Now that his career has come to an end,rate all of his works so far that you have seen. For me,it's:
Fire Walk With Me > The Return > Blue Velvet > Mullholland Drive > Twin Peaks > The Straight Story > Elephant Man > Lost Highway > Inland Empire > Eraserhead
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>Now that his career has come to an end
What did he mean by this?
Also
>loves the return
>eraserhead is last on the list
>The Return
Wow, that is very far from "all his works". You didn't even include Industrial Symphony No. 1 or Rabbits.
>Lost Highway > Twin Peaks > Mullholand > Eraserhead > Blue Velvet >FWWM > The Return > Inland Empire > Elephant Man
Still have to watch Straight Story.
I missed where you'd said
>that you have seen
You should go watch them both.
>absolute plebs forgetting Dune.
>now that his career has come to an end
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I should add that Industrial Symphony No. 1 is a bit hard to find outside of YouTube, but it exists there if anyone is interested. I suppose I'll give my ranking now.
Twin Peaks > Lost Highway > Blue Velvet > Wild at Heart > Mulholland Drive > Eraserhead > Fire Walk with Me > Industrial Symphony No. 1 > The Return > Inland Empire > Rabbits > The Elephant Man > Dune
I have yet to see The Straight Story, but I'm going to fix that this week.
Lads,is there an interview or documentary in which Lynch talks about meeting a huge rabbit? It might be a childhood memory thing, possibly about being startled by or startling "the biggest jack rabbit you've ever seen" on a field or something like that, the details are hazy.
I swear I remember him telling this story somewhere, but I can't find it in any of his talks or interviews.
also, enjoy felgood-kino:
>Twin Peaks (The Return) being anywhere near his best
His best works are Blue Velvet and Lost Highway, with everything else being noticeably worse (except Eraserhead)
At least Dune is discussed on an occasional basis here. Wild at Heart is the one everyone forgets, even though it's great.
>even though it's great
The first part is the best thing Lynch has made.
The rest of the film is a big dropoff.
Eraserhead - 8/10
The Elephant Man - 8/10
Dune - been a while since I've seen it
Blue Velvet - 8/10
Wild at Heart - 7/10
Twin Peaks s1 - 10/10
Twin Peaks s2 - 7/10
Twin Peaks FWWM - 8.5/10
Lost Highway - 7/10
The Straight Story - 8/10
Mulholland Drive - 8/10
Inland Empire - 6/10
Twin Peaks s3 - 10/10
>Twin Peaks s1 - 10/10
>Twin Peaks s3 - 10/10
>better than every lynch film
Oh dear...
>The Return 10/10
Rewatch it and you'll se the cracks. It's similar to S2.
>Chris Dotson
wasn't expecting to see him that video. Neat
>ignoring Lynch's magnum opus
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>Dune - been a while since I've seen it
Why even say this? You know it's shit, just say it is.
>about meeting a huge rabbit?
are you curious because you have a similar faint memory about it? I know I do
Mulholland Dr. > Blue Velvet >
Twin Peaks > Lost Highway > Eraserhead > The Elephant Man > The Straight Story
Autism award of the day
Reading some news articles somewhere.
See that David Lynch is doing a Kafka film of some sort.
Oh, so that's why you guys have been memeing so hard about Lynchian and Kafkaesque lately.
Half of the season is pointless and goes nowhere, just like S2. What was the point of the doppelganger? What was his endgame? What was the point of Audrey? As a whole, it was bad.
>FWWM > Mulholland Drive > The Return > Twin Peaks > Eraserhead > Inland Empire > Lost Highway
Alan Smithee directed that, though.
Unlike S2, these were plot elements there to misdirect you. Audrey / the doppelganger are used as tools to reveal the nature of the reality Twin Peaks inhabits - that is, it a lot more of it happens in character's heads than the audience is led to believe. Audrey and the doppelganger are projections of Cooper's unconscious.
I'm so glad I live in a world where David Lynch made movies with Kyle MacLachlan and Laura Dern.
>Inland Empire is a great fi-
>A drunk octopus wants to fight
What did Lynch mean by this?
David Lynch has a songwriting credit on Out of Sand. It plays during the finale. Its been confirmed.
>-lm
He didn't direct anything for ten years between Inland Empire and Twin Peaks and he's 70
>a bit hard to find outside of YouTube
So it's really easy to find then?
Good:
Fire Walk With Me > Mulholland Drive > Blue Velvet > Elephant Man > Twin Peaks
Overrated shit eaten up by retards who don't even know what they are watching but misguidedly think it's deep and then look up interpretations online and after having everything spoonfed to them somehow come to the conclusion that this is good filmmaking:
Eraserhead > The Return > Lost Highway > Wild at Heart > Inland Empire
Come at me fucking LYNCHED ECKS DEE cocksuckers.
Forgot about The Straight Story because it's the most forgettable thing I've ever watched. Doesn't really fit in either of the brackets so put it in between I guess.
No he didn't.
INLAND EMPIRE>The Return>Blue Velvet>Mulholland Drive>Lost Highway>FWWM>Eraserhead>Twin Peaks>The Straight Story>Wild at Heart>Elephant Man>Dune
>He didn't direct anything for ten years between Inland Empire
2014 Duran Duran: Unstaged (Video documentary)
2013 Nine Inch Nails: Came Back Haunted (Video short)
2013 Idem Paris (Video documentary short)
2012 David Lynch: Crazy Clown Time (Video short)
2011 The 3 Rs (Short)
2011 Interpol: I Touch a Red Button (Video short)
2010 42 One Dream Rush (Short)
2010 Lady Blue Shanghai (Short)
2010 Ariana Delawari: Lion of Panjshir (Video short)
2009 Moby: Shot in the Back of the Head (Video short)
2008 Bug Crawls (Short)
2008 Industrial Soundscape (Short)
2007 Blue Green (Video short)
2007 Out Yonder (Video short)
2007 More Things That Happened (Video)
2007 Absurda (Short)
2007 To Each His Own Cinema (segment "Absurda", special version)
2007 Boat (Video short)
2007 Dynamic:01: The Best of DavidLynch.com (Video documentary)
2007 Working with Marilyn Manson (Video documentary short)
he also has a new short film called 'WHAT DID JACK DO ?' that was screened at the Fondation Cartier pour l'art contemporain. It's 17 minutes long.
>and he's 70
So fucking what? He's gonna work until he dies because he enjoys it. Sick & tired of the ageist fucking attitudes with people nowadays. Harry Dean Stanton was 91 when he died, and he still worked.
>Fire Walk With Me > The Return
Normie detected
Normies are the people who are hailing The Return a masterpiece, and claiming it's got 'a bit of everything Lynch' in it. The same people who pretend to have watched Lynch films, yet give themselves away by saying that "Lynch films don't have closure."
>When David saw me, I instantly realized that he had not been informed I was here in Bydgoszcz. There was an undecipherable feeling in his eyes. I had not a lot of time to talk with him. Immediately after we shook hands, I handed then quite quickly the first picture with Robert Loggia and straight away felt that he was quite moved to be brought back 20 years ago with a picture he didn't know, with someone who has also left us quite recently. But what followed was truly unexpected to me. I gave him the wider picture featuring Jack. "Our dear Jack", as I said. In a second, David's eyes filled with tears. I had not anticipited this, of course. Intuitively, even if I had never done this before "in real life", I rubbed and tapped his shoulder. He tapped mine in return. “Fantastic, Roland” It was time for him to leave and fill his other obligations.
What did he mean by this?
90% of critics are normies then
>The Return that high
>Inland Empire that low
Why am I not surprised normies are also brainlets.
So the fuck what? My grandpa served in WW2, he's 90 years old and he was driving himself until a month ago. He's sharp as a tack, too. This month has been bad though. Pls keep him in your prayers, Sup Forums, he's a good guy.
Thanks for the this, it was a poignant read. I'd never seen it before.
Does that surprise you?
Inland Empire feels like a proto-return desu
Different subject matter but similar in structure
I agree with almost everything except The Return is great and not that hard to grasp really. I can't understand people's obsession with thinking it's some grand puzzle to be solved when it's rather self explanatory.
People who think Lynch's works are some sort of "puzzle" to solve are approaching them completely wrong. Their dreamlike, ambiguous structure isn't there to hide the real plot. Their structure is there to make the movie feel like a dream, both when watching it and recalling it.
When thinking about The Return, for example, I have a vague idea about the plot, but as soon as I grasp for deeper details it gets fuzzy. Just like a dream. Lynch uses recurring motifs, double meanings and unreliable narration to create a dream that people can experience without sleeping.
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>Lynch w Toruniu: "Lubię fotografować fabryki i nagie kobiety"
>"I like to photograph factories and naked women"
what did he meant by this
Lynch does tend to hide things he knows about dealing with the plot
In either Lynch One or Lynch Two, he's
talking to Laura Dern about a scene (the one where she stares into the camera, looking at the lost girl) and he tries to whisper his guidance to her so the documentary crew doesn't pick it up. Laura doesn't realize this, and she ends up repeating to make sure she's got it correctly. She asks him "like I'm looking at myself?" then he says "yes"
also, there's some behind the scenes footage on Mulholland Drive, where they're shooting the party scene and Lynch is talking to Naomi, Justin and Laura. Lynch immediately stops talking when he realizes he's being recorded and gives the camera a look that obvious signals to him to stop recording them.
>unreliable narration
What unreliable narration is in The Return?
As soon as cooper says "we live inside a dream" and his face gets superimposed, it's pretty obvious that the events that have happened are being recalled by Cooper, and may not have transpired exactly as we see them on screen.
wish he would do 1 more film
DC Sandman (Wesley Dodds)
>it's pretty obvious that the events that have happened are being recalled by Cooper, and may not have transpired exactly as we see them on screen.
Well, an example that isn't taken straight out of your ass please
A candy coloured clown....
The Return is even worse than Dune, and that's saying something. Only normies will disagree.
true patrician ranking coming through
inland empire > the return > mulholland drive > fire walk with me > lost highway > twin peaks > blue velvet > eraserhead > wild at heart > the straight story > the elephant man > dune
>patrician
>Blue Velvet anywhere but first
The POTUS is 72
LYNCHED ECKS DEE
david lynch is just a weirdo
he's not a genius, you're all nuts
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that's just screen memory from the greys, don't worry about it, user.
I don't share it, but I remember hearing it from Lynch and would love to hear it again.
>I can't understand people's obsession with thinking it's some grand puzzle to be solved when it's rather self explanatory.
What's your idea of the ending then? Is it Laura awakening from a dream or are they lost in some alternate reality? And how does this ending fulfill the story? How do you begin to justify all the time wasted on meaningless characters whose plot threads amounted to nothing? Beyond that I also have a limited patience for Lynch's style of direction when no one's there to keep him on a leash, because he has this thing for dragging every single scene out longer than it needs to be and it just makes them into any combination of awkward, tedious and / or annoying. The worst example of this probably being Inland Empire, or in The Return, episode 8. Go ahead and call me reddit, but I seriously did not need to watch Lynch's artsy fartsy visuals smeared across the screen for 40 fucking minutes just to see how Bob came into the world, something that never even mattered nor needed expanding upon in the first place. It was a waste of time, literally just Lynch masturbating on screen and people eating it up like candy. Any other director could've done the same thing but they would've been eaten alive for it, even by artfags.
His best works that I listed above are when his weird ideas come through but are still kept grounded enough that there's a comprehensible narrative with a solid structure and purpose for you to follow. That's the difference between what I consider his good works and what's just overrated nonsense that, sure, CAN be deciphered, but why exactly should people spend so much time trying to piece together an intentionally scrambled narrative? What's the point of telling stories like this? And how do people actually get any enjoyment out of just being confused for several hours? It just seems like pretension to me.
I might've liked The Return more if it had been half as long, but as it is there's just too much needless crap in it.
Imagine genuinely believing this about Lost Highway. Truly pathetic.
>3 hours of nonsense that amounts to "it was all a dream, dude's a nutter"
Wow!! Sensational storytelling, so deep, really made me ponder the meaning of life. If you didn't like it that just means ya got LYNCHED!
>plot threads
fuck off plot plebs, movies aren't about your insipid little fucktard wikipedia blurbs where you can jack each other off how "deep" and "complex" and "consistent" the basic events stringing scenes together are where everything has to have "an arc" and "overlying structure"
I genuinely hope you kill yourself you retarded subhuman faggot before you make another post
Go to bed @BeerStix of Twitter.com.
Fubuki is shit.
You couldn't even put into words what makes The Return so good in your opinion because all you base it off of is your feelings and you lack any sort of critical mind to it just because it's "art", as if that for some reason should exclude it from critique. Go fuck yourself, artfag.
>hurr it w8st muh precious time I use to shitpost on Sup Forums and fap to fart porn
>hurr muh plot threads
How's it like living life as an autist with ADD?
Wild At Heart is one of those weird situations where the pieces are all amazing and you go back to them again and again, but the whole thing together is noticeably lesser for being continuous. True Romance has the same issue.
>implying S3's greatest strength isn't that it both embraces and emboldens S2
>not watching Kill Baby Kill and Carnival of Souls as a double feature every Halloween
Inland Empire is the movie every ten year old at the time DV tape became a big thing was trying to make and it's aging incredibly well.
Yeah. The most impressive thing to me about The Return is the way it managed to be a living thing built around "ugh move on" for a summer season and then almost as soon as it had finished, it was like a switch had flipped and it was just this vague "thing" rather than a number of weeks of "I can't wait" juxtaposed with "please tell me more move faster". Television used to hypnotize on purpose more than as a side-effect, for once.
kid do you really think there's more to life than that
>3 hours
>amount to dudes a nutter
oh my lad
The Return is more like a collection of related paintings than a show, and each "painting" is something that Lynch wanted to work on but didn't have the time or resources previously. For example, one of the key motifs in The Return is old, decrepit rooms with nondescript machinery. This is obviously a retread of Eraserhead, but unlike Eraserhead, the rooms take more focus than the people. The Return is all about taking the essence of something, or some characters, and condensing it down to an inanimate object, until it's familiar but at the same time barely recognizable.
The only autist or should I say pretentious artcuck here is you for thinking a solid narrative is a non-factor for a good film. I'm sure you also lap Beyond the Black Rainbow up as a 10/10 transcendental state of the art kino cinema flickfilm too.
For what purpose?
Except Beyond The Black Rainbow is lacking in terms of narrative. The Return is not, rather it is lacking in narrative structure. The Return is about dropping the viewer into a world, and letting them have a glimpse of it.
>anime image
>shit taste
Like clockwork
For the purpose of satisfying Lynch's artistic needs and nobody else's
Inland Empire > FWWM > The Return >> Blue Velvet > Lost Highway > Eraserhead > Wild at Heart >> Mulholland Drive
Kinda disappointed no one else has IE anywhere but near last, but not surprised. It and FWWM are 10/10. I'll be interested to see how The Return holds up but I loved it. The next four are all very good and their rankings there are kinda loose, I could see any of them being placed over the other. MD was the only one I wasn't a big fan of. Dune is underrated, very enjoyable, but not entirely a Lynch movie.
>all you base it off of is your feelings
Yes. That's literally what Lynch intends, thats literally what art is for. It in no way excludes it from critique. But that means you also can't say its Lynch jerking off on the screen. That is a retarded, parroted opinion. All those moments served to add to the atmosphere and feel of the film, they acted almost as a collage of short films intended to create little moments of emotions and feeling here and there. If it didn't work for you thats fine, its well within your right to say, hey it just wasn't effective. But no you're insecure and have no understanding of art. You want plot and things to be your way. The other guy was a dick to you, but he's right. I mean, I don't like Antonioni but I don't get all pissed off about his films and anyone that likes them. I simply appreciate what he tried to and recognize that art is inherently divisive. The fact that you use artfag as an insult is just laughably embarrassing.
Funny because said anime surpasses Lynch in his own field.
>DUDE anime is like Western work but better
No it's not. Sit down. Be humble.
Were you trying to disprove your own post? Because you did.
What the fuck are you talking about? A solid narrative can be great. But its not necessary at all. BtBR was a pretty bad movie.
>but why exactly should people spend so much time trying to piece together an intentionally scrambled narrative?
They shouldn't. Some people think its fun. If you don't then don't bother. Obviously the point of his works like that are not to make you sit there and strain your brain until you work everything out. Why tell a story like that? To utilize the medium of cinema to create certain atmospheres, evoke certain feelings through intuition alone. Lynch doesn't fill his films with things that tell you what to feel. The ambiguity there is not pretentious "oh I'm so deep" its to allow room for personal interpretation and allow the film to affect the viewer on a deeper, subconscious, intuitive level. This process is bound to alienate some people and thats fine. Its extremely subjective, no one that actually knows what they're talking about is going to say you're supposed to like it. But you're revealing how idiotic and unable to digest art you are by missing this point entirely and instead just writing it off as pretentious and thinking that anything without narrative purpose is a waste
Right, and that's where he loses me, and it baffles me that people spend so much time trying to make sense of it. Or what's worse, people that convince themselves they are enjoying what they're watching without actually understanding any of it.
>It in no way excludes it from critique.
You say that, but it is in fact impossible to criticize this show because of artfags that eat up literally EVERYTHING Lynch does without even trying to look critically at any of it. Any critique they see they will just disregard and assume the critic didn't "get it". And that's why I call them artfags.
Reverse what you said and apply it to yourself and we've got a more accurate picture here. One of us has watched both, the other blanket terms an entire medium as trash despite the fact that it is just that, a medium, and anything of any level quality can be made of it. I'm not going to be humble around an idiot like that.
all your critique is just BAAAAW ARTFAGS
But you're quite literally not getting it. You are entirely missing the point of the art Lynch is trying to make. What ironic is how pretentious it is of you to assume others are pretending to like something. There's not trickery here. The people that don't allow for any critique are just as dumb as you, don't get me wrong. But there are most definitely countless attempts at both critiquing and praising Lynch's work in depth
Nah. Pretty much any attempt at criticizing his work will be met with how he's just trying to "create a mood" and if it didn't work for you then loltoobad. You can't call it bad though, you can only say it didn't work for you, or my feelings as an artfag will be hurt.
I'm not missing the point, I'm just not digging it.
>I don't like it so it's bad and you have to agree or you're an artfag
great post
Inland Empire > Blue Velvet > FWWM > Eraserhead > Mullholland Drive > Lost Highway > Wild at Heart > Elephant Man > Straight Story
Watched twin peaks and it was shit. Should I bother with his other stuff
No because you didn't enjoy Twin Peaks
Normies hated FWWM you retard
All his other work is basically Twin Peaks but more fucked up and violent, so probably not.
You had me worried, user
Sorry, I'm not about to write an essay on why I think half of Lynch's works are overrated shit on fucking Sup Forums. I just came here to tell my opinion of his works like the OP asked before some artfag called me a "plotpleb" or whatever for disliking his shitty narratives.
>I'm just not digging it
That's not what you said. You said his style includes things that are pointless and pretentious, which the are not at all.
>You can't call it bad though, you can only say it didn't work for you
God you're stupid. Yes that's how criticism works. When it comes to subjective art like that, it's just wrong to say it's bad or good. At least I'm conceding that it's fine to not like it, you are not doing the same for people that do like it, insisting they are pretending or are artfags. Now the discussion can go further than "it worked for me or didn't". If you want to critique him then point out specific things. "He dragged this part out trying to (make things intense, comical, etc.) but instead it (took me out of the film, interrupted the pacing, etc.)" And that will be met with "well for me it didn't do that it did this." That is LITERALLY how art discussion works. What you are doing is not real critique and that's why you're getting shit on. You not only missed the point of Lynch but how art and interpretation and critique all work in general.
Objectively correct post
ok bye