Shooting to kill

Do you shoot to kill, disable, impare, or scare?
I shoot to kill and I was wondering if that's too harsh, everytime I bring it up people call me awful and gasp. It seems normal to me, am I wrong?
No "gunz iz buad gunz do da kil, we wuz kangz" garbage. I want a serious discussion please.

You obviously have never taken a self defense course, there is no shooting to injure.

Shoot to kill or you will be sued/arrested

I know there is no shoot to injure but I was wondering why shooting to kill seems so awful if that's my only option

If the one you shoot at intends to kill you then shoot to kill. If they are running away shoot in leg. If she's talking too much shoot in mouth, but not with gun.

If someone is trying to injure, rape, etc you end their lives with extreme prejudice.

It's not awful. You have a right to defend yourself.

To kill since trying to aim at someone's arm or leg would probably result in you missing and hitting some bystander.

>If they are running away shoot in leg

Flag.

Sage.

Get out.

Shoot until the threat is neutralized in self defense. If you're using it and there's no justification to kill the person you aren't supposed to be using your gun.

Old pasta

Shoot to kill unless it gets to the point that you're about to execute a downed guy, such tends to look very obvious and will get you into a heap of shit.

There is no guarantee that a wound shot will stop an assislant, or that it even won't kill them anyways. Bullets can ricochet.

You either shoot to kill, or a warning shot immediately by shoot to kill if the situation doesn't improve.

Shoot to kill every time. My friends father shot a guy in the chest that was trying to kill my friend and the guy managed to run off through the woods and passed out. Woke up a week later in the hospital and fabricated a huge false story about how they ran a drug house. SWAT absolutely destroyed their rented home, got them evicted, confiscated all of their firearms.

If someone has the balls to challenge your well being, return the favor.

Shoot to stop.

Not a pasta, you finfuck

Always always always shoot to kill.
For many if the reasons already stated, but also, dead men tell no tales. Of they're dead they can't dispute your claim to fearing for your life.

And at the end of the day, they Gave up their right to life when they endangered yours.

Disable

You don't always have time to think.
shoulders and knees.

Shoop da whoop

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Oh yea? That's cool. How many kills you got so far dude?

I shoot to stop. In a high stress situation when fine motor control goes to shit, the only way to effectively stop someone is to aim fr center mass.

This also increases the chance of hitting a major blood vessel, heart or spinal column, all of which tend to be the best way to stop an attacker. These also tend to be lethal.

So I am not specifically shooting to kill, but that there is a high likely hood that the most effective shots at stopping will also probably result in a fatality.

Kill or be killed

Any you my friend? How many kills do you have ? All these fags talking like they have real world experience gtfo

The legal system promotes shooting to kill. Blame the system if you can't take the blame yourself.

shoot to stop. if they're still standing you haven't shot them enough.

when you stop shooting they should be laying motionless on the ground posing no threat to anyone. sadly that often means they're also dead.


tell anyone who dislikes that to go fuck themselves and that the world isn't sunshine and rainbows

Depends. Are they white or another race?

I have no kills yet, I've only had a carry for 2 years, shot a man in the chest for trying to rush me with a knife. Didn't kill him. Had to pay the hospital bill though

Killing a man only removes one.

Disabling a man can make him a burden on his cohorts, assuming they will care for him.

It depends what your end goal is desu. Though in almost all instances, better safe than sorry.

>I know there is no shoot to injure but I was wondering why shooting to kill seems so awful if that's my only option


If anyone ever breaks into my house i fully intend to turn them into hamburger with my AK im going to use all 30 rounds

it doesn't, it just sucks that that is in fact your only option, for both parties

Confirmed bull hunter

I'd believe you but I don't. I've CCd for 6 years.

Not entirely accurate...

If you're skilled, you can choose locations to shoot, if the time allows.

Obviously not in a rush.

But assuming you had the additional half second, you could in theory choose where to place your rounds.

Not being a contrarian faggot, just a competative idpa shooter.

Bullshit. You're as bad as a fucking leaf.

Always shoot to kill, dumb dumb.

Congrats, I live in an area where no one has anything to lose and are drug addicts, if I didn't have my gun on my side 24/7 I'd be dead or atleast robbed, guns scare most unarmed people

>t. Jack bauer

How is this somehow beyond comprehension that someone can practice to be an excellent shooter?

Shoot to stop.

Shoot to kill is murder. Shoot to impair or disable is evidence that you were not in fear of your life. Shoot to scare has same problem. Remember that your bullet can injure or kill an innocent bystander - you should never shoot unless you are genuinely in fear for your life, then you shoot to stop your assailant, and keep shooting until s/he stops.

didn't AC/DC have a song about this¿

No you're being a contrarian faggot. You never shoot to injure, you shoot to stop the attacker. I agree if you're a good shot you can choose where to shoot, but you should always shoot at the largest region you can that has the greatest chance of the quickest stop. Usually this is the center of the chest, though there are circumstances where the hip is a better choice (e.g. he's wearing body armor).

But shooting to injure? You clearly aren't in fear of your life. Congratulations, you've just used unjustified lethal force, now he's the one shooting in self defense and if he dies you're going up for manslaughter 2.

My state actually has anti-maiming laws. You cannot purposely aim for limbs.

please stfu you're embarrassing us

anyways the correct answer is always mag dump centre mass until they're down and not moving

its not about being an excellent shooter. It's about only stupid people that watch too much TV make the argument that somehow extreme shooting skill will be able to allow you to expertly cripple someone into submission with a gun.

Simply not the case. Most of the time, when people get shot, especially with common caliber bullets like 9mm, adrenaline allows the person who got shot to run and shoot through the pain as though nothing happened. I'm sure someone can post the webm of the nigs breaking into that guys garage and getting shot but they still sprint out of the garage - full of bullets - at full speed.

If you are in a life threatening situation, you don't want to risk that still very capable person to run at you/shoot at you. So you gun them down until they stop moving. This is what cops are trained to do. Not because cops need to be brutal killing machines but because its the only sane way of approaching self defense.

Also, fyi, dead men tell no tales, and living men can sue you for shooting them. Happens more often than you think.

You have half a second to react. Usually only well trained will be able to react fast enough. And any of them trained enough will know.. You shoot to kill.

I like having options, I would never adopt a blanket policy.

What if you adopt a blanket policy and then run into a situation where that policy isn't the optimal response?

See? You just fucked yourself.

Just know how to shoot, where to aim, and hit what you're aiming at.

Don't try to break everything down into X's and O's, "Oh, if somebody does this, I'll do THAT! And if somebody does that, I'll do THIS!"

Rules are for people who can't think for themselves and need to go open a book to find out what they should do.

Sub-humans.

You obviously shoot to stop, just that the target dying is the most guaranteed state of being stopped
>mfw military guard duty protocols dictate firing a warning shot before aiming for the leg should suspects not respond amicably to your callouts