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Thread for those who've been watching cinema seriously for 5+ years and have advanced past capeshit, mainstream movies and the same old flicks.

Don't be offended, this is not meant to be pretentious, its just some of us have moved past IMDb-core, indie flicks and the latest hyped blockbuster and have more developed tastes. Do not troll or derail the thread with off-topic discussion.

Previous thread: What good films have you been enjoying lately?

I watched The Square today and I must say, I was blown away. A revolutionary work of art and a well-deserved award winner.

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>Elizabeth Moss
drippy droppy dropped

Can someone from ptp upload Sleep Has Her House us ? There have been multiple threads about this and it still hasn't shown up on public trackers.

I've been watching since the 1970s and have around 20k movies under my belt. All it has done is made me bitter. Everything seems more amateurish now. Time is a good filter of course and there was lots of shit I waded through in each decade to find gems. I'm just more harsh towards the shit and social propaganda now. Hollywood needs an enema.

The last film I saw that made me sit up and pay attention was "13 Tzameti" in original language without subtitles. I don't even speak French/Georgian and even without knowing the language I was still on the edge of my seat. It was shot well enough that everything going on could be inferred even without sound.

The only good scene was with Terry Notary, but it ended so weird.
Did they kill him?
Sometimes the movie tries to mock contemporary art but then it dwells into ridiculous territory like that.

The Square had so many ideas. It’s a shame it couldn’t properly articulate any of them.

The Tesla Of Justice scene made me giggle a bit though, as did the pickpocket scene in the beginning.

There’s a good sex scene with her in there.

Todd Solondz will be remembered as one of the great American filmmakers 20 years from now

>you have to watch films for 5 years to move past capeshit\mainstream

What a fucking pleb, end yourself

I can't find it online ;_;

The only movies I enjoyed this year are Good Time and Killing of a Sacred Deer ?
Columbus felt so fucking slow but I'm still curious about it so I'll finish it when I have some time maybe when I'm tired.

What have I missed ?
I stayed away form Wind River because I don't like Hell or High Water at all. Am I 'too fast to judge' brainlet ? Did anyone else dislike HHW and like WR ?

Have you tried karagarga? :^)

The movie doesn’t even obey its internal logic. The museum’s snooty overboss, Elna, played by Swedish musician Marina Schiptjenko, is depicted in one scene as appalled by the “viral” video advertising for The Square exhibition; she’s worried about funding, among other things. In almost the very next scene she sits placidly and appreciatively while some of her benefactors are assaulted in the name of art.

The conceptual-fish-in-a-barrel potshots at contemporary art alternate with an ostensible critique of masculinity and privilege, building to a climax that endorses a compassion that’s mealy-mouthed and insufficient. For all the skill and polish on display, “The Square” is never anything beyond facile and pleased with itself.

It says something unsettling about the times that the Palme d’Or was awarded this year at Cannes to a work so flat-out reactionary.

>movies you cant even find online

not really people fault when they dont watch this shit

Hell Or High Water is amazing. You gotta like Western though, politics, social commentary & economics at the same time to appreciate it.
Movies tha feature Gadsen Flags are rarely bad.

Killing of a Sacred Deer was mediocre as fuck,you are definetly a brainlet

adam driver looks like that?

That's been on my to-watch list for a while now, but I can't find it anywhere yet. Though, I haven't checked this week.

WR was okay, but then it showed a flashback of what happened and that sort of took me out of it. It was obvious what happened before the flashback, but they had to have the flashback simply for the normies. Everything else was fairly good though.

>It says something unsettling about the times that the Palme d’Or was awarded this year at Cannes to a work so flat-out reactionary.

Conservatism is the new counterculture. Marxism films aren't in vogue anymore. Get over it.

I also don't have a kg account. I abandoned all my private tracker shit when what.cd went down in a fit of rage but as far as I remember it wasn't too hard to get into kg. Is it available there ?
Maybe I'll try and rewatch it at a later point in time.
You should definetely read more. Start with the greeks and finish the /lit/ top 100 charts for the last few years.
I'm saying this only because people that don't like that movie don't really read. This is not "I read therefore I'm superior" it's some advice. Imagine watching like 0 movies and starting with Primer or some shit.
But did you like Hell or High Water ?

I hope one day Sup Forums can get rid of wannabe pseudo intellects who fantasizes on capeshit bullshits of last jedi, batman, blade runner remakes and cant fuckin digest the actual good cinema

federico fellini gives a big fuck u to all plebs

>make two good films
>one of the greats

He's good but fuck off

Columbus is slow as fuck but it’s more exposure for Indiana so i’ll take what I can get.

John Cho and Kogonada visited the theater I work at for a Q&A. Really wish I could have been there.

>But did you like Hell or High Water ?

I've never seen it. Seems like it has more action than WR? WR was more of a slow burn and introspective with bursts of action here and there.

But the film is very cultural marxist.
As it juxtapose poor immigrants begging in the streets up against the former royal house paying millions for "a square".

A young immigrant boy killed by the museum director, while they advertise the square with a viral video of a young ethnic swedish girl being blown up.

The chimpanzee performance and its toxic masculinity that leads to the audience killing the performer.

>can't find movie online anywhere
>decides to buy dvd
>it's ripped from a television broadcast coupled with out-of-sync subs and wrong aspect ratio

Why can't all distribution companies be like Criterion?

For those of you you who can't get on private trackers or use rutor or can't buy rare films, give this site a shot, I think they've got some hard to find stuff here.
If you can't find something by its English title, try its original language title or in Spanish.


hawkmenblues.blogspot.ie/

HHW is only slightly more action oriented, with it really ramping up at the end. It’s tense as fuck though.

Coppola made 2 or 3 good movies tops and people hold him on a pedestal

Yeah but he made four classics in the span of 10 years

>family Christmas movie is Lion in Winter
you think kino is your ally

Is this accurate?

it needs to be updated

Who else would you include?

when i saw this it had subtitles, i mean - are you saying it's meant to be watched without them, or you just did that for fun?

A Fistful of Dollars was the only good flim this year

too late buckaroo

I hope you're right Jewish films are completely lacking in empathy Solondz is one of the rare exceptions that makes things that are edgy with meaning.

>watching a film in a language you don't understan without subtitles

unless it's really light on it's dialogues (e.g. Hukkle) you really should use subtitles.

post your film of the year my fellow kino buffs

I like Haneke and PTA

>Hukkle
Have you seen any other films by Pálfi?

thanks bruv

What a masterpiece! I had to put my soy bucket down halfway through because I was so enraptured.

>I watched The Square today and I must say, I was blown away. A revolutionary work of art and a well-deserved award winner.

jesus stop trying so hard.

this movie is basically everybody loves raymond but raymond works in an art gallery. nothing more than a series of loosely written sketches and omg soooo awkward humor hehehh which appeals to those who don't have a real interest in art but still maybe have found themselves in an art gallery thinking "i don't get it??"

if there ever was any criticism to the art world today, it comes from the age-old ignorant debate that revolves around the idea of "anything can be art these days am I right? hehehh". there is one """"""joke"""""" in the movie where one of the cleaning guys accidentally cleans off part of an installation, which is based on several incidents that have happened in recent years. to me it seems that Ruben is a guy who loves to describe himself as someone who just doesn't "get" art and thus can put the least educated and superficial comments about art on film and call it "satire"

hell, some scenes don't even a point, a punchline, let alone a sense of humor. that one scene where elisabeth moss confronts claes bang about sleeping together, the only point of that scene is to have an artwork moving in the background and making a loud noise because "it's art right? heheheh"

and this is considering just the theme of this movie. none of the performances are memorable and the script is a fucking mess.

All-Time High Art Kinos:
1.) Dragonball Z: Dead Zone
2.) GOJIRA
3.) Monster Zero
4.) Dragonball Z: Cooler's Revenge
5.) SHIN GOJIRA

What private trackers have The Square?

it's not up anywhere yet, unless somebody has a private screener

>splice together your b-roll portfolio
>call it a film

So has anyone seen the last jedi yet?
Probably my least favorite flick of the year, but by star wars standards it was pretty ok I guess...
Blade Runner 2049 was, and is my favorite film of the year. 10/10 kino, and it perfectly encapsulates the difference between a flick, a movie, and a film.
Beautifully executed and a true example of mastery within film making.

When are Lady Bird BDs coming out?

i take it you haven't watched it

Hopefully never

February

>I like Haneke
That's Jodorowsky

No one has

I have

Good for you, snowflake

Scott Barley the stupid nigger forgot to leak it on to torrent sites anyone actually uses, I think he was banking on the fact that there'd be that obscure factor that would get his popularity rolling but in the internet age people think if it's not easily accessible it's not worth it and eventually if they ever do see it it probably won't be worth the hype so he's playing a dangerous game trying to maximize the steam of this little film he's made.

stay jel
i'm sure it'll be on public trackers in due time

>Ruben Ostlund’s The Square presents itself as a satire of the age — perhaps the satire of our age since it addresses the incivility that is now inescapable after the 2016 election. Cool indifference is what lies behind the feigned social consciousness and sanctimony of politicians and our empowered media class. Ostlund cleverly sets this problem in the art world where Christian (Claes Bang), fashionable curator for a museum in Stockholm, becomes involved in — what else? — a controversy.

>Christian must deal with issues of politically correct insensitivity that arise from an exhibit called “The Square” — a work designed to compel viewers to examine their empathy and the qualities now put in question by the West’s global immigration crisis. He’s not named Christian for nothing, and that is part of what makes The Square important as well as overly obvious.

>Moral scrutiny based on Judeo-Christian tradition has become virtually nonexistent in most Millennial movies — which are primarily devoted to shrill excitation or nihilism — yet Ostlund’s satirical approach is part of the same problem. His narrative recalls Michael Haneke’s 2005 Caché, a pseudo-suspenseful investigation into France’s lingering racism and remorse about colonizing Algeria. In The Square, Ostlund instead mocks modern Sweden’s open-borders ambivalence. The film’s cool, sleek look simulates the antiseptic environment of an art gallery, which is part of Ostlund’s canny insight into how the ruling class uses art as prophylaxis — to protect itself from being disturbed by its own contradictions, such as Sweden’s fabled neutrality.

>The exhibit itself, a four-sided area of cobblestones surrounded by a band of LED lights, bears an explanatory plaque: “‘The Square’ is a sanctuary of trust and caring. Within its boundaries, we all share equal rights and obligations.” It’s an art stunt, like the movie itself, which traps Christian in his own psychological maze. His exploits occur in a style of disconnected sketches: a business conference, a mugging, retaliation for the mugging, a one-night stand with a female arts journalist (Elisabeth Moss), examples of Sweden’s new swarthy underclass of impertinent beggars. These deliberately evoke the tableaux of Sweden’s black-out sketch master Roy Andersson (Songs from the Second Floor and You, the Living). They also recall Kubrick.

>Ostlund employs long, ostentatious compositions that impose themselves on your concentration by deliberately obscuring information (action or people generally heard off-screen). Kubrick’s chilly imagery and humor were once significant, when he competed with the visions of warmer master filmmakers. Now, Kubrick’s cynical influence dominates directors who are attempting to parse the millennium’s conundrum; cold cynicism is all that’s left. It renders The Square’s very smart satire toothless because an artist’s “teeth” (what pierces the complacency of most middle-brow art) are no longer connected to principled beliefs. The film’s ironic “Ave Maria” score and an early scene where traditional public art is accidentally decapitated (resonant of our current controversies over monuments) partake of a post-Kubrick nihilism — there’s little sincere faith in civilized, responsible humanity. Ostlund’s art has no bite.

>Tall, handsome Bang has some of Gary Cooper’s sheepishness, which offsets his character’s arrogance. Bourgeois yet slightly seedy, like an Antonioni hero, Bang reveals that Christian isn’t all that smart (even when wearing chic red-frame eyeglasses). He likably subverts the image of white society’s ideal — a different effect than what Robert Pattinson created in Good Time, playing a street anthropologist who was as compulsive as a predatory anteater. Bang’s shock during a sex scene with Elisabeth Moss features a classic, paranoid tug-of-war. Moss, unfortunately, has become an emblem of junk art, having appeared in one of the most inept films ever made (Queen of Earth) and some of the most asinine television (Mad Men, The Handmaid’s Tale). Pathetic roles like this arts reporter who is puzzled by familiar art concepts fit too well. Moss always suggests reprimand and guilt (a modern, perverse Giulietta Masina without the charm).

>Despite these characterizations, Ostlund’s cynical humor falls into the art-movie pit of self-congratulation. The centerpiece scene of a Neanderthal performance artist (Terry Notary), threatening well-dressed museum patrons, is patently false. (Hitchcock made the point more disturbingly when mankind’s survivors turned killers in Lifeboat.) Ostlund inadvertently proves that in our worse-than-cynical age you can’t even épater les bourgeois: No one at the screening I attended had the confidence to laugh during the press-conference scene where Christian is bullied by the question “Where is your solidarity with the voiceless and vulnerable?” Christian doesn’t feel the spiritual impulse that Anthony Perkins in the film WUSA, portraying “the voice of Christian witness in a slough despond,” expressed so poetically: “It doesn’t matter what I am. But human life is a gift. The muck of the earth was raised up to consciousness. Blood was made warm.” Ostlund’s hero is, in the end, post-Christian.

>The Square is probably the film of the year — though that’s not necessarily a good thing. The hands-across-our-alienation ending of L’Avventura (1961) was epochal, and the similar ending of The Last Picture Show (1971) confirmed a great new era in American cinema. But The Square is less than those landmarks. Despite winning this year’s Palme d’Or at the Cannes Film Festival, it reduces life to fear and apology. It’s all symptom — no relief and certainly no answer.

Its not /advanced/ but I really liked Shot Caller.

nobody cares

Is this a movie about down syndrome?

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WHAT WAS UP WITH THE MONKEY IN HER APARTMENT

Yes
Plebs love those movies
But not just normal plebs
Pseuds
The most dangerous kind

Why do retards always laud soulless pseud bait? None of the films posted in this thread are even worth watching.

This desu. OP is a fag, as usual.

Don't be a generalist contrarian, it doesn't make you look cool or aloof, especially when you don't mention even a single one by name.

Just watched Get out and it really wasn't all that great. Wasn't very funny and defintiely wasn't scary, dialogue was overt, obvious and unreal and the characters were flat and uninteresting. It was far more well made than i expected from a youtube sketch maker, and bits of it felt interesting but in the end it was all rather bleh.

Also, when the fuck is Nakashimas next film coming out? It's been four years since Kanako

Just watched Get out and meh, it wasn't very meh and definitely wasn't meh, dialogue was meh, meh and meh, and the characters were meh and meh. It was far more meh than I expected from a mweh, and bits of it felt meh, but in the end it was all rather bleh.

Fuck the critics. Most of them are morons. I like watching film commentaries and every time when they ask a critic to make a commentary it's garbage.

film historians > critics

>Nosferatu
>Orlok bites Hutter
>Hutter wakes up, looks at his neck and smiles (two marks are clearly visible)
>retarded critic idiot: he smiles, I interpret it as him realizing he was not corrupted and is still pure
>next fucking scene: Hutter writes a letter to his beloved and mentions "mosquito" marks on his neck
Did they even watch this fucking film before making a commentary? What a joke.

What's your favorite Bresson?

For me? It's Balthazar.

I don't really understand Mother!'s hate

I thought it was a wild ride, the chaos he conveyed is his best work as a director

Aronofsky is a hack

because it was marketed as a straightforward thriller with Jennifer Lawrence

>A young immigrant boy killed by the museum director

I'm pretty sure you missed a scene. Nobody dies in this movie.

>I watched The Square today and I must say, I was blown away. A revolutionary work of art and a well-deserved award winner.
lol, it was shit. So was his previous flick about the Ski Cuck

here you go you pretentious faggts

>watch flick
>it's actually an audiobook

this year was the weakest of the decade by far. I've seen about 5 good films this year. don't even care for Phantom thread so the year is finished for me. good time was the most unexpected.
the square was very good but I still prefer force majeur. interested to see where ostlund will go from here.

The dishonest marketing and heavy-handed metaphors made it an average film imo.

>good sex scene
>her

She's fucking vile I felt sick at many times watching Handmaid's Tale, just use someone like Sarah Gadon for attractive blonde female parts not an ugly dog.

Thoughts on this fucking faggot?

shit

BRAVO

>mfw he gets blown the fuck out with a shotgun in Martyrs

If he just wanted to do a surreal mindfuck movie about domestic terror that would be one thing, it's the blunt Bible metaphors that turn it into a pretentious bore. Whats the point other than "gee if mother earth was a biblical character she sure wouldn't like what god does to her"?

the definition of pretentious

*inhales*

*cries profusely*

I'm sure there are some idiots in this thread that would like this

Oh please, that film has nothing to say about politics or economics beyond shouting about poor farmers and bad banks.

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even /lbg/ shitters spill the chili over you lads

I don't hate it and enjoyed aspects of it, it's just the heavy-handed symbolism that annoyed me.
It's pretty great as an escalating thriller/horror that just gets crazier and crazier.

you've only seen that one
or else you'd say lancelot or four nights of a dreamer

>you'd only say the two of his ~8 films that aren't canonized

Why is there still not a decent rip of the square yet?

Pickpocket