Grey Jedi. Good or bad idea?

Grey Jedi. Good or bad idea?

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>Grey jedi have a code
Well, there goes that sliver or something interesting.

edgy tip m'lightsaber

>radical centrists

>grey code

Gay af

The Dark side is heroin. Only idiots think 'Oh, I will just use a little. I can control it.'

Grey jedi might seem like the dumbest thing in Star Wars, but they only exist because Lucas turned the jedi into a neutered, emotionless eunuchs in the prequels, purely because of his nasty divorce.
That said, fuck the grey jedi.

based radical centrist jedi

I haven't watched any soy wars movie, but the sith code sounds really cool.

Hell no if they have that terrible ass creed aesthetic

>Sith emblem being an Imperial crest knockoff
I hope that never makes it into canon tbqh

pic related

this

>grey Jedi is assassin’s creed
Whoever made this pic is an edgy teen

>the empire knocked off the Sith Crest

I would be a Grey Jedi because I'm attracted to little girls. I hate it because it sounds edgy.

>People hate Kyle Katarn now

Fuck. Off.

>The grey code
More like the gay code

>loved star wars
>never played that shitty game
>realize i literally missed nothing

Shadows of the Empire was better, tbqh

Dash Rendar is a cooler Han Solo that's for sure. He's as cool as Kyle though.

The term "grey Jedi" is fucking retarded. I prefer "Bendu" or literally anything else.

However I think it's a good idea for the ST. I hope Episode 9 ends with Kylo and Rey finding balance and starting a Bendu order

>i larp a relationship with Rey before a go to sleep

There is no Gray, faggot. The Dark side is seductive and you can't just do it a little. Luke literally realized that when he was about to kill his dad. It's the same in real life; the seductive thing you're weak to; you can't just do a little.

>Just, like, do whatever? I guess

What a compelling philosophy

No way that leads to you become a pirate warlord.

>grey jedi

This is why luke died as virgin too

The force in its natural state is balanced. The dark side is imbalance. You can't be a little imbalanced on purpose and preach some shit about true balance.

The true answer is that Star Wars lore is retarded.

Star Wars really is for children, isn't it?

>we want to disregard the old expanded universe
>start using old EU ideas

Unironically my religion.

>The dark side is imbalance

Wrong, sir, wrong

The Force is the embodiment of life, the process of living

The Jedi ideal represents an absence of life and living, they don't feel, they don't procreate, they're machine-like

The Sith ideal represents too much life, too much passion, too much vibrancy, which manifests as evil because ultimately human desires taken to extremes will always manifest as evil acts

The Force in balance either has equivalent numbers of Jedi and Sith or no Jedi or Sith whatsoever, the presence of either is imbalance.

No it is not. It is for manchildren who have never grown up.

>is retarded
>"It's not me who's retarded, it's Star Wars lore, guys!"

"Grey Jedi" are just a narcissism meme.

There is an in-between faction, and it only works because there is foundation in a higher cause- that of the state.

>posting a character who literally fell to the Dark Side and was killed by his daughter who decided she was a real Jedi

Grey Jedi existing as a separate faction of some kind really is stupid. I kind of understand it as more-or-less Jedi who hold personally conflicting views with Jedi dogma, so just Jedi Protestants, but really there should be Jedi, Sith and decentralized, non-conformist enclaves of exceptionally wilful Force users who train to temper their emotions, allowing themselves access to 'darker' powers at certain times. Don't even call them Jedi anything, they're their own thing.

Someone on this board once gave a really good metaphor of the Force I loved - the Force is an ocean, some people flounder in the shallows all their lives, some people strike out into the wide open blue: these are Jedi. But some people dive too deep and get lost in the cold and dark: these are Sith. 'Grey Jedi' would be divers, who dwell in the blue, but can dive momentarily into the deep dark, but only for a moment, and it's only through rigorous training can they find their way back up after going down there. Made me wonder also what the bottom of the metaphorical ocean would represent power-wise.

True. Can’t have dark without light and can’t hsve light without dark. You need to have a balance of the two, Light isn’t all good and dark isn’t all bad. Everything simply is

That's not at all true. The balance does not refer to equality between light and dark - it means being balanced in life. The Dark Side is ego, it's selfish actions. That is the imbalance.

>Made me wonder also what the bottom of the metaphorical ocean would represent power-wise.

ULTIMATE POWAH

The Dark side is pure Id and nothing more though

The Jedi way is pure anti-Id, an outright rejection of instinct and subconscious drive

That's why they're both wrong

>Made me wonder also what the bottom of the metaphorical ocean would represent power-wise.
Probably Plagueis-level shit like keeping people from dying and creating life

>The Sith ideal represents too much life, too much passion, too much vibrancy,

This is definitely not true by OT logic. Palpatine's empire is the embodiment of sterility and the machine. It's not a coincidence that you never see a woman imperial in the OT.

What about Dark Jedi?

I see, sorry for the confusion. My take on the force deals a lot with the concepts of yin and yang in Buddhism. So I got a little misinformed

bad
they're fanfic tier
basically
>"I want to be a heroic jedi, but force lightning is rad"
or edgelords who think they're good people deep down

Wish we got more info on Plagueis. I love concepts of forbidden knowledge and power.

Grey = Incompetent Jedi or not entirely awful Sith.

What about a Jedi who travels around the galaxy saving people but killing gangs and stuff like a space punisher? Where would that fit in?

That is where you're mistaken. The Dark Side is not an option, it's a path. The idea of ying and yang assumes that one would always make the right choice when given a selfish option. The more times you pick the selfish option - the less likely you will see the 'right' choice as right. It then becomes your right. The force is about everyone and everything; it's not about you.

Bad writing

Faggots

>Grey jedi
>Rey jedi

Dark Jedi are Jedi who get corruoted by the Dark Side, i.e. Anakin, Dooku, etc.

Sith are a completely different dogma. Grey Jedi are just guys like Qui-Gon Jin who walk the line between.

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There is no "grey code" because it isn't a group like the Jedi or the Sith.

Isn't that kinda the yellow lightsaber guys from The Old Republic MMORPG?

Grey.

>Grey Jedi

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>horseshoe theory

Jedi in mid-transition to the Dark side.

I'd argue that when Anakin slaughtered the Sand People he was a dark Jedi, he didn't succumb to the Dark side until he killed the younglings.

Sith.

Jedi = Deontological ethics.
Sith = Consequentialist ethics.

Extrajudicial killing of gang members to prevent crime is consequentialist.

Sentinels, yeah pretty much.

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Haha I guess you’re right user, it was just a leftover idea that I would daydream about in class back in high school

The whole point of Greys is that they think shit like that makes sense, but the don't have the same thirst for power a Sith has been indoctrinated with. They are Jedi Protestants.

>Wrong, sir, wrong
>Reddit spacing
>Opinion based on the names of the sides alone and not any actual in-world events

Ex-Jedi who embrace the dark side but but aren't actually Sith.

This. He already started then, and it was at that point an unstoppable path. He surrendered the Jedi code by seeking revenge under the illusion of Justice.

Every action that followed brought him closer into Palpy's grasp. Palpy knew Anakin was a Dark Jedi during the opera so he decided to entice him with the lure of Sith dogma.

I've always associated Jedi and Sith as separate schools of the force, not opposites at the end of a spectrum so in theory I have no issue with other schools existing outside of these two but to dumb it down to a 3rd inbetween is just boring.

Personally if I had my way it would be.

1. Blue saber is to honor the ancient school Je-ko.
2. Green saber is to honor the ancient school of Di-ka.
3. Both merged schools as they both considered each teachings useful to one another and birthed a new school called Jedi.
4. Purple saber is to honor the ancient school of Xentu. Very few force sensitive beings in the Jedi order practice this school anymore as it uses techniques associated with the dark side.
5. Red saber just being the Sith.

No need for this grey Jedi stuff and personally sounds just like kid fan fiction.

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Being a grey jedi is fucking retarded.
That is like saying I will be a Nazi but just a little.

Radical centrists are a bunch of faggots

There is no grey Jedi you idiots
If you aren’t in a sith group or Jedi group with codes then you are either a light side force user or a dark side one

Ashoka is like this after she leaves the Jedi, just a light side user

The Sith are a different dogma, which includes alchemy and other dark arts designed to maintain power.

Dark Jedi just use their skills for evil acts.

star wars lore is so fucking cringe holy shit

This man has ideas.

>That is like saying I will be a Nazi but just a little.
"I really hate the Jews and Polish, but I only want to throw sausages at them."

Are you arguing that the Jedi ideal is to have feelings and make babies? Or that the Sith are known for restraint and obeying rules?

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The entire categorization is flawed from the Start. The Jedi should not be an ideological or religious order, it should be purely military/political. The Sith shouldn't even be a thing beyond a pejorative term to describe someone that uses the force irresponsibly. Greys shouldn't have any kind of code, they should just be called "force users that aren't a member of the Jedi Order.

There should have been multiple organizations that had force users for any numbers of functions in society with variation in how the force was used and to what end. The Jedi should have been nothing more than one of those organizations rather than being some broad sect.

The idea of idiosyncratic Jedi existing outside of the order and its dogmas is fine, but this entire 'ying yang' view of the force is horseshit.

There is no active dark side. The Sith, and most dark side users are selfish humanists who see the force as a font of power to be tapped into and used for their own betterment. The Jedi try to listen for and understand the will of the force and grow in accordance with its will. The force is an inherently good entity.

The Jedi order grew apart from the goodness inherent in the force in favor of neutrality and politics, they opposed not only evil, but also love (both eros and agape, they were against attachment), they began to view their responsibility to the Republic, to DEMOCRACY! as more important than their responsibility to the will of the force. Anakin was given to the Jedi as a chosen one to show them the power of love, to get them set straight. The Jedi Order failed that test, while Luke succeeded. Once Luke had succeeded, the son of the force, Anakin, faded from existence, having fulfilled the prophecy and restored balance to the force not just through destroying evil, but through restoring good.

I'm an OT guy. The dark side is what breaks the balance. The dark side is like the cancer.

The forgot the sentinels, who wield yellow sabers, but yeah this is fine. The fact greys and darks are still Jedi seems to fuck people up. They are raised in the order, then they go their own way. Sut are completely separate.

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Great video on the subject.

Gay as fuck.

They actually were in the EU. You had the Baran Do Sages, Fallanassi, Theran Listeners, etc.

WHY NOT?

all force users who dont follow sith or jedi code

Grey Jedi are still Jedi, they just do morally ambigious stuff like wager for the life of a slave in a deadly pod race.
Dark Jedi are still Jedi, they are just corrupted by the Dark Side.
Sith are seperate. They even train their apprentices different. You ever seen a Jedi do 920* spin?

I like Legacy's idea of non-edgy/Sith Imperial Force users serving the Emperor as the living embodiment of Order and the Force.

>Implying Jedi aren't just Republicucks

>You forgot the sentinels, who wield yellow sabers

I'm not familar with them so I've only focused on the Lucas trilogies sabers. Personally having a multi rainbow collection of sabers bogs down the mythos of the force in my eyes even though I do like the idea of wielding yellow or orange sabers.

The force is like the yin-yang. It makes sense that in the dark side, which represents passion and untamed emotion, there's cold machinery at the centre like we see in the Galactic Empire. It also makes sense that in the light side of the force at the centre holds a passion for life and kindness, like we see in Luke Skywalker and Obi-Wan.

I imagine OT was based on medieval european fantasy with kings and queens ruling the galaxy and the empire gobbling the free kingdoms up with its massive strength. Most courts had their own orders of jedi knights. Kenobi was part of Leias court which is why she sent for his help. PT messed up the lore by making Jedi knight the order and they were asian mystics instead medieval european knights. Geirge Lucas messed up a lot of things in the PT. Like Kenobis clothes being jedi clothes when they were just desert clothes.

>but evil must be allowed to flourish

Fuck off reddit.
The force isn't some yin-yang shit. The Dark side of the force is like the Dark Side of a person's personality. It's a corruption.
When you are powerful in the force and don't practice extreme asceticism and refrain from temptations your power pushes you to an inevitable spiral of indulgence and pride that destroys the individual and all around them. They become a gaping wound that devours all virtue until they loose their humanity.
This is why Darth Vader is a faceless robot man. This is why the Empire is sterile. This is why the Jedi don't fuck bitches. This is why the Jedi divorce themselves from all sentimental attachments and focus on universal compassion.

Sentinels were the people they sent to bum fuck nowhere to resolve political disputes as they were proficient in the force as well as the blade.
Blue=Guardians (generals, warriors)
Yellow=Sentinels (diplomats, Dark Jedi hunters)
Green=Masters (Philsophers, teachers)

i love how most of the "grey jedi" thing was just the original point of the actual jedi, until the prequels happened.

You're not disagreeing at all

Is this the soyboy general?

>Jedi don't fuck bitches
Jedi can fuck whoever they want, they just can't get attached. What sounds more indulgent, a Sith faithful to his wife or some Jedi fucking every hoe in the galaxy?