Kubo is the most deserving winner. I assume the people who criticize the plot are plebs who never watch a movie that's not animated and intended for "adults".
Kubo was the only animated film I saw this year that I thought was an exceptional film beyond the animation. Which was also, in itself, the most impressive animation of the bunch. There's no argument for another winner.
Jack Turner
>only animated film I saw >Most deserving Really?
David Miller
Moana might win for being ethnically diverse even though there's only Polynesians in the film (don't tell Will Smith they're not black)
I honestly forget Finding Dory even exists sometimes, it didn't get nearly as much buzz on the internet as Zootopia and Moana
If it came down between Zootopia, Kubo, and Moana, I'd be happy with any choice
William Sullivan
You know what a full stop is, right?
Juan Hill
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Cooper Miller
Sausage party. In there. Are you an Oscar Mayer weiner?
Grayson White
While I really don't think Sausage Party deserves to win or even really deserves a nomination, it would still be interesting to see an "adult" film just be considered, if only to make a few normies and plebs reconsider the potential of the medium.
Bentley Harris
Anomalisa was just nominated last year.
Jayden Powell
And I'd be willing to bet the majority of the academy members who saw it were the same animation department guys that had it nominated. If Sausage Party were nominated, at least a greater percentage of the voters outside of animation would know what it even is.
Michael Watson
Dory or Moana will be nominated and one or the other will win
Zootopia won't even get nominated because Oscar voters don't have memories that extend that far back into the year and it isn't a movie Disney wants to win since they barely marketing it to begin with
Adam Gonzalez
The nominations are decided by actual animators Who wins is up to the voters though
Gavin Collins
Right, which is why it will be down to Moana, Zootopia and Finding Dory. Between those three, I'm going to guess that Finding Dory will win because it's the one that the idiots who they pick as voters will recognize. They'll have heard of all three, but since Oscar voters don't give a shit about actually watching the movies they're supposed to vote for they're just going to go with the one that they remember most, and if they've even heard of Finding Nemo (which they probably have) they'll vote based solely on that.
As an aside, I'm actually rather surprised at how deep my genuine loathing for Oscar voters really is. Typing this out made me realize just how much I hate the people who vote for movies nominated for Oscars.
Wyatt James
It will be Moana because it'll be the most recent one the judges' kids watched and otherwise because Disney, because who wants to watch animated movies, are you a retard or something? Now let me check the stock market on my cellphone cause I'm an adult with the creativity of a sea slug.
Dylan Roberts
Zootopia will win. They'll just make some quick bad joke about animation and then speed through the nominees and the winner like they always do.
Connor Lewis
I'm assuming your talking Oscars. My list is pretty similar to yours:
Kubo and the Two Strings Moana The Red Turtle Your Name. Zootopia
The Red Turtle is both Ghibli and a huge indie darling, especially among the animation branch, who decides the nominees. I think Moana, Zootopia and Finding Dory are all vulnerable, but Finding Dory is definitely the most vulnerable. Zootopia should win if it gets nominated, but you never know. I just hope Moana doesn't win. Easily the weakest of the five.
Andrew Long
I honestly don't understand the massive disrespect people have for animation. It's like they think just because it's not "real" that it has no value.
Noah Lopez
The Academy is still pissed that Beauty and the Beast almost beat all the live action stuff back in the early 90s.
Joseph Allen
Animation is seen as stupid bullshit for children The "Saturday morning cartoon" stigma will never go away
Nolan Lewis
Kubo deserves it but will get shafted. Zootopia is likely, and I'd be okay with it since it was actually good on several levels. Moana is much more likely than I'm happy with, it was decent enough but definitely not oscar-worthy.
Jackson Perez
Why does that extend to the populace, though? I mean, are people really so fucking stupid that they'll see the Academy taking measures to keep animation out of the Best Feature category that they'll just automatically treat animation like it's "lesser"?
I've noticed that as well, it seems like no matter how many steps are taken to show the world that animation can actually be something that adults can appreciate the general public will refuse to acknowledge animation as a worthwhile storytelling medium.
Anthony Wright
>I mean, are people really so fucking stupid that they'll see the Academy taking measures to keep animation out of the Best Feature category that they'll just automatically treat animation like it's "lesser"? shit like this happens every day idiot
Zachary Reed
Normal people don't care or like animation.
Its the judges who have a prejudice. Go ahead, read some of these:
>are people really so fucking stupid that they'll see the commission on presidential debates taking measures to keep third party candidates out of the debates that they'll just automatically treat third party candidates like they're "lesser"?
People are fucking stupid.
Jaxson Cook
I liked Zootopia more, but I want Kubo to win because Laika deserves a win. I'm tired of Disney winning all the fucking time
Jason Lee
Kubo was one of the best films this year hands down, and it won't even manage to win for best animated film...
Man, fuck the Oscars.
Michael Wood
>normies don't care or like animation
I think most people care about animation, even if it's mostly Disney and some anime. Most normal people, like my folks, don't seem to buy animation as an art form, weirdly enough.
Ayden Stewart
Your Name was way better.
Wyatt Mitchell
Isn't Your Name an anime that Sup Forums brought to life through meme magic?
Xavier Cox
Zootopia will probably win. it made a ton of money, and was criticallyacclaimed. Not to mention made by Disney.(their name guarantees a win here)
Kubo has no shot at it.
Adam Ross
Yes, and is by far the most successful anime film of the year with some of the best living animators who worked on it.
Dominic Peterson
Zootopia was one of the top rated movies of 2016. It will be up for animated movie of the year. Hell, I thought it had a shot to be up for movie of the year.
Grayson Lopez
Well, by that I mean that most people don't hate animation enough to ignore it. Kinda hard to word it right.
Colton Richardson
Will having a canon gay couple improve Zootopia's chance at winning?
Jonathan Gutierrez
those two are voiced by the two directors of the movie
Charles Morales
>since Oscar voters don't give a shit about actually watching the movies they're supposed to vote for
It still makes me laugh when I think of that one Frozen voter who said she hated animated movies so much that she left her child in the theater and waited outside for the film to end.
Dylan Brown
But they are also gay
Mason Ortiz
I would have wanted Kubo to get (animated) movie of the year award, but the ending sucked balls, so Zootopia stays best of 2016.
Cooper Thompson
>Finding Dory >Big Money Earner and Hollywood's Pick. I thought Zootopia made more money.
Finding Dory gets nominated because Pixar.
Jaxon Brooks
Well, one is in real life. The gazelle just seem to be typical roommates, though.
Cooper Garcia
For its shitty marketing Zootopia definitely made more money. I personally believe that either it or Kubo are the most deserving of the award, considering i'm a huge hoer for stop animation and Zootopia's MUH WORLDBUILDING, MUH MESSAAGE has made it a big favourite for me. Also its the first fandom I've sort of settled into....I think I may have developed a problem