Was this show made to appeal to self-hating blacks?

Was this show made to appeal to self-hating blacks?

>dude every black person is an idiot except me lmao

It was made to have an animated television show that starred a prominent cast of black people, and to educate ignorant white people (and ignorant black people, who also gets portrayal in characters like Riley) of the injustices black people suffer every day, all under the guise of funny writing.

Boondocks was a great show, much more anti-establishment than South Park.

It was a comedy show dedicated to showing the faults of the black community, while also showing love to them. It doesn't appeal to self-hating blacks, it's about showing the dumb shit niggas do & telling them to do better.

How does showing black people acting retarded educate white people on racial injustice?

No, it's a far-left black nationalist show. The fact that whites unironically laugh at all the black antics in it is just a side effect.

This is the correct answer.
>inb4 omg Sup Forums can you just like not I can't even right now

Also the dumb shit that is put upon them. But moreso the dumb shit they do.

>it's about showing the dumb shit niggas do & telling them to do better
Fucking perfectly said.

About as much as Dilbert appeals to self-hating whites.

I don't even know how anyone could see that as Sup Forums. Fuck, I think Sup Forums is complete shit, but part of loving anything (country, show, race, whatever) is admitting that it has flaws & wanting to see them do better. And of course, Boondocks also showed dumb shit that happens to blacks like what said.

???

No.
Self hating blacks believe everything wrong in their community has to do solely with themselves and ignore the snowballing of centuries of oppression, forced broken family units, and the fact that they are barely even two generations removed from finally having the same rights as Whites.

This show finds itself in a position a bit more neutral than that. It shows that there are problems within the black community but points out the problems outside said community as well

This
South Park NEVER said something about Obama, since almost a decade it became completely part of the establishment.

but the fanbase are still pretending it's not a political show.

so Huey is really the character everytimes right?
because hes nothing but a radical conspirationnist who believe this is still the 70's.

I love being black and I liked Boondocks, so no

>of the injustices black people suffer every day,
Hello tumbler.

What's with all the Boondocks threads lately? Did it get put on Netflix? Did McGruder call someone a faggot?

And then there's this faggot

Its a show about black people by black people who aren't afraid to alugh at themselves and point the problems around
And that's why it's better than 99% of shit on TV, people think cursing is censored and it's funny when it's not but the real problem with censorship it's how narrow the spectrum of things and opinions you can show becomes
That's why the Simpson, Bob's burgers and family Guy are all essentially the same thing

This.
It's just a show about Black people with magic surrealism and cartoon/anime logic. It tackles social issues on top of it. Are the character's flawed? Yes, just like humans in real life. Black family. Take away all the fantasy and it's a show about Black culture and social issues. Just like how if you take away the mafia aspect of The Sopranos it's still a series about Italian-American culture.

>waaah pity me I face injustice every day, i'm so oppressed posting on Sup Forums right now.

But this is wrong. It's about the black experience writ large. That INCLUDES the dumb shit black people do but is also HEAVILY concerned with the evil/dumb shit white people/America does - more so than the dumb shit black people do.

>never
In the show he's a professional thief that accidentally the Presidency. He spends a lot of time making excuses for the behavior of rich, powerful men, decides to watch tv with his family when nuclear apocalypse looms, and makes a deal with China to rig his reelection.

Sorry they didn't get around to showing he's actually Satan in a brown skin suit or whatever, dude just wasn't that interesting as President. Matt and Trey have been wanting to get away from making fun of the President anyway, it's too expected and everyone is doing it.

>blacks actually point out what's wrong with their culture and poke some fun at their race while they're at it
>'must be made by some self-hating uncle ruckuses.'
Shit like this is why we can't talk about real race problems anymore.

>evil shit white people do
how's tumblr doing this time of year?

>if you're not a gangbanger thug or fucking retard you're a self hating nigger
Okay

I'm a traditionalist but must admit I find this show's social commentary a cut above what's found in The Simpsons, Futurama, Family guy, American dad and South park.

This. What dumbass thinks it's a show about black people hating black people? It's political satire that's unafraid of being uncomfortable for all parties, black or otherwise

Blacks are insecure emotionalist. Isn't this obvious by now?

No more than King Of The Hill appeals to self-hating whites.

I AM THE STONE THAT THE BUILDER REFUSED

How's it feel to be compelled to reply to every comment that threatens you with the same tired meme because you're intellectually incapable of coming up with anything more sophisticated, original, or nuanced?

If you think that's what's going on you don't know who Aaron McGruder is.

>insecure emotionalist
That's the dumbest thing I've read today. Do you also think people should just blink at insults and racial slurs like they never happened?

Exhibit B

The show was literally made for white people.
>"Lol, look at these niggers act like niggers!"

This is the audience. It's like an animated Chappelle show.

>can't make fun of other people
>can't make fun of yourself either
really rouses my receptors

>its a show about all black people being retarded lmao
>cherry picks the dumb blacks
>ignores the smart blacks and the ones ostracized by their community for being hard working like Leonard

>Sup Forums is this bullied by leddit

so these guys are both black then?

>if a black person watches a show that critiques polly wogs he hates himself

Thread should've ended here.

No, Huey is wrong in a different way. The show points out that despite having good intentions, he'll never succeed in the revolution because Black People willfully choose to be ignorant. It's not all bad since ignorant characters like Thugnificent, Gangstalicious, Granddad, and Riley always face the consequences of their actions.

>he'll never succeed in the revolution because Black People willfully choose to be ignorant
not really him in the wrong then so much as the people

>forced broken family units

Yeah, the show is just an honest. Honesty is rarely pretty. Aaron doesn't discriminate, though, he's equally critical of everything that he feels is corrupt or immoral. I think the show focuses on the black community because, let's face it, the black community rarely gets criticism from anyone that isn't some dumbass racist. He strikes me as someone who likes to shine a light on things that everyone else isn't.

I agree and disagree with him on a variety of topics, but I always respect his opinion because his views are consistent. I never feel like an ulterior motivate is controlling him, and I don't get the impression that he holds back on punches because he's afraid to offend someone.

In that sense, Aaron is more South Park than South Park.

I always thought Thugnificent had the best end.

I always much preferred when this show was sentimental than when it was political, like the Huey painting episode, or the one about grandad's friend dying.

That's because he was smart enough to get a humble job as a delivery man while Granddad continues to waste money on dating crazy women, or stupid financial decisions.

>I don't get the impression that he holds back on punches because he's afraid to offend someone.

He started doing less topical episodes for the show because he pissed off Al Sharpton.

>Granddad continues to waste money on dating crazy women
Didn't he explain that in the episode? That he was old and fairly close to death and just wanted to enjoy himself some?

So much for courage.

McGruder made on hell of an IP that died a slow and painful death around the middle of season two, autistically I will break down each season from the perspective of a black autist.
Season one has McGruder examining black culture, critiquing what he saw as pitfalls that black people can fall into and ruin themselves in. Mixed in with this is light humor aimed at comforting the audience as harsher themes and elements are introduced. To compliment this each character is written and designed to represent different strata of black culture and society. With the two leads being the most important choices a black person can make in today's society, education or ignorance. Through all of this, he approaches each issue with nuance and careful thought. There are no direct enemies and all characters can be wrong to some degree and right, even Uncle Rukas.

This is best exemplified in the episode Return of the King, where McGruder shoves his middle finger in the faces of the selfish over privilaged black community. He pulls no punches and destroys the community for what they've done to the Civil Rights Movement and each character is in rare form.
Season Two has McGruder on fumes. While he still delivers competent episodes he;s more rushed. He's giving episodes less thought and decentralizing the creative process allowing the writer's room to start writing the premises and scripts themselves. This is the start of a steady decline in writing quality.
Season Three has one clear message: McGruder doesn't want to do this anymore. The characters are vague shadows of what they were from season three. The show is more vindictive to prove Huey wrong and glorify Reily's life. characters who were seen as idiots before are now the voices of reasons not because they are but the staff legitimately agreed with their stupidity and now promotes them as clear cut heroes. Plots are no longer gray but black and white. This person is wrong this person is right.

Season 4 is retarded.

>he pissed off Al Sharpton
Well, if anything can make me forgive him it's that.

I should have been more specific. I can't blame anyone for bending to leverage. "Is this the hill you want to die on" and yadda yadda.

I'm probably being a hypocrite here, but it feels like South Park has been backing off in fear of getting pressure without actually getting it. I'm not even conservative but they seem a little intimidated by the left, and willing to bend to them. And these are the guys who depicted Muhammed twice.

>It's self hating to believe everyone is responsible for their own problems

Black Entertainment Television... is the worst thing I've ever seen in my life!

>he'll never succeed in the revolution because Black People willfully choose to be ignorant
He'll never succeed in the revolution because some black people are ignorant, some white people are ignorant, some black people are malevolent (Stinkmeaner, BET), some white people are malevolent (Wuncler), some black people misplace their trust (Tom), and some white people misplace their trust (Jasmine). The agency of all of these parties in their behavior is never fully addressed; some are victims of the system, some are trying to protect their domain, etc.

But the show also shows MULTIPLE times that it's worth it put up the fight anyway. The prisoner, the Black Jesus play, Huey's helping hand to Jasmine after the lemonade stand thing.

I want to say that white people don't understand this show. But that wouldn't be true; plenty do. Just not most of the white people who come to Sup Forums.

I thought Al Sharpton was a racist anyway.

>The show was literally made for white people.
No it wasn't.

Al Sharpton isn't racist, it's pretty common of the Black shows to portray him as greed and self serving.

Why are you talking about a revolution when all the examples you listed are more, how to be a decent human being, rather than, a radical communist uprising where everyone is equal when we say so.

>This is best exemplified in the episode Return of the King, where McGruder shoves his middle finger in the faces of the selfish over privilaged black community. He pulls no punches and destroys the community for what they've done to the Civil Rights Movement and each character is in rare form.
How do you people misunderstand this episode so completely.

Anyway, the best episode is the lemonade stand episode, not Return of the King.

What is the point then?

the only correct answer to OPs dumbass question

Season 4 was

Huey's dream is a revolution where people use the existing structures to upend the hypocrisies and corruption of the system; he wanted basketball players to boycott and Oprah to fulfill her potential.

What actually works for him is being a decent human, yes, but often specifically in opposition to what expectations of society. The system had tried, convicted, and condemned a man. His case was effectively closed. Huey's response was to uncover the facts and protest, even though for all intents and purposes the system was working as it should be and it had decided that that man needed to die to fulfill his debt to society.

It was made so Sup Forumstards like you could miss the point. Cry more faggot.

Every season was.

The point isn't King's tirade. It's that it spurred on change. People focus on the monologue because it's shocking coming from him, but countless demagogues have berated the black community in such a way - and, considering what we know these days about how those conditions came about, it's not even clear that they're warranted.

But what's most important about the episode is that, in the end, the people rediscover their agency, regardless of whether or not the criticisms leveled against them are true.

The way people look at it, it's like if someone made a movie about the Newtown shooting and walked away thinking that the actual attack scenes were thematically more important than the scenes looking at the sociopolitical aftermath.

Why did McGruder quit? Was he burnt out or something?

Sticks and stones may brake my bones but words will never hurt me

He was working on Black Jesus, and I think Sony wanted him to do more episodes. I think he was fired rather than quitting on his own terms. Black Jesus was great.

>Black Jesus
Was it any good?

Being a decent person isn't a revolution. Plenty of normal average people are decent and kind every day without any incentive to themselves.

It's pointless to try and stop the system that exists. No matter what people in power will consolidate and centralize power to further their own interests. With scarcity and rarity applied to resources, it is impossible for anything to change as it is human nature to desire what is rare.

Instead of reading so much Afrocentric philosophy and theory he should have just read Les Mis.

That would be a good point if the entire set up to the point wasn't, 'Black society is cancerous'.' The episode ending as Huey's impotent wet dream dissolves your point and leaves only the set up to that moment as the current status quo. It would be great if that actually happened, but it never will because King's rant is as powerless and Huey's dream.

According to interviews, he went full Alex Hirsch on season one, micro managing every part of the show and its creation.

It was meant to show the actual scenario black people face every day

Yes they face police brutality from police officers of all races but they also are responsible for doing incredibly stupid shit for superficial spectacle

Just as one of many examples

The MLK episode was a solid representation of the modern black critique whereas the Passion of Uncle Ruckus was a solid critique of general idolatry in the US

Al shapton is EXTREMELY racist, he HATES white people

Yes, yes it is.

Just off the top of my head if I walked outside and mugged the first person I saw it wouldn't be their fault, but it would definitely be their problem.

Considerably. It had a good message, a good lead and it pissed off white people when it first aired.

Huey being a black supremacist and Afrocentric is part of the joke. It just doesn't work because they're few in numbers among the black community.

>it pissed off white people when it first aired.
Who? I wasn't pissed off by it. Maybe if it was the 1980s or earlier I can see White people being pissed off about a television show but post 2010s obscure late night adult swim live action show? Nah.

>posts interracial porn to bamboozle the ebil nazis every single day
>calls others manchildren

When season 4 was being made he was already planning or working on Black Jesus. It's why season 4 is low quality

I thought the Freedom Riders Episode was good, but the Kardashian episode was blueballing as fuck.

Mostly religious people baffled at the depiction of Jesus as a black man. At my old job three years ago, I had a picture of Jesus as a black man on display and ten minutes later, the frame was broken.

I was in Savannah at the time.

>injustices black people suffer every day

ITT: white people dont get black people

No seriously.

Just try.

it was made to mock black american culture which is trash.

Nice false equivalence. We're obviously talking about behavioral problems here.

Nice attempt at moving the goal post, no we were not.

>Mostly religious people baffled at the depiction of Jesus as a black man.
The show is obvious satire. "Black Jesus" is walking around compton. Seems like if anyone was upset it was religous based, not race based.
>At my old job three years ago, I had a picture of Jesus as a black man on display and ten minutes later, the frame was broken.
Interesting anecodate but I don't see how you know it was broken because Jesus was Black, and even if it was that has nothing to do with the show.

I always love these threads, because it always shows just how many people don't fucking get what The Boondocks was all about, yet they keep acting like they do.

I'm neither, and I don't get African-Americans either.

That said, I'm really interested to know how The Boondocks would play in today's political climate.

No, being black was the exact reason it triggered those types. None of the complaints were from black pastors, clergymen, etc. And I mentioned Savannah for a reason: Eight years down there and the religious nutjobs are a dime a dozen, along with all the bibles, faith-based books donated to the job and a church being on every damn corner.

Being neck deep in that shit for that long, you'd know why Black Jesus triggered the response it did. Moreso if you know how the black church is with their depiction of Jesus.

I'd say the negative reaction to black depictions of Jesus comes more from the racist side than the religious side. As an evangelical religion Christianity has a long history of syncretism in art that continues to this day--look at the depiction of Jesus in missionary materials intended for Asia and Africa. It'd be as goofy about complaining that a depiction of Christ is pasty, wears medieval clothing, and reads from books instead of a scrolls.

Yes we are. That's what this entire thread is about.

It was a social commentary on black and general societal issues. McGruder was always on the side of reason over hysteria and tribalism. The R Kelly trial, the Obama episode, and the MLK Jr. episode show this. He's not down with ignorance and stupid attempts to be progressive.

Its like the same situation with Dave Chapelle and the reason he stopped doing his show.

That, too.
I'd even wager the same people I mentioned in addition to being religious were racist, too. I'm at least 65% sure.