Blu-Ray release.

It really is a great movie with spectacular performances by all those involved. Hitler really was a monster, but Bruno Ganz and the film's direction really brings an understandable, almost sympathetic humanity to him.

Are there any good French WW2 movies?

not bout das boot but do you know about any other submarine kino where the crew drowns inside of one? i was looking for this particular film as i remember it from my childhood and i thought this scene was from das boot and it's not there

>tfw American cut of the Polish Come and See is nearly done

If you watched Downfall and felt "sympathetic", you are deranged.

będzie czyms się różnił? obejrzałem już dwa razy, dla mnie 9/10, o wiele lepsze od idi i smotri ale może to przez to że wołyń jest po prostu bliższy serduszku

Sup Forums likes posting photos from that movie like that brainwashed nazi girl even though the movie clearly showed how sensless it was and how nazi command didn't care about what's gonna happen to the German nation.

I think Carlyle did pretty good job plus the movie was also good for a TV movie

Jesus Christ man, have you heard of vowels?

he just wanted some living space

see this as to why low IQ neckbeards think it's "sympathetic"

I know the movie will be simplified so that Americans could follow it but all the brutality will remain.

this was biased as shit. The actor doing it went full retard and what came out was a caricature of a character.

his name was "fegelein".

pah, i'd hate to watch a simplified version of such kino, do you have any source to your info?

>Is this the best WW2 movie that has ever been made?
Das Boot (TV Miniseries Version), Stalingrad are way better.

He was better fit for a younger Hitler in his homeless period.
Still don't like how they treat him as a comic book villain. Even as a kid they shot him like young Voldemort so that the audience wouldn't forget who he is. What happened to banality of evil?

>simplified
Eh, it's a meme that some films can be understand only if you're a Pole or a Slav. Nowadays Wikipedia is enough to explain the context.

stalingrad isn't even in the same league

>If you watched Downfall and felt "sympathetic", you are deranged.
t. dogmatic brainlet. As I said, Hitler was a monster, an evil human being and I hate Nazism, but the portrayal of Hitler in his last moments as a pathetic, defeated and even more deluded individual evoked unexpected emotion in me.

Meh, I wish someone would make historically accurate film about Hitler coming to power. It's a great story with twists and conspiracies.

Stalingrad goes to shit the moment the woman appears.

The movie is basically a story of a village and what was going on there during WWII so we have Poles, Ukrainians, Germans and Soviets. International version will have dates and other necessary information on the screen. Some scenes that mean more for Slavic viewers got shortened.

Because Germany made a reasonable demand of 5 billion Francs.

A French Franc of 1871 is worth approximately 5.11USD (it varies from as low as 2USD to 18USD but 5.11 is reasonable). Meaning Germany asked for 25.55 billion USD. This was approximately 25% of France's GDP or the exact amount France demanded of Prussia previously in the century. This was designed to be easily payable in 5 years.

World War 1 demanded Germany pay up to 500billion USD on top of France stealing German manufacturing equipment and removing Germany's most important economic sectors. It was designed to not be payable. The goal wasn't to get the money, the goal was to ruin Germany.


It's like saying I owe you 1 dollar, I pay it back. Then tomorrow I come back and say you owe 10,000 dollars and I break your legs with a baseball so you can't work.

I usually like carlyle but I didn't like this. It wasn't even the portrayal of hitler as completely cruel man, but the overall cartoony vibe from hitlers pathos to the english spoken by the germans. It just didn't feel like germany between wars, I wasn't drawn in

I actually liked Wołyń more than Come and See. Come and See is way over the top.

Downfall and Come and See are the best WWII movies.

>you are dogmatic if you didn't find a sociopathic, genocidal, drugged up nut sympathetic because he was abloo abloo sad that his autistic plans for Germany failed miserably.

Gee, it's almost like Germany started that war...

I heard a new version was created also so it would be possible to send them for the next Oscars but I don't know if anything came out of it.

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Where did you get these numbers from?

>The Treaty of Versailles (signed in 1919) and the 1921 London Schedule of Payments required Germany to pay 132 billion gold marks (US$33 billion) in reparations to cover civilian damage caused during the war. This figure was divided into three categories of bonds: A, B, and C. Of these, Germany was only required to pay towards 'A' and 'B' bonds totaling 50 billion marks (US$12.5 billion). The remaining 'C' bonds, which Germany did not have to pay, were designed to deceive the Anglo-French public into believing Germany was being heavily fined and punished for the war.

>on top of France stealing German manufacturing equipment and removing Germany's most important economic sectors
But that happened in 1923 and only because Germany refused to pay.

You also forget that Germany wasn't destroyed after WW1 unlike France in 1871.

>start one of the most gruelling and terrible wars in European history
>help introduce chemical warfare
>millions are killed
>cry that you need to pay more when the whole thing was 90 percent your own fault to begin with, along with an alliance-based military system.

Yes downfall is one of the best.

>whole point of the film is both the desperation and delusion of the people around an oblivious Hitler, in his own underground castle of lies.

D A S F U C K I N G B O O T

It's almost like the war started in another country and treaties forced countries to get involved. Austria-Hungary vs Serbia, which dragged in Germany and Russia, which then dragged in France because France wanted to get back at Germany for the Franco-Prussian War. Then England joined in.

So how did Germany start the war?


Those values are without inflation. 132 billion gold marks was 33 billion USD in 1919. In modern currency that is 466billion USD to 500 billion depending on the year you adjust it too.

>But that happened in 1923 and only because Germany refused to pay.


They couldn't pay. The entire point of it was that Germany couldn't pay that is why France made it so severe. Even allied nations thought France was extreme.

>You also forget that Germany wasn't destroyed after WW1 unlike France in 1871.

France was not destroyed after 1871. It was still the largest economy in Europe. The whole war was a short one sided beat down that changed the fundamentals of Europe because it demonstrated the traditional idea of a balance of powers wasn't working. Germany was clearly the dominant land nation and was rapidly expanding its naval capacity. Which is ironic because France's main reason for declaring the war was to stop Germany from becoming too powerful and upsetting the balance of power.

The worst you could say is Germany took Alsace and Lorraine but that was historically German land that France took over in the 1600s.

>They couldn't pay
Historians disagree.
>The entire point of it was that Germany couldn't pay that is why France made it so severe
No, France wanted higher reparations.

>It was still the largest economy in Europe
I'm sure that was Britain.

>historically German land
With people who did not want to be part of Germany.

You Germaboos are hilarious. The Allies did everything to help Germany pay the reparations and they still paid jack shit (like 10% or so).

>France wanted to get back at Germany for the Franco-Prussian War
Except it was Germany which declared war on France.
>Then England joined in
Because Germans attacked neutral Belgium.

>because germany attacked belgium
Wish this meme would stop.
England was already lining up on the French border before Germany attacked Belgium.

Source?

>muh Germany didn't start 2 world wars, Sup Forums revisionist meme
Kill yourself.

OBJECTIVE TOP TEN WWII MOVIES

1. Longest Day
2. Saving Private Ryan
3. Great Escape
4. Bridge on the River Kwai
5. Empire of the Sun
6. Von Ryans Express
7. Letters from Iwo Jima
8. Enemy Below
9. Bridge too Far
10. Stalingrad

It's fucking basic history you retard.

What a shit list.

make a better one faggotron oh whats that you can't? so shut the fuck up then

Source?

embarrassingly pedestrian post

Definitely not Bridge on the River Kwai. But I like movies like Longest Day. Huge movies about entire operations told from different points of view. I miss those. Dunkirk feels like a small revival.

requesting more AdolfKino

>Germans speaking English

That movie sucked ass

>Historians disagree.
No they don't.
>No, France wanted higher reparations.
Yes which I already stated. Even then the allies thought France demanded too much. France's goal was ensuring Germany was weak and unable to challenge them.
>I'm sure that was Britain.
France was the largest economy in Europe. The United Kingdom was a larger economy making up approximately 9.1% of the world economy to France's 6.5%. But the much of the UK's economy was based outside of Europe.

At the time for Europe it was France, Germany, England. If you include oversea's territory it is England, France, Germany.
>With people who did not want to be part of Germany
They were conquered via military force. Even in 1871 the vast majority of the population spoke German. When given the option to become French citizens or German citizens after the Franco-Prussian war 90% opted for German citizenship. Coincidentally approximately 90% of the population spoke German. So you're wrong again. The majority of the land was ethnic Germans, speaking German that chose Germany.
>The Allies did everything to help Germany pay the reparations and they still paid jack shit (like 10% or so).

It was paid in full dip shit. The plans you're talking about were temporary measures. They knew the payment would take decades. Which was the point, they wanted to ruin Germany to ensure France stayed strong.
>Except it was Germany which declared war on France.
The war was started on the 16th of July 1870 when French parliament declares war on Germany.
>Because Germans attacked neutral Belgium.
Which was an excuse. Britain justified it by saying they were honoring a treaty that England themselves violated. Also France and Germany both asked Belgium for the rights to travel through Belgium with an escort, both were denied but Germany got there first. As for why Germany did it, France had earlier in the 1800's established that marching through a nation against it's will did not constitute violating neutrality

So to sum up everything.

You're fucking wrong on everything. Kill yourself you godless mouth breathing troglodyte heathen niggerfaggot. You didn't even know France declared war on Prussia to start the Franco-Prussian war which is the most basic of fucking historical facts.

>"Belgium was a false flag" revisionism.

>yeah, they attacked neutral Belgium but like...that was ok, France does it too!
>Germany dindu nuffin! I swear!

If you watched a movie and based your political beliefs off of it then what are you then?

What in the fuck are you talking about?

Yer right. All they cared bout was killing ze jews and ruling de world

There's no point in simplifying it; Americans will never see it.

I only use Sup Forums to follow the Syrian Civil War because I don't want to lurk on ISIS websites.

Laws work based off an established precedent. Establishing a precedent of, "its not an invasion its just an unwilling transit" had help up international law before. If there was an international precedent otherwise then it would be entirely justified to declare war on Germany for the act. England wasn't concerned with Belgian neutrality, they were concerned with "What happens if Germany wins". Which is to say England hoped to ensure the balance of power in Europe was maintained and Belgium was just a convenient excuse.

Now go back to thinking Germany declared war in the Franco-Prussian war faggot.

Pretty much everyone in the west. Everything you "know" you received from someone else, textbooks are owned by a handful of publishers, media a handful of corporations. Edwards Bernays, the father of modern cinema and propaganda said it best-

Fun fact, Bernays was the double nephew of Sigmund Freud

>two things Hitler literally said, wrote about extensively and told everyone around him.

>I only use Sup Forums to follow the Syrian Civil War
Using Sup Forums for anything makes you a retard.

Hitler never spoke of ruling the world. Funny thing, after the war America and the USSR would end up trying to oust each other in proxy wars on every continent, exerting influence so each could rule the world indirectly.

Woah, wtf I love National Socialism now!

This, only mainstream media such as CNN or MSNBC are trustworthy.

>I want a thousand year Reich stretching the entire globe and to make all the superpowers of the world fall under the flag of the German 3rd Reich
>but I don't want to rule the world ;)
>just ignore all video footage, written words in my own pen and public speeches.
How anyone ends up like you really baffles me.