We're forcing on The Batman but don't forget that Wonder Woman sucks

>It was a fucking mess. There is a reason Patty Jenkins was dropped from Thor. Gal Gadot is pretty frustrated with the movie as well. Well for one, Jenkins cannot command the respect a director deserves. The director of a movie is the captain of the ship and needs to steer it. Jenkins is a total doormat and everyone walks over her. The production crew often supersedes her commands, she cant get the actors under control, and she's easily frustrated. Fucking Chris Pine on the days he was on set pretty much had to play Dad while she was Mom.

>"We have somebody within our community who has gotten inside information that broke my heart this week... because I have tremendous belief that Wonder Woman is gonna be awesome... and I heard it stinks, from the same person who told me that they heard that BvS stinks"

>"...both of us where so excited for this movie. Their response was 'I'm very disappointed in what I saw, and it seems similar, it seems like all of the problems are the same problems...that it's discombobulated, it doesn't have narrative flow, it's just very disjointed."

youtu.be/5rEYHUsEc18?t=1h41m32s

Assuming it is not yet another fanfic thread...

Then there is SOMEONE deeply involved in all DC movies fucking the montage.

Both Snyder movies suffered from this, so everybody assumed it was a Snyder problem, but then SS suffered from this as well and now (if true) Wonder Woman.

Find the motherfucker and fuck him.

>Find the motherfucker and fuck him.
this. fuck him and make him breakfast

because this amazing man ensured MCU domination for the rest of fucking forever

>but don't forget that Wonder Woman sucks

It's okay. Everybody forgot about that anyway.

I mean, considering everything else that's going on in the DCEU, how could anybody care about, of all things, Wondy right now?

>fucking the montage

What?

>linking to Collider.

Isnt this shit a bannable offense?

Honestly I assumed the fact that we're focusing on The Batman is an admission that Wonder Woman sucks.
It comes out in what, two months? Zero hype whatsoever. Barely any more for Justice League. There's no 1.jpg for Wonder Woman. You can't even bait that believably.

Given the press around this movie, it seems no one on set had any idea what this movie was supposed to be. The entire DCEU is just a desperate attempt to find footing by throwing everything and kitchen sink at the viewer

When Batman sucks, there's no hope for the rest.

I forgot this movie's coming out soon.

It's not Collider.

>Given the press around this movie
There's been press around this movie?

Poor press

>marvelshills in full effect

Granted the DC movies are not great, but if you think the Marvel films are anything better than fluff, I pity you.

I assume he meant the editing.

You are adorable.

This was too far along in production when BvS came out to fix it, right? Seems like theres nothing left but to wait for the inevitable.

>but if you think the Marvel films are anything better than fluff, I pity you.
so you pity every single person on the planet?

>DCfags always have to bring up the MCU
>implying half of the Marvel films are not great

Literally all they had to do was adapt her post-crisis origin. How do you fuck that up?

Still, sucks to be Patty.

Most of the marvel films are fluff, but they're competent fluff. They're enjoyable action shlock, and that's all most of them are intended to be. For the average moviegoer, that's enough.

>regurgitatimh that letter from the so called disgruntle ex employee.


All though i have noticed a problem with the media shifting blame or pressure. First all the movies are Zack's fault. And now its gonna be Ben's because reasons.

Why would it be Ben's fault? He stepped down because he didn't like what was going on.

>same group that says Ben Affleck wants to drop out of Batman says Wonder Woman is a mess

Really makes you think

Another floop, bomb with Gal Gadot?
Really?
"I am surprised"

>>same group

For you BVS and SS are great movies?

>DCEU fan immediately says "MARVEL SUCKS TOO!"
Yeah, we know. It's more fun to shit on th DCEU becuase it's a bigger trainwreck.

What the fuck are you talking about?

SchmoesKnow and Collider Movie Talk are hosted by the same people

Is this another sign? Just look at the marketing of Suicide Squad. This movie is a ghost town in that regard and it's fucking Wonder Woman.

>there is SOMEONE deeply involved in all DC movies fucking the montage
No, the problem is that there ISN'T anyone like that. Nobody who's actually making coherent decisions. Not Johns, not Snyder, not Affleck, nobody.

MoS and BvS suffered from Snyder and Goyer being shit, SS suffered from WB being cheap bastards and WW looks to be much the same way.

He didnt step down[from directing ] because of WB but because of pressure to reveal everything, no one caring about the movies hes doing now and hes getting a divorce.
WB let him take a load off his shoulders because hes right its cant do both if folks want the best performance out of him.

>the media
kek

>First all the movies are Zack's fault.
Nobody has ever claimed that any movie other than BvS or MoS was Zack Snyder's fault.

>And now its gonna be Ben's because reasons.
Reason #1: Affleck would appear to hold a considerable amount of sway at WB and DC because he's an Oscar winning actor/director who has now donned the cowl of the most popular superhero on the planet and the studio's biggest money maker.

Reason #2: The Batman movie appears to be in utter disarray at the moment and he was the director/star of the fucking thing. People are gonna look at him.

...

>can't keep ADULTS under control
Teachers seem to have it easy when getting students to stop acting up in class

Who keeps trying to make Gal Gadot happen? It's never going to happen. She was never any more than a mildly attractive extra in the Fast and Furious movies.

>"DCEU movies will be great thanks to Ben!"
>movies are shit
>"Why are people blaming Ben for this?"

You fucks were blaming him for the reshoots or his fault DC 'became jokey' because his movies suckef so much

Ben isnt their only Oscar winner/nominated in the studio. But the media is treating him like hes in charge of the whole thing and can pull everything they want out his ass exactly the way the what it. Its basically been 'we want this and this that way and if its not pandering to me than its a suck ass movie that i refuse to look at a different way or outside my comfort zone.

Amovie we know nothing about outside 4 actors starring in is in disarray. Again you are feeding from the media. They dont know shit just like us but you are acting like theyve seen a completed movie which doesnt even have a release date. Hell its the fucking fladh we should be worrying about but theres not a zip because i agree about Batman everyone knows him and wants him to be thier way.

stop rageposting on your phone

The gang rape scene won't go down well with the critics

no scene will go down well with critics

>critics
>giving a feminist gurl power movie a bad score

Didn't this fanfic come out months ago? Why is it being posted again now?

I wonder who could be behind this.

DC and bad acting, directing and storytelling trump any "gurl power" messages

You mean just like Ghostbusters 2016?

a fair amount will say it's retrograde and the others will say it's shit despite the feminism being a good point

this isn't Ghostbusters where they had to take a stand against "misogynistic dudebros"

>gang rape scene

Is this true? Did they actually include the very worst bit from Azzarello's run in the movie?

Looks like her power level is growing with each subsequent film.

yes, and it's as made up as your example

Ghostbusters wasn't DC though

>Nobody has ever claimed that any movie other than BvS or MoS was Zack Snyder's fault.
To be fair we kind of have and for good reason. Zack's got his fingers on the tentpole films; everything has to gel with his vision. He's the closest thing WB has to a Feige.

Not really

When people criticize Wonder Woman they might mention Snyder because it's clear it's following his shitvision, but I never saw anyone blaming Suicide Squad on Snyder

>You fucks were blaming him
lol prove it

>Ben isnt their only Oscar winner/nominated in the studio
No, he's just their most valuable, most famous and most important.

>But the media
What media? You can't just so "THE MEDIA", that's a term so broad that it's useless.

>MoS and BvS suffered from Snyder and Goyer being shit, SS suffered from WB
You mean financial successes that only hipster critics don't like?
>WW looks to be much the same way.
A success? Good.

haha

>You mean financial successes that only hipster critics don't like?
I'm pretty sure Snyderfags have described the MCU the exact same way. You liked a shitty movie, it's alright to admit it.
>A success?
lol

Suicide Squad was bland quip goofy Marvel garbage BECAUSE it didn't follow Snyder. Man of Steel along with Batman v Superman are still heavily discussed, you actually remember the movies after you watch. But Suicide Squad? People like cosplaying as its Harley. That's about it. Otherwise no one cares.

>Man of Steel along with Batman v Superman are still heavily discussed
because of how terrible they were

>BECAUSE it didn't follow Snyder
>implying there is literally no other way to make a superhero movie outside of Snyder's supposed grand design

>Man of Steel along with Batman v Superman are still heavily discussed
So is The Room, I can do it too.

>So is The Room, I can do it too.
No it isn't. It's mentioned in every thread to discredit the DCEU but other than that nobody actually talks about the content of the film.

Clickbait articles. Interviews asking him about Batman which only has a script so he cant say shit. Things like that. Hell that rumor he was leaving just last week.

And im not loooing back just for you to prove me right on your own. In anoth thread or later in this one.

And this is personal opinions especially when a few reviewers complained about WB using Oscar winners/nominees as a bad thing. Hes not the most important as opposed folks are going for him because hes playing Batman so soon after Bale thus they want the DC character thats casualbait.

>I have tremendous belief that Wonder Woman is gonna be awesome
Why would you do that? even the trailer was meh.

>to discredit the DCEU
Are you Sean Spicer? Seriously, you sound like you work for some sort of propaganda department.

>nobody actually talks about the content of the film
There have been entire books writtten about The Room. Even if your argument did ring true, I've got another example for you. How about the Star Wars prequels? People sure talk a lot about those and they came out decades ago. Does all the discussion mean that they're good movies? No, you fucking moron.

BUT WAIT!

THERE'S MORE

I have a source. It said Justice League is really good. So, there you go.

>Source says BvS was bad
>Ant Man was good
Dubious at best.

Yeah but DC hasn't even managed competent fluff yet, which is a serious problem. I really want Wonder Woman and Aquaman to do well but I'm not hopeful at this point.

but both of those is true tho

>DUDE JUST SHOVE YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND
>IT WORKS

>Man of Steel along with Batman v Superman are still heavily discussed, you actually remember the movies after you watch

No, they're only still discussed because DC shills are still desperately trying to convince people those flicks didn't suck, and then the rest of us just laugh at them and go on with our lives.

The joke is that anonymous sources can only be trusted with a grain of salt or less. You can say anything you want and claim it came from a number of anonymous sources and people will take it at face value if it meshes with their beliefs.

For example, if I went on a podcast and said that "Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2" is planning to cast Jon Hamm as Dick Ryder, nobody would believe me.
But if I went on a podcast and said that several sources close to the film reported that Jon Hamm is a lock to play Dick Ryder, then more people would believe me because I supposedly got my news from people involved on the film.

It's a matter of verification. It's also why you can't trust rogue government accounts on Twitter, like @RoguePOTUSStaff.

>Spoiler going full autist in a DCEU thread
As usual

>Marvel shills are still desperately trying to convince people those flicks did suck
ftfy

I can understand silence on JL, but absolutely no news coming from this cannot bode well for WB, like not even an obligatory press release of 'unity' and some sort of critic screening

>People are saying a bad movie is bad
>This makes me irrationally angry
>I'll call him mad, that always works

Really made me think.

Don't bully him. I actually kind of miss when Sup Forums had several active tripfags. They're a rare breed these days and must not be bullied.

>everyone on the planet is a marvel shill

and they make less money on each new Gal Gaot movie

Hey at least Marvel shills know what they have, mediocre action movies that will entertain the masses for a brief time until the next one is released. DCEU fags on the other hand are in a fucking Wonderland of their own denial given how shit each film has been. They grasp straws trying to validate their shitty taste.

>People think this movie is bad
>Everyone on earth is just a paid disney shill
>It can't be that the movie was actually bad.

We still have Boco, our resident tripfag. Isnt that enough?

Honestly, I'd prefer 'Competently made popcorn flick' to whatever the hell DC is doing right now.

>r. Man of Steel along with Batman v Superman are still heavily discussed,
I dunno if you play video gaems at all but are you aware of how EA handled the consumer response to Mass Effect 3's ending?
It was derided to an extreme never seen before in the genre. People got up in arms about it enough to raise thousands of dollars that they donated to charity just to get Bioware to respond to their claims, one guy got butthurt enough to sue the company for false advertising, The sheer vitriol that the ending caused even got some national attention as it was covered on NPR. It contributed to EA being voted the worst company in america by the Forbes poll, twice in a row.

And what did EA do? The next shipment of ME3 discs had a caption. "The most talked about ending in video game history!" on the back.

"Heavily discussed" never means "good".
Hell, we still talk about 9-11 and the holocaust.

Give me a Superman movie with the tone/charm of STAS any day. They pretty much nailed every Supes related character anyway

I most definitely view this version of Superman as Judeo-Christian, in the essentially Christian humanist terms of Last Temptation. Beyond the obviously messianic and disruptive nature of his abilities, the film routinely comments on the tension between his sense of duty to the world and his human interests and attachments ("you don't owe this world a thing," and what-not.) Clark's inner conflict is essentially the same as Jesus' in that particular story. Moments like the fire rescue in Mexico feel really uncomfortable not just because of some cosmic horror at the thought of a living God, but because Clark himself seems really uncomfortable with that association...the divine implications of his powers are at odds with his expressed sense of identity, which is quite humble and human.

His entire conflict with Batman falls apart upon that realization. Batman doesn't back down because he's convinced of Superman's inherent goodness, but because he's convinced of his essential humanity. His construction of Superman as some inscrutable force collapses when he realizes he's a son who fears for his mother's life. Of course, despite that humanizing reality, Supes still martyrs himself. A spear is involved, he winds up in a Pieta pose, etc. If it was Willem Dafoe, it'd be a pretty similar movie.

It's all gorgeous. You actually have to understand the characters and think a little bit to enjoy Snyder movies. You want quip garbage over that? I'm sorry you can't enjoy BvS. Really, I'm sorry. You're missing out on a lot.

We've had two goddman movies of Clark = Jesus in Gethsemene
And that's like 5% of the Jesus story. When can we get the oher 95%? The part where Jesus is this guy that goes around talking to people and making friends and gathering followers?
Apparently never, because now Batman is the one that gets to have disciples.

Pasta isnt on the menu tonight

That would be nice. The new movies really seem to have missed out on the actual charm of superman.

>And that's like 5% of the Jesus story. When can we get the oher 95%? The part where Jesus is this guy that goes around talking to people and making friends and gathering followers?
Snyder skipped all that, because once Jesus resurrected he buggered off and still hadn't returned. That 95% is cut, much like Superman's Clark Kent identity.

BvS is the greatest superhero film in history. No one has ever been able to point out a legitimate flaw.

I'd prefer them to continue to make high quality films. If you want garbage, you have Marvel.

What are they missing out on excatly that isnt superman?
Wanting to do good dispite what others say.
Actually leting us see just how these critisms are effecting him?
How important his parents and Lois are to him? Though ghost dad can leave.

>I most definitely view this version of Superman as Gay, in the essentially Gay terms of Last Temptation. Beyond the obviously Gay and Gay nature of his abilities, the film routinely comments on the sexual tension between his sense of booty and his human interests and attachments (in cock and what-not.) Clark's inner conflict is essentially the same as Gachi-Muchi in that particular gym. Moments like the orgy in Mexico feel really uncomfortable not just because of some masturbating at the thought of a living God, but because Clark himself seems really uncomfortable with that association...the gay implications of his powers are at odds with his expressed sense of sexuality, which is quite gay and hot
>His entire FWB relationship with Buttman falls apart upon that realization. Butttman doesn't back down because he's convinced of Superman's dick , but because he's convinced that he is the boss of this gym. His construction of Superman as some insatiable force collapses when he realizes he's a fag who fucks for his mother's life. Of course, despite that humanizing reality of sucking cock, Supes still fucks himself. A spear is involved, he winds up in a Pieta pose, etc. If it was Gachi-Muchi, it'd be a pretty similar porno.
>It's all really gay. You actually have to love the smell of your own farts and make up bullshit to enjoy Snyder movies. You want a good movie over that? I'm sorry you can't enjoy sucking Snyder cock. Really, I'm a massive faggot. You're missing out on a lot of dicks in your face.

A lot of effort for just a gay joke. I give this post a C-

The fact that this rat faced kike was chosen to represent fucking WONDER WOMAN makes me never want to watch anything DC related ever again.

Only Jonah Hill is a bigger example of jewish nepotism than this

I'd prefer if they just made the movies they wanted to make how they wanted to make them and not have to worry about forcing them to fit into a cinematic universe

Did Batman being a killer really hurt the movie for a lot of people? I didn't mind.

Sounds like I have just as much writing ability as Snyder then.

Agreed. Good movies don't have obnoxious fanboys obsessively posting elaborate essays and creating safe space threads to justify their very existence.

>because this amazing man ensured MCU domination for the rest of fucking forever
Having a rival is good, it helps you be better and try new things. MCU has become a stale formula, Doctor Strange bored me.

>DCEU will bomb and die.

Finally.

>MCU has become a stale formula, Doctor Strange bored me.
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