Did Korra ruin Avatar?

Did Korra ruin Avatar?

We'll it certainly ended avatar.

You're probably retarded if you think something good can be retroactively ruined by a separate, bad, thing.

this is true though

it definitely destroyed its legacy

Korra got aang's spirt erased so kinda

Egh, things started going downhill about season three anyway.

Sozin's Comet was amazing

I'll admit that knowing where Korra and the comics go makes me enjoy Avatar slightly less, but it doesn't make it a fundamentally worse show in any respect

She was cute tho

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ATLA Book 3 was a mess and I still don't think the Lion Turtle and Magical Dick Rock were good resolutions to Aang's problems

Yes.

It single handily killed the chance of us getting another avatar series. what do you think

Korra obviously wasn't perfect. There were pacing issues and executive meddling from day one.

But the original and its deus ex machina ending weren't perfect either. Neither ruined the franchise.

Does a loud brown lesbian screeching "I'M SPECIAL" in your face ruin your mood?

Asami pls go and stay go

only if the writing's bad

no fuck off you fuck

no nick did that

The first series is still great. Korra just killed it off and made it so we'll never see another show again.

season 4 of Korra sucks so much because of how great season 3 was. Zaheer and the Red Lotus were fantastic. The lesbian cop out was not.

Im happy to remember ATLA as its own entity separet from Korra. But ya it burried the series by the end.

Also while the Wan episodes where the highlight of season 2 I really hated how they added in Ravaa to the Avatar cycle, fucking light dark bullshit in a show about balance

No.

The creators did that if anyone is to blame.

Korra's just the gun.

you korra haters are some of the most retarded people ever

No one went into Korra wanting to hate it. I gave it every benefit of the doubt but it still disappointed me.

Honestly the contrast between Korra and Aang initially really drew me into the series, it was clear they didnt want to tread old ground. So having this cock sure fuck up Avatar was an interesting change of pace from Humble peace and love Spirit Kid.

Shame they did fuck all with it, expected the audience to keep throwing roses at her feet when she continually fucks up with little to no consequence, and the grand result of her series long character arc was a Talk no Jutsu

No, but I'll admit their emotional bonding consisting only of a single letter kinda did.

They didn't pull a Sailor Moon, or a Bert and Ernie, or any other sneaky implied relationship trope. They just kinda said 'this is it now'.

>Yeah, we were very afraid that Nick would do terrible things to us if we were more honest about it
>Like move our show online
>Put it on a death slot
>Not advertise our series
>Reduce our budget
>Cheap out of a series agreement
>Oh wait...

And strictly speaking no. Nothing ruined avatar for me. Korra was just had an immense amount of wasted potential, with poor character consistency plaguing korra, a lack of prioritisation on interesting plot threads affecting the writing, EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT IN SEASON 2 GODDAMN, Why is tenzin unable to spirit walk, why was avatar aang displayed as being a crappy father when no justification was given for it (I refuse to believe he didn't teach his other kids airbending culture, let alone ditch them when going on holiday), and why is Jinora a walking deus ex machina.

That being said, I do still enjoy it, just not as much as the original series, simply because the show can be summed up as wasted potential and backroom fiascos.

Nobody was more hyped about Korra than me. Avatar with a hot-headed female protagonist, living in the age of radios and diesel cars? No way they can fuck it up, I've thought.
Well, I was wrong.

>female protagonist
The signs were all right there user. Sorry you didnt catch it.

I'm sorry no women ever loved you, user.

he's right you know

Korra sucked ass so much it was losing ratings, and Nick didn't want to waste money on it any more. The fault is all on the Korra team.

That has nothing to do with it even if true.

this

pathetic fucking thread

Korra bled viewers like a stuck pig, the writing was a special kind of bad that both repelled children, fans of the original and people that just wanted a good action show. It was a bad soap opera in animated form filled with unlikeable characters nobody wants to watch. Same with Thundercats reboot and Young Justice.

Korrasami fans are adamant that it was multiple letters even though Asami said she specifically read Korra's singular letter that she sent. They could have, at the very least, made it multiple letters instead of just one.

Anyway to answer OP's question, no, I don't think Korra ruined Avatar. There were a few things they did that I liked and things I disliked. I think if Nick were to announce a new series tomorrow people would still turn up to watch it.

M. Night still intends to direct and produce TLAS 2, despite it being 7 years since the first one was released and child actors are no longer children. He will be the final nail to this coffin.

ATLA is still one of if not the best animated series of all time (seriously, the only shows that come close off the top of my head are Samurai Jack and Batman The Animated Series. Avatar manages to do what they did, combined with a long form serialized storyline with worldbuilding and character development that makes Steven Universe look like Teen Titans Go).

And honestly Korra's failure even then was still only half the fault of the writers. The show was shitty, but it still got screwed by Nickelodeon, which in turn made the show shittier. If they were able to go into the project knowing that it would be a 4 season affair, we would have likely had a more coherent and cohesive story overall.

holy shit you sound like a bitch

Unless Nick lets him that's not going to happen.

This, though i didnt see those last two series so i cant say.

you know what pisses me off about korra?
i could see her fucking up for being too much of a hothead but instead every single time she ruins things by being too incompetent instead
thats the worst trait you can give to a main character

wow you guys sound so fucking stupid

>tfw i'm gonna read the comics because i want to see two girls kissing

> Young Justice was bad
I don't know where you came from, but you have to go back.

>www.pornhub.com

No but beginnings did damage the lore a little bit. Book 2 would have been much better without the magic kites and the "hurr turtle magic" origins of bending but I liked all the stuff about Aang being a shitty father and the conflict with his kids.

>that one autist who said growing up was trope

To the contrary, Legend of Korra is simply the manifestation of what happens when the creators have complete creative control over their project. DiMartino and Konietzko were the writers for the first season, and the writing quality of season one speaks for itself.

It is not an exaggeration to say DiMartino and Konietzko really are the George Lucas of Western animation. They thought so highly of themselves, they presumed they were able to write an entire season of their sequel series without outside help.

Legend Korra did not ruin Avatar. If anything, it is the pure product of its creators. Legend of Korra is the creator's vision unhindered by the contributions of external meddling.

> George Lucas of Western animation
Oh my god.

>The fault is all on the Korra team
And Nick barely advertising it, moving the time slots a bunch of times, etc.

Korra was shit, but you can't ignore the executive meddling.

At least the SW prequels had some funny moments, even if it was mostly unintentional. Korra didn't have the subpar acting, awkward dialogue, or, at the very least, a Palpatine-like character to make it watchable as a film, even just to laugh at it as example.

All I watched was a lot of great ideas poorly executed. And it annoys me today how amazing Korra could have been if someone spoke out and told Bryke the truth. It's strange seeing a show with great music, animation, and history be so mediocre.

Star wars prequels each had different villian because Lucas scrapped the over arching villian he originally planned.
Where as korra'so villian were to demonstrate perversions of noble goals.

I don't hate Korra, I'm just disappointed.

Sozin's comet wads a let down

Far better than most animated finales, or tv show finales period, but also a great letdown.

did they know they were gonna get more than one season
it just seemed like every season was super rushed for a conclusion
while with the last airbender its just one cohesive plotline the whole way through, like they knew they were gonna have three seasons from the start

It was originally a one season miniseries, which is why Aang solves all the problems at the end of Book 1. They they got Book 2, which was supposed to be the last one. That's why they crammed Wan in there and upped the stakes to avatar Satan. Midway through, they got confirmed for 3 & 4, which is why those are connected.

This.

Korra is a lesson to be learned. They had great ideas but they failed to mend them together, making a great series become a good trainwreck.

They tried to make the ideas flow like the first one, but the first avatar didn't had anything that needs to connect the story they were telling, they were free to pursue the past and everything else without the need to resolve things. They had one quest: Defeat the Lord of Fire. Everyone knew that the series would end when he did that, until then they were free to talk about magical meteors, inhuman tribesman all other bullshitery.

Korra didn't have a goal or clear destination, it tried to tell 10 stories at the same time and didn't get even one right.

the movie

Korra was just shitting on the corpse

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Where was their conviction from the AtLA age? They were in this same predicament with only getting 12 or so episodes in Book One of AtLA, and said fuck it, we're doing a long story and we don't give a shit if you cancel or don't renew us. if Korra had been an arc through all the seasons, had at least Aaron Ehasz to help guide them, Korra no doubt in my mind would be equal or better than AtLA, due to the enhanced soundtrack, better fight scenes, and nicer animation.

How the fuck do they screw that up?

But they didn't WANT to do a long story with Korra, they just ended up doing it because they kept getting renewed.

The PT is much better than the OT though.
20% worse execution of an infinitely more interesting plot.

First season was... Alright. In a YA dystopia novel sort of way. Season 2 just sucked balls with all the alien billshit and the weird time skip.

>/thread/
now sage

>it tried to tell 10 stories at the same time and didn't get even one right.
Credit where credit's due, it got one or two right.

Tenzin was pretty good as a character.

No they did, they thought they were only getting the limited episodes season so they cut it into mini arcs. Once they found out they were getting more seasons they still did mini arcs until Season 3 to beginning of 4. The question is what if they just did arcs and played hard on Nick for more episodes, not what they did.

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Yes, yes it did.

I dont like how each season in the series could have been a plot line for the show, especially the first season

> Fucking light dark bullshit in a show about balance

This.

I would've loved to see an Avatar absorb Vaatu and actually follow the theme of balance and ACTUALLY follow what the last show was about.

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Where did they say that? I'd be embarrassed if they planned it ahead and DARK AVATAR is what they came up with. Then again, I shouldn't be surprised at Byrke being shitty.

I think you misinterpreted my reply. I'm saying they went for mini arcs instead of a single arc, which is why they fucked up as they were in this same predicament for AtLA.

>Show was big with young boys
>Make all the characters old ladies

You hit the nail on the head.

Hell, check out the credits for an average Avatar episode compared to Korra. You'll notice there are like 8 or so writers and people dealing with directing and shit like that for an Avatar episode usually. Do you know how many people usually worked on Korra? 3. Mike, Bryan and maybe one or two other guys who were basically yes men.

Bryke are good idea guys, but when it comes to flat out writing without a leash, like Lucas, they suck ass.

Fuck you that's depressing.

well shit. you're right though
No Korra ruined Korra. Its easy for me to see the last Air Bender as its own series when I watch it but Korra as a continuation when I watch Korra.
I wish I could love Korra, I really do.
This
I like Tenzin too user. Its a shame, if he had other good characters to bounce off of he'd probably be GOAT in the avatar verse.

At least most of them were waifu material.
Lin a best.

Lin and Pema should have been a composite character to improve the story.

>People talk about how Avatar Wan is the silver lining of this series
>turns out it's actually one of the worst parts of the series

What did they mean by this?

kataang ruin avatar

Korra was better than Airbender you retards.

>Bryke are good idea guys,
No, no they are not. LoK shows that they are terrible writers and also terrible idea guys.

>I would've loved to see an Avatar absorb Vaatu and actually follow the theme of balance and ACTUALLY follow what the last show was about.
Korra sort of did that without Vaatu by getting involved in things in the first place. If chaos and destruction and evil are needed to oppose harmony and order and good times for all, that did happen.

>Did Other M ruin Metroid?
Yes OP.

>"But Prime trilogy sucked to-

The romance in ATLA sucked period. It was even worse in Korra somehow.

The Legend of Korra absolutely ruined the Avatar canon and it's existence is a mistake

No, it just didn't have a clear trajectory. Avatar followed the three-act Joseph Campbell structure that was really satisfying.

Korra was like, well, where does the story go after that? And it certainly went in some interesting and bold directions but wasn't wholeheartedly satisfying the way Avatar was.

>Korra
>anyways as bad as THE BABY
LOL

Nah, they're different enough and not a direct continuation anyway. If Korra bothers you, you can just ignore it and nothing changes in Atla.

no bryke did that

Nuktuk was hot

It wasn't alone. The horrible movie and shit-tier comics definitely helped poison the franchise. Korra was just the finishing blow.

Agreed

>salty zutara shipper

And a bad Talk no Jutsu to boot, like it wasn't even a well done one either.

You know for a second when I read this I was genuinely wondering what movie your were talking about. Thanks for making me remember that fucking abomination.