Worm Web Serial Thread #2

Last thread knocked it out of the park.
With all the hit and miss arcs running around what parts need to be changed, removed, expanded on or condensed during the inevitable revisions?

If you could change on minor thing, what would it be?

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>If you could change on minor thing, what would it be?
I'd make Taylor an open lesbian and remove the forced romance sub-plot she had with Brian

Daily reminder that they kill the big bad by bullying him to death by taunting him with images of his dead wife who died because she was texting while driving

You should have used the OP text from the other thread. Better hope this won't get deleted.

Get out
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Look, I'm not opposed to straight romance nor am I an advocate of gay rights bullshit.
I just think Taylor would have worked better as a lesbian.

Taylor had more chemistry with Lisa, look within yourself, you know it to be true

Khepri releases Taylor due to the valiant efforts of Bonesaw and Panacea (because they fucking owe her). And Taylor is left powerless and a bit impaired, but alive and able to read books.

>> If you could change on minor thing, what would it be?
Newter's name to something that doesn't sound like Neuter

You're right, but I would have rather had her single through the whole thing with hints of her liking women but never really acting on it outside of a one or two time incident.

>Lisa/Tattletale
>the girl who finds sex and romance disgusting

>the girl who finds sex and romance disgusting
The more she dislikes it, the more aroused I become.

Oh, sorry, I thought you were one of those Taylor/Panacea people. Yeah I wouldnt have minded a lisa romance, but its not like the grue romance doesnt make sense. You dont need to vibe perfectly with someone in order to be together. Some of the best relationships are the quiet ones

Lisa took Taylor in as an adopted sister to replace and atone for her dead brother.

People who ship Skittles are weird.

Newter was named becuase he resembles a newt and he has the power to neuter mental faculties.

>Skittles

>You dont need to vibe perfectly with someone in order to be together.

You do if you want lesbians.

Keep Brockton Bay weird.

Who would win?
The strongest cape in the world, who can move at supersonic speeds and is also one of the smartest people in the world.
OR
Some bug girl and some flies

Worm fans will actually argue for the latter winning lmao

It depends.

Is one putting on one hell of a bullying act that would put broadway performers and hollywood actors to shame (production teams, prop designers, and set managers included) while the other is essentially reliving her trigger event while her friends are being "murdered" by a flying brick?

That whole thing was still dumb as fuck,
though. Alexnadria should have been able to avoid any swarm with simple super speed.

Scion dumbed himself down because he wanted to feel emotions when he killed people and blew up England. He's not that smart. Entities aren't creative, that's why they have the cycle. Scion was never the thinker anyway.

>Newter was named because he resembles a newt and he has the power to neuter mental faculties.
Yeah I get that, its just a really stupid name. Even just Newt would have been better.

Her one weakness is that she still needs to breath and she takes zero precautions about that despite having faught and nearly been drown by Leviathan multiple times.
Clearly she's not as smart as she would have us believe.

Thank you user, I agree. I can see this argument getting hashed out every time this thread comes around though.

I'm gonna be the one starting it

I always felt like that was a cop out. Lisa doesn't have any problems hugging people, and heavy petting it just a skip and a hop away from hugging...

incest is "in" right now, just check out the front page of pornhub
plus there's a sistercest character in Worm already anyway, so of course the fans are going to be that sort

She literally has a perfect mind, its her power. Wildbow just wrote himself into a corner.

Uhh I don't think were talking about the same thing dude

>Not making the question Sup Forums related so some sperge doesn't flip his lid just cause
>Not having this in OP title to emphasize that it's capeshit
God Damn it OP. One job! I should've just went ahead and did it like I going to. We'll just have to fix this next time.

>She literally has a perfect mind, its her power.
she literally does not, she's just a quick thinker and learns and remembers things easily
it's not like she's Dragon

Worm exists in a strange limbo where its too Sup Forums for /lit/, but too /lit/ for Sup Forums

Do you think theres a /capes/ board in earth bet?

Taylor is canonically straight, and Lisa is effectively asexual... How does the lesbian romance stuff work? The only way to force it would be to ignore their original personalities and characterization, but at that point it wouldn't be Taylor and Lisa. Just TINO and LINO.

That's PHO

You can be smart and still lack common sense.
Alexnadria thought she was tough enough that she didn't need to take precations.
And she died for that reason. If it wasn't Skitter, it would have been someone else.

Not just easily user. She's literally described as one of the smartest capes multiple time. There's no way she wouldn't have realised Taylor was up to something, swarm offshoring be damned.

Everything past arc 21 is trash anyway

THIS SO HARD.

OP wanted to be a special snowflake and has probably doomed us all. Thanks for breaking it, hero.

PHO is moderated, probs the reddit equivalent. Is there no chan for villains to shitpost in?
Not getting into this again, but the idea of bugs beating someone who can move at mach 20 and has an inviolable body is laughable lol

I don't see "liking men" as integral to either of their characters, though. Maybe if Taylor was attracted to Brian as some kind of fantasy of living a normal life? But even that you could flip around as being in denial given how good Taylor is at lying to herself.

WoG is that Lisa without powers would be straight, by the way.

Lung vs Crawler, with Lung ramped up enough so that crawler cant just instantly kill him
Who wins?

Wildbow said he specifically avoided lesbian sex because he didn't want to pander to sjw

Lisa's biggest problems come at the end of a good fucking senpai. Having an orgasm lowers her mental shields to the point she becomes overwhelmed and can't function for days afterwards.

The thing that always bothered me is the fact that capes like Regent, whose powers are useless in an Endbringer fight, still get called halfway across the world to be thrown into the meat grinder.
I think I'd have killed him off in one of the gang wars instead, maybe by Butcher. That'd help to emphasize the lethality of supervillainy, further pushing Taylor to give it up.

Reminder that Dragon shitposts on PHO as part of her job to trawl the internet and spy on the squishies.

Villain networks would be on the deepweb if Bet has it. Only casuals like Uber and Leet use mainstream internet.

BUT user, NEWTS ARE CUEWTS

I hope to fuck we live long enough to have a comfy thread & come back for three. No one make another one while this one is playing out. I implore you not too because then some sperge can find a dumb reason to get pissed instead of hiding the god damn thread. Let's hope he come back for three & make it comfy. & don't mess it up...fuck it if you do.

so after she masturbates she gets that "why the fuck am I like this" feeling except 100x worse

If Lung is ramped enough to where Crawler can't instagib him, Lung will eventually ramp to the point where he'll burn Crawler away.

>Regent, whose powers are useless in an Endbringer fight, still get called halfway across the world to be thrown into the meat grinder.
They volunteered though. For team unity I guess.

Neither can secure the kill on the other, but Lung will eventually get bored so he's fucked.

She did realise that Taylor was up to something but Taylor can bleed off her emotion into her swarm.
It's why Armsmaster's tinker tech Lie Detector didn't work on Taylor very well.
Alexandria knew Taylor was up to something but she misjudged Taylors reactions.

Alexandria's death is the Wormverse equalvalant of someone slipping on a banana peel and dieing as a result. You can be as strong as you ant to be but if your going to act like retard with that power then someone will kill you. It was as simple as that.

Just remember that Alexandria also thought she could take a punch from the Siberian.

But Crawler is already fireproof. One of the first things he did when he got his power was sit inside a furnace for a week.

Definetly. I also think it should have been grue who dies. It would have been more dignified than how Wildbow handled his character in canon

that's because if they don't do that then society will start thinking parahumans aren't worth the potential threat to civilians and will start pressuring the government to put more restrictions on them

basically parahumans get to play "cops and robbers" only because they all participate when an endbringer comes to town

Sexualities do not define a person. Taylor could have been written as gay and it wouldn't have changed anything except whom she would have had a doomed crush on.
And I said that Taylor should have been gay, not Lisa. You can make one character gay without making them all gay.

No one knew what the Siberian was, though. Just another psycho killer the big guns were called in to deal with.
It wasn't until Doctor Mother explained it was Manton gone rogue did Alexandria find out it was one of their vials.

>It's why Armsmaster's tinker tech Lie Detector didn't work on Taylor very well.
When was this?

Don't Lung's fires get hotter and hotter as he ramps? Eventually he'd be shitting out plasma wouldn't he?

>Mach 20
>Super strength, as in, if I close my mouth, no bugs are getting in
>Mach 20
>Superfast thinking, allowing for instant action
>Mach 20

Nope, Alexandria's death is just bad writing.

>Sexualities do not define a person

Yep, he shat plasma against Scion

You don't need super quick reactions to fly really fast over a vast and empty expanse of ocean. It's not like airplane pilots are dodging seagulls.

I wonder how many seagulls Alexandria has collided with over the years.

^^This. Its stupid, but so are a lot of IRL traditions. Not showing up to endbringer fights is a big nono.

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>wants to make a straight character gay
>accuses others of being tumblr
What did he mean by this?

Okay... but even if that was true, the moment she spotted the bugs (and I don't care what Wildbow says, bugs are insanely obvious and easy to spot in those numbers) she: Flies to the edge of town to avoid them, flies back in, tears off skitters head, all in under a second

> If you could change on minor thing, what would it be?
Taylor's final codename is Worm instead of Khepri

I think animation is the only way to really go

It would probably have to be netflix or someone like that willing to take a risk on something weird

I mean can you see the endbringer battles, the crazy bullshit that happens in the slaughter house 9 fights, or the whole Scion clusterfuck to work with live action TV levels of CGI?

Even psuedo-anime style would be better than live action, assuming its a TV series and not a movie, and I dont see this being a movie, too much to cover, too much stuff that suits would want to tone down.

Comics would be a good second best possibility, but im sure there are ways you could fuck that up, such as the parts near the end where they're jumping from universe to universe to try to avoid continent smashing lasers, how do you get that into panels without losing the sense of momentum and split second escapes?

no no you've got the wrong idea
this is making girls kiss for our amusement, it's patriarchal oppression via the male gaze

Only tumblr thinks that a characters sexuality defines their charcter.

You can make a character gay without that aspect being the central focus. Just look at Legend.

But the point was that Alexandria thought she could. No precaution that maybe this villain was the bigger Brute.
Same with Skitter, I mean they're just bugs. Alexandria thought that they couldn't hurt her.

Alexandria has a bad, bad, habit of thinking she's the biggest stick in the yard. It's made her sloppy and liable to underestimate others. But hey, at least we got Pretender Alexandria out of that.

No, Alexandria is just arrogant. Anyone can be killed if they let themselves get killed.
Who said Alxandria tried to close her mouth?
Who said Alexandria even considered /bugs/ to be worth reacting to?

making Legend not-gay removes a vital element of the setting though
some other high-profile parahuman character would have to move in to take his place

>Mach 20
She wasn't moving at Mach 20. IIRC she was hamming it up, making Taylor sweat over her destruction of the Undersiders.
>Super strength, as in, if I close my mouth, no bugs are getting in
The normal reaction to getting your nose suddenly plugged up is to use your mouth to take a deep breath in. Unfortunately for Alexandria, there was a swarm of bugs waiting for her to do just that.
>Superfast thinking, allowing for instant action
This is what ultimately killed her. Asphyxiation cause her to panic and try to Mach 20 herself away from the source of her problem (Taylor) unfortunately, the way Taylor's shard works makes it so that if she's not giving instructions, her bugs follow the last set of instructions. In this case, move further into Alexandria's lungs while spiders spin silk to make sure there's no backtracking allowed.

Honestly, she was nearly invulnerable (barring wonky dimensional effects like Siberain/Sting) her only weakness being her need to breath. She should've been wearing a closed helmet like pic related. Overconfidence is what killed her in the end.

>>making Legend not-gay removes a vital element of the setting though
What? That gays are more accepted? That's hardly a big issue in the setting and wouldn't have done a thing to change anything about the other gay characters.

Okay.. except she knew she could be drowned, and would catch on pretty fucking quick as to what Skitter was trying to do... Unless skitter was able to kill her instantly, Alexandria could not lose

If you're telling me alexandria kept her mouth and allowed the bugs to pour in, then I dont know what to tell you.

Info about Worm adaptations:


Wildbow wrote about the status of Worm in his news post here: reddit.com/r/Parahumans/comments/454gb3/worm_news_editor_applications/
>To clarify, there's a 1 in 30 chance that the story actually gets optioned, which is where I'm agreeing to not give someone else the rights to make a movie/tv show for the duration of the option (and getting a little pocket money for that). After that there's a 1 in 100 chance it gets greenlit and actually becomes a show. Haven't even crossed the 1 in 30 point yet, but the fact that there's interest is pretty cool and I thought it was worth sharing.

Here's a comment Wildbow made about producers making suggestions about his work: reddit.com/r/movies/comments/4zzeq0/studio_notes_to_spielberg_over_back_to_the_future/d70c65q/
>This is not a joke. And it's horrifying when you talk to someone about something you've put years of your life into and you realize they're dead serious about this shit.

> 3 different groups have approached me (two have been involved in international motion pictures), and sounded keen, but I've been informed that it's very common for the TV side of things to be very 'hype hype hype hype!' and then just stop dead in its tracks.


Here is his breakdown for a Worm TV show episode structure: reddit.com/r/Parahumans/comments/2auz3r/if_you_made_a_tv_show_out_of_worm_how_would_you/ciza5xg/

Do not number these. This is not a general. This will not be a constant thing.

Alexandria was putting on a show, she was 100% aware that Skitter was tracking her movements with bugs and was probably letting her do it on purpose. That's why she didn't think anything of more bugs coming at her.

It would probably work better as either an comic with a lot of text or a well made cartoon with lots of dialogue and exposition.

Also as a general question. Did anyone else root more for the wards and protectorate over the Undersiders at times? In a world like Worm with all the terrible shit happening, I find it much easier to root for the actual heroes who are trying to make shit better.

Except that shes so fast and strong, she could easily cough the bugs out. If her lungs werent strong enough to do that, then theres no way theyd survive within her body.
Any normal human being with functioning senses is going to notice a swarm approaching, even if it was a "super stealthy skitter swarm" the author is so fond of. The moment those bugs started going towards her face, she would have realized what taylor was upto.

No my friend, from experience arguing with dumblrites I can tell you that they think being LGBT defines someone's character. Changing a straight character into a raging faggot is fine all day long. Changing a LGBT character into a straight person is nigh on blasphemy.

>making Legend not-gay removes a vital element of the setting though
But...why? He being gay doesn't add or take anything important about his character, dude.

>She should've been wearing a closed helme
This! Fucking this, if she's so fucking """"smart"""" why does she fly around with her one weakness exposed?

Furthermore, didn't Kid Win have anti insect drones set up? But the author drops that when it becomes inconvienent for him...

yes, which is why I said "setting" and not "character"
Legend was a high-ranking gay superhero, which is why it was important (to the setting) that he was gay

it's different from Taylor being straight because it actually tells you something about how society views parahumans

>why does she fly around with her one weakness exposed?
PR
all impractical costume designs are the result of PR

God damn it, I'm having Iceman flashbacks.

My guess would be that despite her colossal strength and invoidable body she had the same reaction that any normal person would have when swarmed with bugs crawling up her nose, and that would be to open her mouth to continue breathing, gasp in surprise, scream or gag from disgust.

Asking a person to stay clear headed with bugs crawling up their nose is a tall order even for the smartest person in the room.

How does a closed helmet make a difference? She still needs to breathe, so the helmet has to have at least some ventilation, so we're back to square one.

>They gave Vista a boobplate presumably to make her seem older so people would be less uncomfortable about her being on patrol

>They gave aegis rust red armor because that hides blood better

Why does Armsmaster wear a tech suit but cover his face with a visor that leaves his lower face and beard exposed? It leaves him stung by hornets after the charity fundraiser. Because PR means smiling and looking good for the audience. Once he joins the Dragons Teeth, he doesn't have to deal with that shit anymore.
Most heroes are jobbing or nerfing themselves so they don't look scary. Miss militia never uses nukes until the end. Crucible uses his forcefield only. Weaver was told to stick with butterflies.

>This will not be a constant thing
If we get an animated show, we'll have more threads whether haters want them or not.
But, yeah, no generals. That shit is cancer and this fandom is concerous enough without that being added on.

Because what are the odds someone makes a lot of tiny things fly into her mouth and nose when she can't do anything about it? Very low.

In the echidna arc, Alexandria is within sundancers fireball for minutes, suggesting she can survive for a bit without oxygen (Not just holding your breath, without oxygen, because any air in her lungs would have burnt up. So even if her insides were full of lungs, she could last long for someone of her speed to travel across the country and find a cape who could help her (This would only take her a couple of seconds actually

She was panicking. Can't do anything when you panic.

Ok, how was his being gay important to the setiing?
Cuz I'm not seeing anything.

OKay... But Alexandria has surely fought "gross" capes before in her 20 year career. Are you telling me the woman who can remain calm whilst leviathan was trying to drown her is gonna freak out and panic when bug girl does it?
And even if she panics, she can panic for a while, and then spring into action. Her super speed means she has as much fucking time as she needs to do anything, because any action to remove the bugs is only gonna take maybe 2 or 3 seconds tops

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Was public knowledge that he was gay?, i honestly can't remember.

If it was, then yes it adds to the setting.

Like I just said, the woman dealt with leviathan, the super strong, super fast hydrokinetic (Water drowns better than bugs) trying this shit. Do you really think bug girl is going to scare her?

If Worm is too complex/expensive to adapt for screen, I'd be happy with a Protectorate Pals web short series.

because it means society doesn't give or shit or if they did, they didn't give enough of a shit to keep him from being the third most popular parahuman in the world

it's a necessary counterpoint to all of the racially charged gang wars we see in brockton bay

yeah, it was public knowledge

hammers in early on in a conversation he has with Piggot how powers can be passed down.

The only way Alexandrias death makes sense is suicide. Anything else is just completely implausible

Breh, one of the 7 deadly plagues is a swarm of locusts. Bugs hit one of humanities most primal fears. Intelligent swarm of insects trying to crawl up your nose/in your mouth/ears is going to hit at a different level than Guano Boy throwing feces at you, or Gregor the Snail launching slime at you.