>Brad Bird refuses to make Incredibles sequel because no ideas measure up to the original >Brad Bird's passion project Tomorrowland is a massive flop >Brad Bird suddenly realizes time is right for (guaranteed financially successful) Incredibles sequel
This is how shit gets made.
Isaac Cox
I can't believe Tomorrowland is any one's passion project
David Collins
>caring about NuPixar Just let me know when I can watch RataTWOey
Dominic Diaz
They should make a live action version
Brayden Brown
>decides to make a sequel after finishing another project what seems to be the problem here?
Jack Hall
Will it be better than Toy Story 7 though?
Chase Powell
it won't live up to Shadman's re-imagining
Luis Thompson
>Brad Bird's passion project Tomorrowland is a massive flop THAT shitshow was his passion project? That was Jupiter Ascending trash-tier.
Connor Russell
Tomorrowland is top comedy. The ending diversity montage makes me laff every time.
Charles Hernandez
No white woman has a waist slim enough for an ass that big
Chase Bennett
Not really. He got hired by Disney to direct it. Lindelof was the one who go it going.
Jordan Bell
lindelof has a passion for being a horrible writer
Michael Jones
Yea that's horseshit all the way through.
Tomorrowland is pure Bird from the retro-futurist designs to the classical liberal crypto-Libertarian HG Wells futurist message.
Caleb Lewis
whatever happened to that beautiful piece of cunny from tomorrowland?
Colton Sullivan
I still think Cars, Ratatouille, Monsters Inc, Nemo and the three Toy Stories are much better than the Incredibles
Bentley Hughes
I still think The Incredibles are much better than Cars, Ratatouille, Monster Inc, Nemo and the three Toy Stories
Nathan Bennett
Brad Bird always said he wanted to make a sequel and had ideas for it, but wanted to wait until the right story came along.
Almost Brad Bird's entire film career is a throbbing boner for 60s retrofuture sci-fi. See Iron Giant. Problem was he had Lindelof in the writer's room.
Christopher Torres
>Up >The Incredibles >Inside Out >Toy Story >WALL-E >Finding Nemo >Brave >Ratatouille >Monsters, Inc. >The Good Dinosaur >A Bug's Life >Cars
>horseshit
>any prequel / sequel / midquel
Christopher Sullivan
the leftovers?
Jacob Myers
So I guess that explains why 90% of the movie takes place on earth and is a character struggle between a faith-based character and a science-based character, right?
Austin Myers
Why do people act like Tomorrowland was never racially diverse when the Pin sequence ends on an Indian girl inviting you to sit next to her on the rocket ship
Samuel Lewis
Is horrible
Evan Jackson
Pixar should just focus on frozen 2
Evan Fisher
You know that the reason Tomorrowland came out so shit is >Damon Lindelof
Brandon Allen
>that feel when I made a fake logo for a thread as soon as the film was announced and Sup Forums spent the thread complaining about how shit it looked >that feel when the official logo is virtually identical feels mediocre man
Camden Ward
post your fake logo.
Landon Howard
90 percent of the movie is also about bitching about how popular dystopian and postapocalyptic narratives are and wanting to go back to the good old optimistic days where the future was our dreams of rocket ships, jetpacks and robot buddies.
Jackson Cook
I liked how the first three credit cards at the end have damon lindelof's name large and centered, with brad bird's name and others off to the side
Oliver Powell
are you attempting to imply that brad bird operates via the "tell, don't show" creative philosophy? Because that's what it seems like.
Also optimism is unsustainable without semi-constant advancement.
Nathan Foster
Reminder that Lindelof deleted almost all the "Walt was in on it" stuff because "That made the movie feel like too much of a Disney movie" and despite how much of the pre-release Lore stuff was based around Disney's connection to Plus Ultra, Lindelof mostly just used it for exposition.
Adam Foster
I'm saying that Brad Bird's a boomer nostalgic for what he grew up on and it really shows in a movie that spends an extended monologue on complaining about the current state of speculative fiction focusing on how we're all doomed might end up dooming us.
John Ramirez
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Matthew Cooper
That's about ten percent of the movie. The rest is lindelof bullshit.
Ethan Green
>tomorrowland shes fucking 27 wtf
Evan Smith
hes talking about the lolibot, not the old whore who pretended to be a high school student
Hudson Wood
Could calling the film the same name as a worldwide popular edm music festival have contributed to its flopping?
Henry Carter
Shit list.
Samuel Flores
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Nicholas Russell
>optimism is unsustainable Fuck off nihilist. >without semi-constant advancement. That's literally right now.
Joshua Gutierrez
Same >we’re starting a new society with limited numbers of people >so who do you want to invite? Like doctors, engineers, scientists? >no fuck that. Get some ballerinas and some homeless Asian kid with a guitar
Adam Long
Wells was a socialist through and through, what are you talking about?
Elijah Nguyen
nah negro, legitimate technological development stalled out in the late 90s and all we've gotten since have been variations on themes.
Michael Hernandez
Pixar didn't make Frozen
Ethan Turner
It sure had me fooled.
Oliver Reyes
He's views changed and evolved throughout his life. It many ways he was a kind of "liberal fascist." Go watch Things to Come. He argues for a benevolent rule by the most intelligent and enlightened. A harder version of Tomorrowland's message.
Michael Evans
The music festival stole the name from Disney in the first place you fucking hipsters.
Jaxon Nguyen
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Colton Walker
>technology has stalled since the 90s This is a legitimately retarded statement and perhaps the most retarded statement I've heard all day.
Carson Barnes
mah stem
Andrew King
Wait what was Walt Disney's connection to All Might and the Quirks?
Jackson Moore
>super collides >breakthrough nanotech >possible cure to Alzheimer's and some forms of Cancer >self piloting (and landing) spacecraft >two competing companies building a moon base >smartest computers ever designed now exist with the brain capacity of a small toddler >first ever head transplant happening at the end if 2017 >high end robotic prosthetics now with nerve attachments >fastest transportation ever conceived being built by Musk >""""stalled""""
Jace James
I guess he means technology that he uses on a daily basis
The last great leap forward that affected the public at large was rise of smartphones in 2007
Christian Price
>last great leap that I personally was aware of was smartphones The entire medical world has changed between the 90s to now, you realize that right? We now incorporate advanced robotic surgery arms and fucking lasers.
Anthony Collins
*Super collides
Nolan Baker
Notice I said that affected the public at large
The average joe on the street isn't going to know alot about CRISPR or Quantum Computing
Landon King
Self-driving cars by Google where the only accidents on their many mile's of self-driving in public roads were because of human drivers
David Miller
*colliders, Jesus fuck I can't spell today.
Dominic Wood
>Brad Bird refuses to make Incredibles sequel because no ideas measure up to the original
The first story deals with themes of nostalgia. Mr. Incredible and Frozone long for "the good ol' days." Dash does, too, even though he never personally lived them. Edna Mode does, too. And then there's Syndrome, who never quite let go of the past, either, and wants to be the superhero he never could. Ultimately, though, nostalgia wins the day. The old ways are proven right.
For a sequel, you could do more themes of nostalgia. You age the characters quite a bit (over a decade has passed since the last film, but you can have it take place twenty years after the first). Dash, Violet, and Jack-Jack are adults and a part of the first new generation of heroes since the ban on them has been lifted. Meanwhile, Bob and Helen are retired again, this time because they're too old. This new generation of heroes idolize the old generation. They want to be like Mr. Incredible. So, you play a twist on this and spoil the nostalgia by revealing that the superheroes weren't perfect, they were humans and humans are flawed. Maybe Mr. Incredible made mistakes early on in his career, maybe he even started out as a villain. And then you have the main villain be a retrosuperhero fanboy who doesn't believe this new generation is good enough (you can do 90's superhero jokes here), and he's purging the sinners, and the good guys use the Mr. Incredible was a villain reveal to through retrosuperhero fanboy villain off, ultimately leading to his defeat. While the first movie is about the glories of nostalgia, the sequel is about moving on and learning to look the past without rose-colored glasses and see it for what it is and appreciate it for what it is.
I mean, it's not the greatest story, I just wrote it right now, but it's a start.
Julian Ramirez
Every average shmuck has been effected by the change in medical technology over the last two or three decades. Being uninformed isn't an excuse that changes that.
Carter Martin
The average person has never been the focus of tech you retard.
They get what trickles down from tech made for organizations or specialty occupations
Ie. Gps, velcro,
Aaron Ward
>types this up on a computer (or phone) more powerful than any computer you could buy in the 90s using an internet that's way faster and more widespread I think your brain stalled out, bucko.
Camden Turner
>current political climate
oh god are they going to bring back gamma jack
Noah Cooper
Reminder he turned down The Force Awakens to do Tomorrowland.
Hunter Smith
The way tech works, that he doesn't get, is that organizations like the military hire tech companies to create new stuff for them, or these companies peddle their new tech to the medical industry or automative industries first. They won't take the time and financial risk to try to sell ground breaking stuff to the general masses first.
Only after are they proven to work, other companies will take the idea and dumb it down for mass appeal and specialize it for the consumer market
Jose King
But that's wrong >Ratatouille >The Incredibles >Toy Story >Wall-E >Finding Nemo >Monsters, Inc >Up >Brave >A bug's life >Cars
>horseshit
>Good Dinosaur >quels
Luis Thomas
Wouldn't have made a difference. TFA would have been a shit film regardless of the director because Kathleen Kennedy is the true director/writer of every new Star Wars movie, just like how Kevin Feige is the true director/writer for every MCU movie.