> In the scene we see in Justice League with the bullet shell dropping from the Batmobile is actually pretty significant. From some of the leaks that have come out, we know that Snyder had intended that Batman felt in order to atone for his perceived sin of killing Superman, he needed to sacrifice himself in the fight against Steppenwolf. Batman would have lured away the Parademons and faced his definite death (Diana and the League would have come to save him, though). The shot of the bullet shell hitting the ground is a callback to the shots where his mother was executed protecting Bruce, the person she loved, as well as Superman’s funeral when he died heroically protecting the world he loved from Doomsday. Both scenes featured heroes of Bruce dying, symbolized by bullet casings hitting the ground. Further, it was meant to show Bruce was willing to die for something more than just himself and was truly back to being the hero we know and love, the Batman.
It angers me how badly they butchered Snyder and Terrio's work. I guess they felt like Bruce's death wish wasn't soccer mom-approved.
Thomas Sanders
I saw a screencap yesterday from r/DC_cinematic that this exact post
Kayden Jones
>Looking for serious discussion >calling himself Chad The bait is never been so obvious.
Christian Phillips
>Killing Superman
except he didn't snyderfag1234. It would be complete delusional if Batman really think that.
if he wanted to be redeemed for his mass murdering people, it's another story.
Cameron Sanchez
Batman has never being suicidal.
fuck off snyder
Jose Davis
i was actually thinking about this shot because in BvS everything on screen was shown within enough time to take it in. Aside from the two major flash scenes, mostly everything else is messy and very unlike snyder
Here's the shot of the shell falling during the superman burial sequence; immediately after it hits the ground we hear the voice of the minister "the dead shall live" youtu.be/VhTexu9mTxA?t=4m37s
which of course coincides with the shot of the shell of the bullet that hit Thomas Wayne youtu.be/nU4tBRIt8pQ?t=1m58s
snyders usual pace and timing and rhythm in general don't come through in JL
This is our best hope to show how much WB fucked up firing Snyder and Terrio. They are visionaries in a genre infected with TV-rate hacks.
Angel Walker
Will we ever see his cut, lads?
Cameron Green
make another petition for them to at least release the original pre bvs reaction jl script
Luke Stewart
I think they're doing a special showing in Auschwitz.
Nathaniel Wright
It's funny how much Marvel shills pressured WB to drop Snyder only for not one of them giving a single fuck about JL: Age of Ultron. WB got rused big time and now they lost their key director and writer. Larry Fong and Junkie/Zimmer are also unlikely to return if WB wants to go down this route.
Austin Mitchell
After re-watching Batman v Superman after seeing Justice League, it's incredible how jarring in tone the two movies are now. I really need to see some kind of extended cut that paces out the run-time and maybe replaces a number of the jokes with Snyder's original shots.
Henry Mitchell
I think we just have to realize BvS was the mad luck of WB giving Snyder a blank check to do whatever he wanted. JL was fucked from the day Rotten Tomatoes revealed its score. After that it was a matter of time when Snyder and Terrio would be booted. The critics spoke and they said they prefer light-hearted toy commercials over genre deconstruction and American power structures with influences from Greek tragedy. The vocal minority spake with the tyranny the vocal minority usually has.
Lincoln Gutierrez
Ok, I won't go that far and say BvS is great social commentary, but there was at least some thought behind it, way more than the Marvel movies I've seen so far. Justice League had little glimpses of Snyder's hand, and you could tell there was deeper meaning in a couple places, but ultimately, it just amounts to a mildly enjoyable ride. We seriously need his cut, even if it's just the dialogue scenes, because those don't need VFX work.
Jason Smith
Bruce had a death wish through the entirety of "The Dark Knight Returns." He echoes throughout the story what sort of deaths various circumstances would give him. That's Bruce's redemption in the story - going from looking for a good way to die to finding a good reason to live: legacy.
Jace Sanders
I pray that we do.
Aaron White
Have you read what they did to Cyborg? Snyder had planned a whole character arc for him but 90% of his character was cut by Whedon. It just made the League look underdeveloped. Compare that to the paranoia Batman in BvS expressed and the mysticism Wonder Woman evoked. It really comes across as them not even caring about character but instead all about superpowers.
Owen Perry
Everybody knows that the dice are loaded Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed Everybody knows the war is over Everybody knows the good guys lost Everybody knows the fight was fixed The poor stay poor, the rich get rich That's how it goes Everybody knows
Ayden Anderson
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Aaron Rodriguez
You guys lost. Please fuck off back to reddiit.
Easton Butler
Fuck. I feel so bad for him.
Justin Barnes
If only they had a good story, a decent script and engaging characters around all those visual references.
Levi Harris
>unironically arguing that firing guns is symbolic of being a hero >unironically arguing that firing guns is symbolic of being Batman
David Sanders
I think it's hilarious how much MCUcks whined about DC and when they turn JL into Avengers not a single MCUck gives a shit. Despite years of online shitposting and false flagging.
Jayden Diaz
why? hes not a visionary auteur, hes a yes-man.
Parker Lewis
Suicidal Batman is not for children, Pg-13 worthy
FUCK OFF WITH THAT R RATED SHIT
Hunter Cox
batman being self-destructive is a staple of the character.
Batman being a despondent retard is moronic.
Adrian Sanchez
They're too good for Hollywood and I believe they were shut down by people who didn't want their message to reach its third and final installment.
Their story was calling out the real evils in the world, people who see only in shades of green and worship at the twin altars of power and control. It's not just Jews, it's those so rich that to them such distinctiond are just handy labels to be used to keep the groups they hang them on at each others' throats.
Luke Rivera
negro, anyone who works for WB has zero artistic integrity or vision. They're the worst meddlers in the industry after sony
Its total fantasy to think snyder is some brilliant genius, he's just a studio man.
Jack Gray
>I-it's Marvel's fault Justice League was a piece of shit! Embarrassing
Alexander Myers
>not naming Disney as creativity poison What did the mouseshill mean by this?
Carson Moore
Anyone have all those twitter Disney bots repeating what a dour film BvS is? I loved that. And then Disney smiles at WB and pretends they can be mutual partners lol
Lucas Evans
>pixar basically invents the modern animated movie under disney
whatever you say, son.
Logan Harris
>Disney specializes in making kids movies What else is new? They also turned Marvel and Star Wars to age 5-7 demographic even though both SW and Marvel had darker aspects before Disney raping them.
All that vs taking characters that were universally adored and turning them into unmarketable trash.
Jacob Jenkins
Are you describing TFA and Avengers? I too remember when film icons were turned into quiplords and senile old men from retirement home.
Easton Lewis
No. Even if the footage exists for a complete Snyder cut, it would include tons of unfinished or missing visual effects work, and WB isn't going to pump millions more into a movie that they're probably already losing money on.
Jack Gomez
Idk what you're talking about. Avengers was considered dogshit compared to JLA until the MCU started.
Carson Powell
>comparing two billion+ dollar movies that generated additional billions in merchandising to JL
The DC brand is so utterly dead that WB can't even pay people to see JL.
Anthony King
>muh monies We get it. McDonald's is a worldwide phenomenon that simply can't ever be bruteforced out. Can't wait for the next MCU Happy Meals to take the kiddies to!
Jaxson Lee
Yes, money, as its patently obvious WB wasn't trying to make good movies with their DCEU.
Daniel Perez
So are you excited for the next MCU Happy Meal? Or maybe a Star Wars Cheeseburger with fries? After all, how can anyone doubt the power of consumerism, the final say on quality. Everybody know.
Easton Johnson
>buh-MUHVEL!! EF U DUN LIEK DA DCEU U LUVS DA MAHVEL!!!!
No son. Ones successful trash and the other is just trash. Its possible to understand this if you're not autistic.
Jace Fisher
Are you okay?
Charles Fisher
It's ok I know it's hard to keep an MCU thread alive so you come here instead. It's generally a big challenge talking about Happy Meals in a substantial manner.
Henry Johnson
This movie made me lose all faith in modern blockbusters. I'm never paying to watch another WB movie again I'm not even a big DC fan I just wanted to see how Snyder would try and conclude his trilogy. The level of studio interference here is insane, it makes Rogue One look seamless I'm comparison
Dominic Mitchell
You're now claiming the DCEU is superior because it fucked up so completely in so many different ways that it can be talked about endlessly.
In comparison to movies that simply exist.
Jose Walker
Anyone got a picture of Whedon vs Snyder comparison?
Eli Wilson
>spend 100m on reshoots that completely fucked the film over and left zero time for VFX teams to finish It makes no sense to me. Did they really expect critics would give a fuck? They really should've just kept their pride and stuck with Snyder instead of dropping the ball this hard showing everyone how insecure you are.
Both MoS and BvS were in early teasers advertised as paradigm shifts for the genre. That alone gave those films huge amount of attention, they were something new and bold. But JL has from the start been advertised as Avengers. Of course audiences wouldn't care. They've already seen Avengers. Let Snyder make another BvS-like film that really aims to shake things up. Even if not always successful, those films atleast capture the attention of an audience wanting to see something new. JL really is a Disney film in comparison. From Whedon to levels of executive control to a story that pays no respects to the two earlier films. Even SS, as bad as it was, was atleast bad in an edgy way that made it stand out on its own.
JL is what happens when you listen to corporate warring fanboys who had no intentions of watching your films to begin with.
Tyler Green
so did lex sell the planet for power? he used doomsday to cut his gordian knot of superman, but what exactly does he get out of opening pandoras box?
Connor Moore
I very nearly cried when I saw this. Once I had more time to process it, I legitimately did cry. And prayed for my hero.
In the spirit of actions speaking louder than words, I'm doing what I can to point out what bappened to as many people as I can.
Aiden Jackson
they are pandering to russians now? not chineese? like half of the movie is in russia or ukraine?
Josiah Bennett
I personally think he's still playing both ends against the middle, only now he's looking for a false "redemption" instead of a false sainthood.
He's still looking forward to the day when he saves the world from "Superman."
Daniel Parker
*cackles*
Mason Hall
BvS is the only kino film.
The best blockbuster art house film made since 2001 space odyssey
Xavier Nguyen
>The best blockbuster art house film made since 2001 space odyssey *howls with laughter*
Brandon Kelly
>that final post Damn. Lex is legitimately a good villain. He perfectly captures why Superman must not be seen as a God ever.
Chase Morgan
i really want to know this guy's level of disappointment at watching JL
Isaiah Baker
Utter. The glimpses that remain of what it could have been only make it worse.
Anthony Perez
Friendly DChad observation from the film that keeps on giving:
Lex teases information all the time, sometimes through clever wordplay, sometimes by omitting it from what he's saying. When he's finally face to face with Superman, he omits two things from his speech:
>Jesus, the savior deity >The all-knowing component of the godhead from the Epicurean Dilemma.
One of those is something he covets, the other is something he already has.
Ryder Smith
>"he's all the things that you want in a villain in the sense that when you think you have him figured out he reveals something else about himself" -zack
Jacob Murphy
Too bad the character was written, acted, and directed to be a spastic retard.
Cameron Thompson
Don't project yourself on the character.
Ayden King
>"I suppose there's something liberating in playing a character you know the audience doesn't have to agree with" >"cuz the ceiling for my behavior is pretty limitless, I could be as eccentric, or as scary, I could be anything that I want to be and it still is contextualized in this kind of safe way"- Eisenberg
Jack Lewis
I don't think it's turning out to be as "safe" as he thought it was. I wonder what he has to say on the subject now?
To me, it seems like the decree has come down from "on high" to shut down production on the play the nobility has deemed dangerous.
Justin Lopez
>post count doens't increase
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Gabriel Reed
MOS was shit. BvS was shit. Giving Snyder the 3rd too would not have magically made him a competent film maker
Isaiah Jackson
>how do opinions work
Christian Wright
>i like my shit served in 3 but i'm going to call it an opinion
Kevin Campbell
Marvel Pakis and their obsession with poo.
Sebastian Evans
Let's say you had a chef who cooked you two meals. You liked them, even though everyone else at your table thought they were shit. You want another, and you're promised a third meal by the same chef. During the cooking, another chef comes over, takes over and serves it. This time, everyone else on your table still thinks it's shit, and now you do too for a different reason. Would you feel like you were owed that third meal and be annoyed you didn't get it?
Alexander Hall
sounds like you love eating shit and can't get enough.
Brandon Scott
Good job not addressing the point
Henry Cooper
>MOS was shit. BvS was shit. Thank you for your highly meaningful opinion
Juan Ortiz
You DCucks ain't owed shit but the asswhoopin Marvel gave you.
>Kneel.
Xavier Bailey
I love when the Marvel Pajeet who unironically defends.MCU trash thinks he's the harbinger of taste. Cancerous shitstain.
Parker Howard
>Kneel. Sorry, but I'm not anti-Trump
Jonathan Flores
>muh Disney I sometimes wonder what's worse, if these really are third-world shills or there are people who geniunely care this much about corporate wellbeing. Either alternative depresses me.
Robert Hughes
>doens't Go fuck yourself, fanboy.
Kayden Miller
And you defending cape shit by pointing out other cape stuff is shit is meaningful? It should stand on its own if it does, and guess what, it doesn't
Luke Peterson
At least DC pajeets drown in their own shit
Aiden Jenkins
It's funny how all this shitposting started the moment WB announced their extended universe. Really makes ya think
Nolan Long
You're not alone. What I find interesting is that Luthor's character was egging on antagonism, too. You know, the same guy who was already designing snazzy logos for his team of "heroes?"
Maybe that's why they decided not to make him bald from the start. It would have been a little too on the nose.
Colton Scott
Your mouse overlord wants to see you for inappropriate misconduct, comrade.
Samuel Carter
>calling a movie shit means you're a fanboy of another movie
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Chase Anderson
Well yeah it means that you have different tastes and you like something else.
William Reyes
Everybody knows that the marvelpajeets love eating shit. Disney has been employing shilling studios from 3rd world countries for years now, it's blatant on normalfag websites like Facebook, Twitter but here it's still noticeable, go to the catalog now and see the number of shills on this site.
Gavin Brown
Good taste is The Dark Knight and Batman 1989. Also Wonder woman. SHIT Taste is the rest of the DCEU, Snydercuck
Kayden Morgan
No, it makes you a fanboy regardless of whether you're fully cucked by Disney's bullshit or too lost in escapist power fantasy to recognize an actual depiction of growth, heroism, and redemption.
John Martin
good job having a terrible opinion
did you grow up in a house with asbestos and lead pipes?
Robert Lee
None of which was in BvS or Justice League. Or Suicide Squad.
Wyatt Evans
This is a bad metaphor because I didn't like the first two meals- I thought they were fucking shit.
>okay yeah but what if you liked them
I didn't- they were shit. As a result it's impossible for me to identify with someone who wanted a third meal from the same terrible chef.
Blake Cruz
Oh, my apologies. You might not be a fanboy. Maybe you're just fucking stupid.
Leo Green
>good job having a terrible opinion I think the DC films are awful mate, I was more pointing out that the people who enjoyed the first two kind of have some valid ground to complaining on
Logan Mitchell
>when all your universe has is poopoo jokes so you take out all that anger on BvS
Joshua Hughes
In my metaphor you're obviously one of the others at the table, not the guy who liked the first two meals