These planets are really close together

These planets are really close together

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BRAVO LUCAS

Hollywood doesn't understand how things work.

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Does the Revenge of the Sith music make this scene better?

It's better but the scene is still retarded and unnecessary

>dude what if we had the First Order guy give like a Hitler speech...cause they are like Nazis get it?

But RotS music blows whatever soundtrack they used in 7 out of the water

Fucked up egregious nonsense like that is how you know a movie/show will suck in every other aspect.

Like pic related. The Voyager intro is a cluster-fuck of bad scaling. You can see the reflection of the ship in the rings (sort of hard to see in the pic, but easy to see when it plays). Just one of many awful fuck-ups in that intro.

Morons at the helm.

I mean, weren't they always kind of suppose to be space nazi's though? They didn't have to go all out with the hand gestures and saluting though, that's for sure.

That's because they aren't planets. They are a planet and its moons.

A solar eruption passes in between the ship and the camera in this shot.

Reminder that Tatooine has two suns right beside eachother. This is nothing new with Star Wars.

>4 entire planets full of people get destroyed
>nobody in the Resistance even mentions this or seems to care

Y

Voyager intro is the most kino intro for a long fucking time. Get out.

I liked this movie though, it even starred my waifu.

the lack of a sun would have been enough to destroy all of those planets

There is nothing wrong with this shot.
First of all, they aren't necessarily as close to the other as they appear. One could be further in the background (appearing the same size either due to focal length or the one further back could be bigger in actuality -- appearing the same size from the camera's perspective)
Second, there are many orbits where they could come pretty close. Like fast orbits, or elliptical orbits.

Nobody from the resistance died so who cares.

>Nobody is mad that somehow a beam of energy randomly changed direction and splits into 4 individual beams
Light does not work that way!

Just moving the Starkiller there would have been enough to fuck up those planets' gravity and kill everyone.

>ship flying around planets the size of the Epcot center

That's stretching it considering they are EXACTLY the same size. Pretty big coincidence since we see them exactly like this in more than one shot in different timelines. Even still two suns would render Tatooine inhabitable. Star Wars was never about realism.

the notion of draining an entire sun of all of its energy in the span of a few seconds is even more ridiculous

yes ma nigger

>funnel all of the sun's energy into your Starkiller
>the snow around this device doesn't even melt

Wew

the fact that this fucking thing is introduced and destroyed in the same movie is the real piece of shit here

There is less than 1 parsec between geonosis and tatooine

>That's stretching it considering they are EXACTLY the same size.
Eh, the same is true for our moon and sun
>Pretty big coincidence since we see them exactly like this in more than one shot in different timelines.
indeed

I had to create my own sci fi universe to live in because I both autistic and unsatisfies by the offerings out there

This is one of many egregious examples. I prefer style over realism ironically but not when it's neither stylish nor realistic. Often times sticking to reality is more stylish anyway. It'd be so much more interesting if the planets actually felt massive but they're always small balls in movies/games. Nevermind stars.

Scale is hard to pull off from a computational perspective, I should know as a VR space game developer. Still.

That scene was also bad because it just kinda happens. There was no weight to it despite what a massive event it was.

>find out enemy has weapon that can nuke an entire star system in one shot, but takes a long time to recharge
>decide to fuck it up while it's recharging
Uh... why wouldn't it have been destroyed in one movie?

Don't worry, they have two more movies to bring it back.

you mean like the original deathstar?

It's really weird because it's not even the focus of the movie. It's just a background plot that's literally not even related to any of our main characters really.

Obviously the movie apes off ANH but it's so weird

>A New Hope
>Luke gets dragged into adventure because he gets Death Star plans
>entire adventure culminates with it's destruction and learning about the force and blah blah

>Force Awakens
>Rey gets a map to luke?
>Finn defects from bad guys
>Poe....exists
>Rey and Finn bumble around
>Starkiller eventually blows up

Like what?

would have been more interesting to have it as a persistent threat

ugh

hey look a Disney writer

Yes
They might just be moons.

The thing that got me about this part of the movie was that they gave the impression that the Falcon had travelled to some out of the way backwater planet, yet they could see the destruction of the planet which was at the centre of the government.

Fact: The majority of star systems are Binary and single star systems are relatively minor

They were always more imperial Britain than Nazi's.

It's like they saw a nebula in a picture and thought "let's have the ship fly through that!" (pic related) -- but in reality the nebula would be so massive that if you were to fly toward it, it would get larger and larger and dimmer and dimmer until it was gone and you'd think "where did it go?" and you would have passed right through it.
You wouldn't have cloud features the size of the ship doing fucking swirls and shit.

>would have been more interesting to have it as a persistent threat
Something can destroy multiple worlds instantaneously isn't a persistent threat. You either destroy it promptly or the bad guys win. End of story.

JJ Abrams just doesn't give a fuck

>planet where Kirk gets put on where he can perfectly see the destruction of Vulcan and it takes up like the whole sky

Wasn't the original deathstar introduced in episode 2? :^)

>Even still two suns would render Tatooine inhabitable.
So what exactly is the problem if Tatooine is inhabitable?

>Starkiller Base was a mobile ice planet located in the Unknown Regions that served as a stronghold of the First Order thirty years after the Battle of Endor. Commanded by an unofficial triumvirate of General Armitage Hux, Kylo Ren and Captain Phasma, it was armed with a superweapon capable of destroying entire star systems halfway across the galaxy. The First Order viewed this ability as an evolution of the planet-destroying capabilities of the Galactic Empire's Death Star designs, with the weapon serving as the ultimate culmination of Old Empire research into dark energy translations and hyperspace tunneling.

>The planet was ultimately destroyed by a Resistance attack due to a weak point exploited by pilot Poe Dameron, causing the implosion of the entire planet as the superweapon was firing upon the Resistance base on D'Qar. The stored stellar energy then expanded, causing the planet to turn into a star.

Nobody in the audience cared, and if it weren't for this multi beam bullshit no one would even remember. That's by far the worst part. I mean, how do you fuck up a scene in which billions died?

>JJ Abrams was given both Star Wars and Star Trek

This is honestly a sin, and I truly mean that. Humanity has sinned to allow this

>They might just be moons.

Han saw the beams from his planet with a large distance between them. Was he on one of the moons?

No one said it was light. Beams of light don't destroy planets, they might give the occupants a tan, but they don't destroy planets.

But discussing this seriously in relation to a Star Wars movie is just stupid. Star Wars has laser weapons, even an idiot knows that lasers make useless weapons, they have no mass, again, good for a tan but not much else.

have it disabled in some capacity and then its reactivation can be a plot point in the future movies

>implying they didn't see a cloud of space gas and decided to fuck it up

BEST CAPTAIN

No. But the beams are clearly faster than light. Wouldn't that make them easily visible from another system?

TURN OFF YOUR BRAIN GOY

JJ really doesn't care about such things. See Star Trek and Into Darkness.

>throwing someone off the ship during warp
>lands on """""planet""""" just in view distance of vulcan

movies are made for brainlets

>watch Star Trek into Darkness
>they are trying to stop a Volcano
>use a "Cold Fusion" device to try to do it

I want to die

The materials in a structure of that scale would behave like a liquid. You don't build walls/cliffs a thousand miles tall. They would "flow" down no matter what they were made of.

...

>Rogue One
>smiling

Nope

How does speed affect visibility?

>That's stretching it considering they are EXACTLY the same size.
>Eh, the same is true for our moon and sun

What the actual fuck?

Do you really think George Lucas is that clever? He even called their soldiers stormtroopers.

>no bro we're safe we're at warp, which for the first time ever apparently means you can't get shot at

>the giant ship has... MULTI WARP

>pew pew pew pew

>What the actual fuck?

How do you think eclipses happen

The Moon is almost exactly 1/400th the diameter of the Sun, but is almost exactly 400 times closer

Which when you think about it is one motherfucker of a coincidence

If they are hitting moons around a single planet, from the perspective of a planet in another star system there would be no discernible separation of the beams.

From the perspective of a person standing on a planet in Alpha Centauri, our moon, and all the planets in our solar system, would all be located at a single point in their sky -- not scattered across the sky -- because we're so far away.

I thought you meant on the view field. If they're actually the same side, the whole point is moot to begin with

>they figure out Khan's blood can cure someone from radiation or whatever
>how did they do that?
>well they tested injecting it (human blood) into a Tribble

And all the space ship battles take inspiration from WW2 dogfights.
Doesn't mean the Galactic Empire wasn't based more on Imperial Britain than Nazi Germany.

>BEST CAPTAIN

>Katherine "Let's turn the mind-raping machine back on" Janeway. The fucking madwoman.

>Starkiller Base was a mobile ice planet loc...
The surface had trees and shit. It is at least a warm subterran.

Thats a Type B Coffee nebula. It works with those.

>nobody dies in Star Trek as long as they get a shot of Khan blood

>The Moon is almost exactly 1/400th the diameter of the Sun
Indeed, so are an infinity of other celestial objects
>but is almost exactly 400 times closer
No, the distance isn't static.
>How do you think eclipses happen
Solar eclipses have nothing to do with that imagined relationship because they regularly occur on all planets in our solar systems that have moons, because of intersecting elliptical trajectories, not just on earth.

Your disturbing lack of basic knowledge not withstanding how exactly are they the same size if one has 1/400th of the radius of the other?

I'm not the original guy you're replying to. Their APPARENT size to an observer on Earth is almost exactly the same.

That is correct, but entirely unrelated to the eclipse point that scientifically illiterate person was trying to make.

All this confusion and conflict started by some guy who doesn't realize that objects can *appear* the same size in the sky but vary drastically in *actual* size.
Now I don't know which of you that is, but I have a very particular set of skills, and I will find you once I get my car started.

This. It is absoute heresy. JJ should hang for this.

Typical for Abrams: Every fucking important/planet/location is just around the corner.

>Flying from Qonos towards the Earth? The Enterprise just needs to be at Warp for like a Minute, getting shot out at Warp near the Moon.

>Fucking Deathstar 3.0 nobody of the Republic knew about for 30 years ? Just a deathbeam away from the main planets of the new Republic.

Where did they find the resources to build a planet sized weapon? Why couldn't they have built more Death Stars instead? Can such a large vessel even enter hyperspace?

Episodes 1 and 2 are about the same quality, I don't know why the latter gets so much more shit.

Was this the worst moment in the movie?

You are a retard, empire were always Nazi's you triggered Sup Forumsack, the reason the scene is so bad is the death star 3.0 shit except 10x biggerer

stormtroopers are actually from imperial germany, not nazi germany

there goes that bit of evidence

their helmets are arguably closer to ww1 piths too

No, the ending shot is worse.

Prequels were bad, but TFA was worse.
It boggles my mind that there are people who claim it is better than prequels:
>shittier story (now this is a fucking achievement) filled with more plot holes and convenience than all the previous episodes combined
>absolutely no new designs (copy/pasted starships, deathstar 3, no interesting planets at all etc etc)
>forgettable music, worst of entire saga
>equally bad, unlikable characters as in prequels, with equally bad acting aside from Kylo and maybe Finn
>shits on the previous episodes hard, especially original trilogy, shits on beloved characters
>muh practical effects - has almost as much CGI as the prequels
Face it, it's the shittiest episode. I still don't know why so many retards defend it.

The whole Concept is retarded. I buy somehow that the Empire with its almost limitless ressourcess and vast space was able to build something like the Deathstar(s) in a far away system.

But the First Order is something like former Sovietunion Generals building a superweapon in the equivalent of Lettland with nobody knowing a thing for 30 years.

If they're hit by a lazer, shoudn't they be destroyed right at the moment they see the light?

This scene is a perfect example of how bigger doesn't equal better.

The destruction of Jedha, despite only being a city has much more emotional impact. This is because we actually spent some time in Jedha, learning its history, culture, connecting to the Jedi, and the struggles it has been facing.

What do we know about Hosian System other than its the capital of a New Republic that we know next to nothing about?

I believe there were originally some scenes set on it
JJ abrams probably axed them because they were too boring for his ADHD

its clearly not a laser, like most things called 'laser' in star wars

to be fair space is a bit bigger than earth, even with star wars technology. also the first order i think is actually a sort of recognized political entity

>also the first order i think is actually a sort of recognized political entity

Which in no way is adressed in the movie. Its more like they are the new Rebels which are fighting against the Rebels which are secretly funded by the Republic.
And all that " space " is never been seen in Abrams movies, everything happens just around the neighbourhood of a suburban town.

>he actually wants ANOTHER Death Star movie

no its totally retarded i agree

and JJ abrams hates space, look at any of his scifi films he does whatever he can to end action in space as soon as possible so people can punch each other some more

Overuse of cgi. Also Phantom menace had much better villain.

>hurr durr why isnt Star wars a science lesson?

Kill yourselves. Did you complain about sound in space during the space battles?

>mute mc facethorns
>even a character

That's not the problem.

The problem is the obvious mentality of "bigger is better" in this scene.

>Just turn your brain off bro!

What was Aragorn's tax policy?

You Moron, ist not about science but the consistency of the Universe it takes place and established.

>overuse of cgi
That's hardly a good excuse when the ST used far more than all the films put together.

Simple. Tax cuts for the High Elves.

Walton goggins?

You mean he had a better design? Dooku has more depth. He'd be a decent villain if he was fleshed out.