Happy Luke?

Would Star Wars have been better if Luke wasn't a bitter old hermit?

He could still have been a bitter old hermit but they didn't have to make him an asshole.

They should have made him an Ascetic, which is basically what Yoda and to an extent Old Ben were.

The exceptionally wise old master who lives in the middle of nowhere should not be a bitter old man running away from his problems.

I don't even really mind him "trying" to kill Ben, but he should've stopped moping after a few years and got back into the game to try and make up for it.

Yes.
The issue is that it's clear Rian Johnson would rather have just been allowed to start his entire own trilogy with TLJ, rather than have to handle the shit started by JJ Abrams.
The entire Casino Arc points to the story going in some weird, heavy handed side-direction about animal and child abuse and the intergalactic arms trade which wasn't even there in TFA.
They barely talk about Han Solo and Luke is made to be an asshole who forgot his own character arc before the movie even started.
Suddenly its CGI everywhere with a handful of exceptions and the story is far more centered around Rey and Kylo's connection rather than Finn and Rey.

TLJ legitimately reads like it was fanfiction from someone who wasn't on the original writing team as TFA because it basically was.

See, if you're doing a series with some continuity, you need someone with some underlying vision for the whole thing so that everyone knows what direction to go in.

Lucas had a general vision but he didn't really give a fuck about the minute details, but he'd be at least good as some level of editor on scripts and ideas to put into the film. He'd be the first guy to say "Wait, why is Luke being so mean? Why would he try to kill his nephew instead of trying to guide him?"
For all the bullshit of the Prequels and weird decisions, there's still an underlying idea of where you're starting and where you want to go.

JJ had a comparable vision, a little more reverent for the sub-culture Star Wars had built around itself but he still Got It.

TLJ reads like fanfiction because it's all the shit one person liked and cutting out all the stuff they didnt but the issue is that it happened halfway through a trilogy, aka the main grouping of the story.

You don't need to have the whole plot planned out but you need to have some head producer who knows what kinds of themes and character dynamics and relationships you want to focus on.

This too.
Basically, Luke has to do a 180 from his ROTJ self to become TLJ Luke
>Chooses to not intervene in the darkness surrounding Ben by talking to him and bringing him back to the light
>Chooses that the best course of action is to use violence to stop him (the very thing he decided NOT to do with his own father)
>Chooses to go into hiding after the misunderstanding, instead of seeking Kylo out and turning him to the light
>Chooses not to help Leia in the slightest or to try to fix his mistakes

His actions are more akin to someone in their 20s or teens fucking up, not a 30-40 year old guy who's been doing this for a while

i liked that rather than being a Yoda clone Luke actually had his own problems, makes him more real and his own thing really.

I wouldn’t have even minded him attempting to kill Ben, if it had been in a practice spar or something where Ben crossed the line and Luke was forced to retaliate in self-defense. But killing him in his sleep? That’s just lame.

>TLJ legitimately reads like it was fanfiction from someone who wasn't on the original writing team as TFA because it basically was.
this. only difference to actual fanfiction being that it was a lot better than TFA. I agree that they shouldve laid out a full story before making the trilogy though. Even though Johnson is better than J.J. on every level:
thought out trilogy entirely by J.J. > trilogy started by J.J. but then given to someone completely else (and eventually returned to JJ)

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instead of hiding from his nephew and snoke

he would be training to a high level to face them

Rey comes and he tells her no because he has to face this himself..

he is happy because its peaceful in ach-too. Luke helped the space scots with repairs.. save porgs nest from the giant waves... and stuff

Then knights of Ren found Luke and murder the space nuns and the village in the island Luke is. Luke tries to fight the knights of Ren.. too weak gets injured.. Rey comes in and fights, Luke sense so much force in her.. they both fought together.. The whole Knight of Ren decapitated.

Luke realizes Rey's potential and knowing he is too weak and old he agrees to train Rey.

so yes in between rey can still communicate with Kylo same thing bla bla bla

Rey was too hasty to go try save Kylo from the darkside.. Luke disagree and there was a big argument.. Luke tells rey to fuck off if she thinks other wise.. Rey went off Ach-too

Fast Forward to Yoda... Yoda reminds Luke about his mistake when he rushed off Dagobah and its time for Luke to face Kylo Ren

We see Luke lifts up the X-wing from the sea with little effort. Yoda watches and nods.. Luke went off towards Crait.

In Crait Luke will be the Deus Ex Machina and took down the walkers with his Red 5 T-65. Both Falcon and X-wing fly together in sync. (Rey is flying the falcon instead of Chewie) . Luke sense Kylo Ren is here and he has to face him. Rey tells Luke not to.. but commands her to help the resistance escape.

Luke lands infront of the row of walkers and face Kylo Ren.

He buys time for the resistance to run..

We can end of Luke wounded and downed.. Crait can have Binary Sun (this might fit in well with the salt on the planet coz dried up from minerals duh). Luke looked into the Sun before Kylo Ren lift up his saber to finish off his Uncle... He says "im not the last jedi" He looks towards the binary sunset, smiles and disappear before Kylo's Saber struck him.

would have been a better ending.

>Hahaha! Kylo turned to the darkside and killed all my students. Zip-o-dee-doo-da!

Wow, so fucking better.

That happened to yoda and he trained luke, plus he wasnt an asshole like luke was in tlj.

Yes.

But honestly I would settle for Disney's hack writting if they just made Luke actually fucking fight in the dumb fucking movie. At least Snyder understood that if people didn't like his shitty depiction of Superman, he would still do some dope ass fighting. Fuck Disney man.

That happened to Obi-Wan you mean.

Yoda had some children padawan and we know what happened to them.
*Cough* anakin *cough*

>Binary Sun plays one last time for Luke.
Ow oof ouch, that would have hit pretty hard. How is it that a random user on Sup Forums can write movies better than these hacks with six figure salaries?

because disney wants to destroy everything we like,
cant wait to see what is going to happen to the x-men movies.

This is good, I mean it's not like powerful Jedi don't have history of jobbing. Fucking Revan goes from jedi knight to being THE MOST POWERFUL SITH LORD (at that point) to an even more powerful jedi master who then gets shanked by some sith who was arguably far weaker than Malak.

I feel that you didn't really watch any of the prequels because you would know the very basic fact that Anakin was Qui-Gonn's padawan, and then he was Obi-Wans padawan. Never once was he Yoda's padawan. *cough* idiot *cough*

I'd have preferred if they took it even further. Luke should have convinced Rey to destroy the Jedi and the Sith and end the force.

Anakin killed all the kids of the temple.
Let me explain you in easy words. Yoda trained kids.anakin bam bam kids. Kids now dead.
Thanks for acting like a idiot without no reason.

id add in he lands near the hangar.. sees Leia and tell him "bring him back luke, i miss my son.." Luke nods and heads out to face Kylo. That be the last time they both meet as brothers and sister. (Luke and Leia theme starts to play).

Rian doesnt know how to play with emotions of the audience.. that guy is a hack and KK is a feeding all this to him. Fuck KK too.

just by watching how he managed the scene where rey is giving the saber to luke,we can get how bad he is at emotional parts .

I apologize I didn't realize you had ADHD. It was insensitive to call you an idiot. I didn't know you had a condition that made you an idiot. Again apologies. Here I'll explain it in simple terms.

-I pointed out to you, correctly, that Obi-Wan would be a better fit because he, just like Luke, had a padawan. (moron mode: Obi-Wan->Luke, Luke->Kylo)

Still with me?

-Obi-wan had to endure seeing his pupil, Anakin, kill younglings students.

-Luke had to endure seeing his pupil, Kylo (Ben at the time) kill his students.

Hopefully you see how this fits better. Also, bear in mind that you said initially:

>That happened to yoda and he trained luke

This is patently false.

Merry Christmas.

A sad Luke would be vastly better than bitter Luke. A Luke overwhelmed by his failure but still resembling his old self.

Luke was whiney when he was younger. Luke is bitter when he's older. Yeah, totally unlike him.

He didnt trained luke, ha thats funny
Its not like he was in luke's back while giving flips all over the place.

The first post this

>Hahaha! Kylo turned to the darkside and killed all my students. Zip-o-dee-doo-da!

Refering that luke shouldnt be happy.

And i said that yoda trained luke, even when yoda has lost alot of students when anakin killed them. Maybe you are talking about obi wan training luke even when anakin became a sith. And in both situation you and i we're right

You should really had more social interaction than Sup Forums, because you act like an idiot without no reason.

Merry christmas to you.

>Lucas (...)'d be the first guy to say "Wait, why is Luke being so mean? Why would he try to kill his nephew instead of trying to guide him?"

As much retarded decisions the guy has made in the prequels and in ROTJ, I have to agree with this.

except he was probably with Leia when she gave birth because he's a good brother and friend

where can i watch last jedi please help me i worked 24 hours in the last 2 days making shit money im american i beg of you to help me Sup Forums please help make my christmas wish come true

Even Yoda and obi wan made a fucking serial massacre jedi killer、dark fucking lord、help sith lord built a fucking huge clone army, they mostly waiting a new chance, a new hope

Luke instant want to kill his fucking sister and best friend's son because he sensing this fucking kid will become bad? and completely self-exile after something bad?

who I SHOULD FUCK!

Bitter Luke would have been ok if he was relevant to plot.

Wow good thing you said brought yoda into a statement about realism jesus christ.