Be responsible for the loss of 3 (or 4) federation ships

>be responsible for the loss of 3 (or 4) federation ships
>still captain
>could have been vice admiral
>but fuck that, i want a license to be reckless and lose even more shit for the feds

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Why are you talking about nuTrek? Soybean

What actions, based only on information and resources you would have had in his situation, could you have done to save any of those ships?

It's not that he did anything wrong, persay, it's that in the 5 years since becoming captain, all he does is cost the federation resources. Who can say what another captain would have accomplished in his place?

In comparison, how many ships did Picard lose? As far as I remember, he lost one in Generations... I think? I believe the disc crashed on the planet, if I'm not mistaken, but even in the other movies, he didn't actually lose the ship completely.

And what about old Kirk? How ships did he lose? Someone who is more familiar with TOS would have to chime in.

And then there is Janeway, who miraculously stayed in one piece for the entirety of her series, despite being surrounded by superior enemies and tech.

Black Man only lost the Defiant once, I think?

Riker was commanding Enterprise when the Klingons attacked.

>not that he did anything wrong
Delete this thread.

It's arguable, I suppose. He lost the ship and saved lives in the process, but it's not like there aren't other captains who are capable of saving lives and also not losing their ship. It's a writer problem, for sure, and how every movie has him losing his ship to a superior enemy, but he's not a very good captain tbqh. Janeway managed to survive for years despite being in contact with even more dangerous aliens.

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>Black Man only lost the Defiant once, I think?
Correct, and it was in a large scale attack where the Federation expected to lose ships.

based quote, I'll give you that.

jew

So's Shatner and Nimoy. What your point?

Is the OP Shatner? Don't wait for the translation, answer me now!!!

He does nothing proactive, only reacts when it's already too late and 90% of your crew are fucking dead. Gets blindsided constantly
but doesn't get a clue to maybe up security and recon. Or maybe they just don't know how to do wage a war in their faggoty version of the future

Having Shatner come here and shitpost about nuKirk would be pretty funny... but no, I'm not Shatner.
Yeah, I kind of get the feeling if Kirk was a little more cautious about exploring dangerous places, he would be a little more prepared for whatever eventually happens. In Beyond, he just flies right through the Nebula and gets confronted by Krall's swarm. Instead of immediately pulling back at the sight of a superior force and tech, he engages them in combat and pushes forward.

fleetporn fags always want trek to be about capital ships giving broadsides like Lord Nelson.

>academy student
>made full captain after 1 movie

>Instead of immediately pulling back at the sight of a superior force and tech, he engages them in combat and pushes forward
Congratulations, you just destroyed the Enterprise in an asteroid field nebula, with less chance of the escape pods reaching the planet.

How effective would a mass swarm be in an asteroid field surrounded by a nebula, huh? Your sensors are already fucked, and the Enterprise was one of the only ships capable of navigating the nebula... if not the only one. I would guess he had a much better chance of escaping and surviving in the nebula than without it. It was shown that the swarm required to be connected to the main ship to be effective, and how would being in a nebula help them at all?

Did you type "huh" or are you using a voice to text?

huh?

lmao how many times did he saved the federation? oh yeah fucking several

>It's not that he did anything wrong, persay, it's that in the 5 years since becoming captain, all he does is cost the federation resources.

Earth would literally not exist if Kirk hadn't intervened to save it. That's why Starfleet formally recognizes him as a captain. He saved the Federation's "home planet" along with potentially countless others. And just to be clear, I'm talking about the movie, not the tv show. Maybe things are different in the show, but in the movie, Earth was going to be obliterated and Kirk saved it. He fully deserves to be captain.

>There will be no more JJ / Pine etc Star Treks
They sold off all the props and wardrobe from the 3 movies last week, all gone. Squeezing a tiny bit more profit out of the whole thing, don't blame them.

I know a lot of people here are into it, but Beyond wasn't really that good. Better than Into Khan's Ass, but that movie was bad, so. The first one was the only good one, and even then it succeeded with cheap appeals to emotion and nostalgia.
People give capeshit a hard time, the Star Trek reboots are much more disposable pieces of shit.

Beyond was actually fun but i'm kind glad it flopped because the trailers were shit

the real issue is how desensitized we are to losing ships in the Abrams timeline when the complete destruction of the enterprise should be an earth-shattering event
it's the kind of thing that should happen in 5 years when the studios finally decide the crew is too old to appeal to viewers, not every movie

Janeway did much worse and was promoted to admiral

Cast Prime universe TNG now

>is almost promoted to Admiral 3 years before TOS starts
>loses the Enterprise 22 years before Real Kirk's Enterprise is destroyed

what the fuck was his problem

I wonder how it came to be that they made the sabotage music scene in the third movie. It was incredible to see them piss away their reboot like that. The rest of the movie was terrible of course, but that scene was like a final nail shot into the coffin by a railgun.

I picked up all three nu-Trek movies on Black Friday because they were so cheap and now I actually have to unwrap and watch them

fuckyou

Shatner to the bridge.

>how many ships did Picard lose
His first command, the Stargazer

Pegg selling out made him out of touch, in terms of taste.
I mean, why really think hard about that scene when you could write another three scenes where Scotty is the second most important character in the film from the main crew and gets to hang out with the chick all the time?

>asks Spock why he was making out with his stepsister
>gets choked out for being racist in (CURRENT STARDATE)

Who wouldn't want to hang around Sofia all the time, though? She is a weird hot, and looks a lot better as an alien. Would totally bang.

Geordie

Another problem is that the reboot actors were never bullied hard enough. Black Cube style firms should have been hired to subversively convince them they weren't cut out for the big screen, that they wouldn't be able to find work outside of the trek reboot and their tv show. Instead they were allowed to flounder around in hipster movies that went nowhere, while star trek: std never got to be the TOS reboot it should have been.

Paramount shouldn’t have tried to force Trek into a blockbuster action mold. It just isn’t a property you can turn into that kind of series. The first movie was alright, a decent setup for the new universe, but then ID killed ANY goodwill the series had. Maybe they should have thought twice about giving Star Trek, a series that always relied on strength in storytelling, to a hack director who can’t write a story to save his life.

the definition of white male privilege

Riker lost the Ent-D, Picard wasn't on board

He lost the stargazer but then they found it intact

>TOS reboot

JMS pls go

Who the fuck is that?

Doctor Beverley Crusher
>proper age irl to play character

>be responsible for the loss of 3 (or 4) federation ships
Haven't seen the last few trek movies,is this true?
Think I only saw the first "new" trek movie. It was okay,silly parts aside.

Same guy...and is Sulu(the character) gay?

>kill aliens with music

>Paramount shouldn’t have tried to force Trek into a blockbuster
Agreed,but....so much money. Of course they would/should.
Would you try to make a maybe profitable movie as apposed to a definite massive profitable movie?

Yes, he has lost a ship in every movie, maybe more, but I can't remember that for sure. I was counting the Franklin as #4, but he doesn't straight up destroy it, just wreck it.

And there is a scene in Beyond where Sulu is shown as being gay, meeting up with his "husband" and their "daughter" when they get to Yorktown... why his "family" was even on the station is weird, because it certainly wasn't the home of everyone on board, and they basically imply that they've never been there because "it's the brand new Federation station".

Pretty sure George Takei also said it wasn't necessary to do this, because Hikaru wasn't intended to be gay, they just made him gay because George Takei, the actor that played him, was gay, so it was basically just a shoehorn to appease faggots, which any Trek fan was like "wtf is this shit?", so they failed on that part.

This quote is hysterical, too;
>Pegg also said that Sulu had never been closeted, but that his sexuality had simply never come up, and suggested that Roddenberry would have explored LGBT themes in the original series if he had had the opportunity.

>Pretty sure George Takei also said it wasn't necessary to do this,
Same guy... This is true, Takei was almost angry about this. He is an actor,so why should his most famous role be gay.Kinda takes the acting part away.

>Kelvin Timeline
>A former captain of the Stargazer retires to take over the family vineyard
>[/spoiler]Brent Spiner Data and Guinan show up, demand that Picard return to Starfleet as humanity's existence requires him to take the new flagship on the Farpoint mission
>Strings are pulled and he gets the command of the ship
Now someone else cast Q.

>Now someone else cast Q.

EEEEK!

Still De Lancie as Q although I doubt Q could carry a movie like how Superman movies all avoid mxy.

is a new movie even in production? the last one was so mediocre

Q is a puppet master villain. Do him like the Metron in "Arena" and have him pit the Enterprise against a compelling Cardassain Gul. (Not him.)

A problem I have with the new movies is the rampant aliens of no consequence that are just running around doing random shit to make the Federation look like an all-inclusive refuge. In every previous Star Trek, almost every alien had a species with history that they belonged to, except in this one they are never explained... they are just a bunch of random red shirts with makeup. For example; the alien Syl in Beyond, her species is just "Syl's species"... what the fuck is that?

>Catalog
Did TOS ever feature any non-human crewman other than Spock?

Kirk lost the (heavily battered after fighting Khan) Enterprise during the Search for Spock.

Was the Vengeance the best ship in nustar trek?

...

Picard wiped out half the Federation fleet at Wolf 359.
just saying.

He was a borg, though. Doesn't really count.

t. sisko