SO YOU'RE SAYING WE WUZ LOBSTERS N SHIET INNIT BRUV?

SO YOU'RE SAYING WE WUZ LOBSTERS N SHIET INNIT BRUV?

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nooo that is not wot im sayin abooot

Not a big Peterson guy but that shit was brutal. I guess that's what happens when you go up against someone who fights people for a living.

>Have started to think JP is a hack with weasely debate technique
>He still looks like Socrates beside a normal "public intellectual"
The state of discourse

How do you think her husband felt watching his wife get absolutely SORTED by JP on live national television?

SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU HATE ALL WOMEN?

SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU THINK WOMEN ARE DUMB?

SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU THINK WE SHOULD KILL ALL WOMEN?

SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU THINK WE SHOULD GAS THE TRANNIES?

ROOM = CLEANED

There is probably so much soy in his veins that he can't do anything other than petty his wife over the lost battle. Next time sweetie. You will take down patriarchy!

Context?

Do you guys think you could physically beat up JP? I'm definitely a bigger guy than him (4u) but he has an insanely nice jawline, which makes me suspect he has secret testo-strength reserves. Plus he's like 60, he probably fought in Korea or Nam, I'm always wary of fighting older dudes b/c they sometimes have skillsets to fuck you up

There were quite a few points that saw him squirming

The hierarchy thing as rules of chess game, wtf ridick, they spent too much time on gender pay gap, who cares

Haha what a story jordan

Channel 4 is so cancerous, it's almost unbelievable.

That is the problem of the left, they used to be as hardened as Peterson when they first started out because they weren't in power and and had to fight tooth and nail for their ideas to be accepted, now they are the ruling power they are complacent, lazy, medicore and can't even stick to their own logic and producing bastards of their own ideology see modern Identity Politics compared to Stalins writings, it is why the left won't last the 21st century.

>it is why the left won't last the 21st century
More like thanks to the left, we won't last the 21st century.

I'd hatefuck her desu

You know she just segued into that because she wanted him to look stupid

I don't like the recent trend of identity politics being classed as 'leftist' I am left and I think its mostly stupid semantics and way too in the forefront when inequality and oppression are more important issues

"left"
this

what the fuck are you on about

THOT=SORTED

>mostly stupid semantics
I don't think you know what this word means. There aren't even any semantic games the SJWs are playing. It's pretty simple. Group "on top" - i.e. straight white males - are perpetrators and all the other groups you can come up with are victims.

> inequality and oppression are more important issues
They ARE talking about inequality and oppression. You're too stupid to contend with. I'm an economic leftist and I denounce you.

I bet the anarachists and nihilists felt the same way when you gutted their ideologies and wore their dead corpses. Accept your fate.

his "squirming" was coming up with ways to explain his ideas without being jumped as a misogynist.

What the fruity fuckloops is this tread about?

Your brain on leftism

>when inequality and oppression are more important issues

Inequality and oppression of what

Give me an answer that isn't identity groups. It's hard to find a leftist who only cares about poor people. Intersectionalism is a dominant ideology on the left.

youtube.com/watch?v=aMcjxSThD54

I was meaning the all the genders they were talking about, and that question she raised in the debate 'don't they have right to not be offended?' I don't think they do

20 people own as much wealth as half of all americans.

I mean oppressive organisations, structures, whatever, actually what Jordon seems to think is set in stone and perhaps is fond of, don't know much about him.

youtube.com/watch?v=aMcjxSThD54

lobster starts at 26mins

>>He still looks like Socrates beside a normal "public intellectual"

That's what's so funny about it.

Peterson isn't all that special, but he looks like a god compared to all the other public intellectuals. Such is the state of our thinking class.

>actually what Jordon seems to think is set in stone and perhaps is fond of, don't know much about him.

You're right. You don't. And the fact that you're so eager to believe he's a mustache twirler makes me quickly suspect you're fucked in the head.

Some anglo bitch made a fool of herself by failing to debate some clown conartist altright is jerking off to.

This interview was like that scene in Warrior where tom hardy fucking polaxes that cunt in like 2 seconds

The word "semantic" means relating to meaning. Unfortunately feminism as an ideology fosters people literally too stupid to even be capable of actual semantic argument, which is why none of it took place during the interview. The only thing related to semantics these people are capable of infinite concept creep. We're literally at a point in public discourse now where mild - and factual - disagreement can be considered violence and there's no real pushback to this position.

And they didn't get there by way of argument. They got there by moaning. Literally.

Here's at least a partial solution. Bump the estate tax to 99.9999% and cap the maximum possible inheritance at $1 million. You'll eradicate two-to-three generations of undeserved billionaires with one piece of legislation. Punchline? You get to tell the rich fucks to teach their kids to pull themselves up by the bootstraps.

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He did say hierarchy was the rules of the chess game in our make up, which even if were true, doesn't mean humanity's always going to fall in line or has to.

How can someone so stupid have a job that doesn't involve cleaning up after people?

>structures

you keep using that word, i do not think it means what you think it means.

You don't have to be autistic about everything here, take a look at all the dumb shit said in this thread, she was blown out etc. People say 'its semantics' as an expression, which isn't the exact dictionary definition, something you'd know if you went outside.

and then they and allllllll their money....move out of your country.

He didn't get to develop it in the one minute he was given for it before yet another abandonment of the topic without an argument, but the core idea is that hierarchies of competence are inevitable given our wiring. There's no falling in line, it's the opposite. The best of humanity is about bettering oneself and reaping the rewards.

Oh yeah please piss off the richest people in the world, they have no power and can't do a thing about it.

Don't use words you don't understand, cretin. Nobody says "it's semantics" when there are no semantics going on unless they're retarded.

After a few public hangings they'll be glad they get to keep it while they're alive.

It's not the left I'm ultimately worried about in the long run. It's the more aggressive cultures they let in.

A military is more powerful than a few papers, a few numbers on a screen, and a yacht, m8.

What did they mean by this?

>it's semantics
Yes they do dum dum

Gave me a chuckle.

Yes, morons do, I already made a line around you.

>BUH BUH BUH WHY DON'T COMPANIES BECOME MORE FEMININE

No one is stopping you from doing this

>REEEEEEE NOOOO EVERYONE HAS TO DO IT

Why are women so retarded bros like honestly how has humanity survived so long

So glad this dumb twat is already a meme

yes because that all worked out so well the last, what are up to now 10? 15 times now?

>He did say hierarchy was the rules of the chess game in our make up, which even if were true, doesn't mean humanity's always going to fall in line or has to.

What does accepting predisposition or even the inevitability of hierarchy suggest fondness of or immutability of oppression?

You just can't have had a conversation in real life in ten years I understand, you'd have to be glued to your computer to have never heard that expression, its pity I feel for you, there's a world out their champ go get em, be like jordan

Pay attention to how things work. That paper money and numbers on a screen gives them the ability to manipulate public opinion and politicians. Which then lends them alter what the military is aimed at.

Look at the amount of hate Russia gets, Chinese government is far worse but the Chinese are big business so the rich cozy up to them.

You can act out your retardations further or you can just look up what the word means before you act like a doofus the next time.

...Except I'm not really advocating for communism in any way shape or form? What I'm promoting is the ultimate form of meritocracy.

Its hard to say with that guy, I've only just seen that debate of him.

Women aren't retarded, Channel 4 just trains their "interviewers" to argue in disingenuous ways to get reactions and for the interviewees to give frustrated retorts that are more often than not ill-phrased. If the interviewer was a dude it'd go basically the same way.

Watch any "interview" from Channel 4 and you'll see commonalities in their debate structure.

I'm well aware of how they work, my issue here is that SJWs (i.e. the part of the left ranting about oppression, which I share practically nothing in terms of ideology), who have made tremendous gains over an extremely short period of time, have done nothing actually productive. The least they could do is fight for some economic or social policies that were more interesting than mere power grabs.

This was the strangest part of the "interview"

How are you going to change companies so that assertiveness is no longer fruitful. You would have to change people, because they are the ones persuaded by assertiveness. The interviewer sounded like she needed science fiction instead of policy.

That's interesting, but didn't really fit the context. He's a dark dude

I watched the interview yesterday, but from what I remember it's basically a retort to two basic ideas:
-That humans are a tabula rasa for ideology;
-and that capitalism is a source of this inequality;
both of which are completely dismantled by this lobster example. Some form of hierarchical structure and the strive for success (i.e. fitness in evolutionary concepts) are the building blocks of LIFE, they're not magically only applicant to humans in the 21st century.

>"Companies should hire women with regard to filling quotas rather than their competence at any job."
>"Why?"
>"Because fuck you, that's why"

How do they treat interviewees that are aligned with their political spectrum though?

I think it's more than irritating their guest for entertainment. They want to stall and misrepresent information so the guest can't persuade the audience. Notice how much time Peterson spends dismantling strawmen instead of continuing to explain his points. You can't talk about the merits if your ideas while defending your morality at the same time.

fuckin kek

>She hopelessly browsed through her cards, realizing she is way over her head , locked in a room with an intellectual gorilla. Resorting to cheap tricks, trying to comply with the furious dyke producer's command in her earpiece to "GET HIM!! AAAAAAAH!!", desperately gasping for sound bites. But his words kept ringing in the back of her head, like a stubborn pop tune: "Woman don't want a weak man".
>She always knew her husband was a sorry excuse for a male, but Dr. Peterson's words forced her to look in the mirror and see herself for what she really is. To understand that her inability to keep a real man around led her to settle for a sniveling worm. The sudden realization of her self deceiving hit her consciousness like a speeding train. All she really want is a real man to tell her to CLEAN HER ROOM

They aren't as non-stop ferocious with the questioning, and try to be more polite and less "I'm right and I know it" in their tone. That said they're still dicks looking to get reactions out of people at any opportunity, including times when it really makes no sense to ask those questions.

youtu.be/ALBwaO-rAsE?t=237

>Korea or Nam
He's canadian, you fucking burgermutt

so is her career over now?

>Some form of hierarchical structure and the strive for success (i.e. fitness in evolutionary concepts) are the building blocks of LIFE, they're not magically only applicant to humans in the 21st century.

lmao do you even watch animal planet

Every species on earth exercises a socialist utopia where all members are equal with perfect cooperation and wealth distribution. There's a raccoon's socialist republic in my back yard. Their merry songs of the people's labor and national pride make me cry every time.

meant for

Doubt she'll lose her job but she definitely won't be taken seriously ever again.

Most of them Jews

>GET HIM!! AAAAAAAH!!

Easily, but it was much more fun to destroy him on twitter in front of all of his followers and have him publicly concede to me when I was suspended after being reported by his host of sycophants for accomplishing such a feat.

completely dismantled, don't think so

this
its so easy to destroy his constant strawmanning and lying
he just want patreon money from nazis

We should ask himi if he killed any gooks.

>But his words kept ringing in the back of her head, like a stubborn pop tune: "Woman don't want a weak man".

>All she really wanted was a real man to tell her to CLEAN HER ROOM

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>It's wrong when the alt lite use patreon but not us

Really tickles the brain cells