Maybe if I watched RO again I'd gain more appreciation for it But seeing it in theaters bored me to tears, and I really couldn't care about the main cast
Watching a walkthough of the campaign since I ain't paying 60 bucks for a single player campaign. This story is boring as shit.
Ryder Walker
>>PEOPLE STILL ARGUING OVER LUKE IN TLJ i think continued discussion is good, honestly. Annoying as fuck but good. He was based as fuck in TLJ, I dont care what anyone says. I just hope his force ghost is in IX plenty
Camden Hernandez
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Logan Cruz
Galen pls come back
Nathan Morgan
Here we go again: >First up - we have the cute traitor Barriss Offee facing off against Jedi loli Ganodi strawpoll.me/14704725 >For our next match up the strong bounty huntress Sugi takes on the clumsy Gungan farmer Peppi Bow strawpoll.me/14704726 >Next up we have vicious bounty huntess Aurra Sing face off against "Stardust" Jyn Erso strawpoll.me/14704727 >Lastly we have the cruel Phasma face off against the thicc thief, Cassie Cryar strawpoll.me/14704731
Daniel Baker
Rogue One gives me strange feelings Live in the west midlands gf life-models for art classes occasionally About a year before RO comes out, she says 'the girl from the stephen hawking movie' had come to the class Watch RO in the cinema All I can think about is how Jyn Erso had seen my girlfriend naked huge, awkward boner all he way through Still can't concentrate on movie any time I try to watch it
Is the guy maintaining the canon MEGA here? I have some stuff to contriboot
Jason Lee
>only good for rancor bait desu senpai
Chase Campbell
I love it when we actually focus on the WARS aspect of Star Wars.
Zachary Morris
EXTENDED CUT WHEN?!
Liam Foster
What star wars comics promintently feature a chistori? Bonus points if they are the protagonist
Matthew Howard
>crazy attempted child murderer hobo who doesn't give a fuck about his friends or the galaxy >based
Pick one.
Benjamin Clark
Nothing was based about TLJ Luke. He was just a loser.
Justin Barnes
So was ANH Luke and ESB luke
Dominic Jenkins
At least, he was young and later learned to be more mature.
Brayden Clark
>He was based as fuck in TLJ My man. Punished 'Venom' Luke who has to work hard, overcome struggles and insecurities, and earn his moment of badassery in the end, will always be much more interesting than the untouchable paragon version many people wanted.
Jose Thompson
OT Luke was a hero who never gave up on his friends and his father despite his own mentors telling him Anakin was beyond saving.
ST Luke tried to murder his nephew in his sleep because executive fiat demanded a bad end.
Alexander Ramirez
>ST Luke tried to murder his nephew in his sleep because executive fiat demanded a bad end. Wew lad, were you even paying attention
Wyatt Smith
Learning never stops. Even for teachers. It was a good message.
Jayden White
Clearly not
What? Did we watch the same movie? Luke never tried too kill kylo
Lucas Stewart
TLJfags get out. This is a Rogue One thread.
Noah Morales
I have seen a recording of him... killing younglings Or, at least, considering it for a second
Jace King
>Or at least tried to Oh I thought you were implying Luke tried to kill Kylo
Alexander Hall
giant saw head pls go
Grayson Stewart
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Easton Smith
THIS glad to see another user who gets it
Gabriel Reyes
>Learning never stops.
But it rarely needs repeating unless you're an idiot. This is like going through a second elongated emo phase in your 50s.
Xavier Harris
Honestly, I think people seriously misinterpret Kylo Ren’s role as a villain, and not in a “he’s so misunderstood” Draco in leather pants kind of way.
He’s fascinating because he’s one of the few fictional villains that has some stuff in common with some of the real men who do dangerous and deadly things– he’s posturing, he feels persecuted, he’s explosive and uncontrolled, when he tries to look like a cool villain and give off that glib/‘badass’ vibe, it feels forced and awkward, it’s easy to laugh at him, but then he does something incredibly evil and reminds you that pathetic wannabes can be really scary dudes, too. He reminds me of school shooters, domestic abusers, extremely vitriolic alt-right internet trolls.
He doesn’t represent some grand vision or evil master plan like Voldemort. It’s all about outwardly channeling his inner turmoil and rage into self-aggrandizement, getting control over other people because he can’t control himself. He has thoughts, feelings, weaknesses, and at least a little bit of good in him. That doesn’t make him a misunderstood hero. The fact that he’s human and three dimensional and has people who care about him is part of what makes him more like the real evil that walks among us every day in the world.
People are always saying, “Kylo Ren is such a pathetic villain, he’s a whiny emo trying to dress up like a cool bad guy,” but that is lampshaded IN-universe, that people think that’s lame, too, even Snoke. People keep thinking that Kylo was supposed to be a cool villain like Darth Vader and that the movies failed miserably in portraying him as one, but I don’t see how.
Camden Nguyen
>has to work hard
At what? Subsistence living?
>overcome struggles and insecurities
When? He essentially just commits suicide like he always wanted, he went to the island to die and did.
>earn his moment of badassery in the end
When? How? He just turned his force back on and really didn't do anything badass since he was actually intangible the whole time.
Levi Russell
Which one is then?
Luke Myers
>He essentially just commits suicide like he always wanted I see you fell asleep during the entire crait scene
Liam Nelson
Projecting yourself through the force the way he did isn't something we've seen in the movies at all. Showcasing a new force technique and saving what's left of the resistance is a pretty cool feat.
And it also plays into the whole "the force isnt just moving rocks" thing.
Camden Nelson
Hardly, it's suicide with a purpose in mind, but still suicide.
How is an illusion badass though? It's actually kind of cowardly. It's not like he actually saves the resistance either. He buys them some time but they themselves have to find a way out, and only Rey showing up and moving the rocks and getting them aboard the Falcon actually saves them.
Jace Taylor
You have to be a shitposter So if a soldier saves his entire troop but ends up dead on a suicide run it was 'only suicide with a purpose, but still suicide' because he had nothing to lose and wanted to do one last good thing?
Justin Hernandez
Gee, it's almost as though his buying them time and also telling his nephew to fuck off was part of a TEAM EFFORT to save the resistance
Luis Lewis
>So if a soldier saves his entire troop but ends up dead on a suicide run it was 'only suicide with a purpose, but still suicide'
No the point was he didn't actually overcome anything. His death was noble, but still what he wanted all along. If a suicidal soldier commits suicide to save his squad then he never really overcame his suicidal impulse, he just put it to better use.
Okay, being a distraction is still not badass. He's not even really that, since there was no co-ordinated plan. Maybe Luke could have shown them to the back door, but no, they just have to find it themselves. It's more coincidence than team effort
Chase Sullivan
>this entire post yeah okay you got me bait-kun. Here's your last you
Austin Harris
Making it more "real" has made the franchise a soapbox for some shitty divisive politics. Hold-the-door and Rey being the most obvious examples.
Hudson Ortiz
>B-b-bait
How about you just admit that Luke was not badass by any reasonable metric in TLJ?
Eli Gray
Reminder not to reply to Sup Forumsourists
Wyatt Long
They can't. Their whole worldview is based on this. Once they admit it was shit, that entire worldview collapses.
Jordan Kelly
So I've had more than a week to sit on the Last Jedi and it's still an "okay" film to me. I get hating on it for continuity and writing reasons, but why do both neckbeards and soyboys try to inject their politics into everything?
I mean, fuck, it's always "muh fascism" or "muh sjws" with these whiny cunts on both ends of the spectrum.
Ethan Hughes
Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson purposely injected their politics into TLJ (and TFA) to an extent. Holda for example is based on Rian's girlfriend. And KK has been purposely pushing for greater female representation at the detriment of the franchise.
Andrew Fisher
Leave SW to him.
Tyler Perry
It's an illusion across the galaxy that punked out the First Order completely. It's a new force technique we've never seen before (in the movies, IDK if it happened in the EU), and you know, he did create an actual physical object with those dice.
What else could they have done with him to have a cool moment? Have him flip around and kill shit like a cgi yoda? Woulda been retarded as fuck.
Joshua Ramirez
>It's b-bait He made a good point and this is your response?
He is right that there was no team effort and that the resistance just got lucky by finding the way out or they would have been doomed regardless of Luke's "sacrifice".
Eli Brooks
Kathleen I get but Rian went on record and said he's actively avoiding politics in one interview. Makes me wish Rey was as cool as Jaina, though.
Ayden Perry
Luke overcoming his issues would really have been him deciding to live on, leave the island and train new Jedi. Having him decide to just die without actually doing anything to ensure that there will be new Jedi really didn't bring his character anywhere.
Gavin Wright
Do you feel in charge?
Jacob Morales
something I am also very interested in.
Joshua Davis
Daily reminder that liking TFA and TLJ is accepting mediocrity and shitty writing.
Gabriel Bailey
I've seen the muh boogeyman videos and it's like these literal who slacktivists can't grasp that it's just a fucking movie.
John Collins
How does he explain Holdo then? The entire fucking thing is a reversal from previous established norms (like in TCW) just to shill how the Rebellion is so feminist with stronk women leading us.
Robert Murphy
>The entire fucking thing is a reversal from previous established norms Uh, what established norms did she reverse, exactly?
Blake White
Mon Mothma was a thing, but she was handled much better in every way possible.
>It's an illusion across the galaxy that punked out the First Order completely.
"Punking" isn't really a heroic maneuver though, Luke isn't portrayed as a trickster anywhere else.
>What else could they have done with him to have a cool moment?
Any number of things. The most basic of which would be to actually of have him there. We saw earlier on in the movie that water travelled along the Rey-Kylo force connection, so actually having Luke show up in the flesh was not out of bounds. They could have had him actually save the Resistance as well, perhaps showing them the exit and holding the tunnel entrance from the First Order. until Kylo shows up and they can have an actually dramatic duel.
Jace Wright
>Have him flip around and kill shit like a cgi yoda? Woulda been retarded as fuck.
Yeah, sassy Limbo Skywalker was much more tasteful.
Lucas Harris
Luke punked Jacen by projecting his image onto Jaina in one of the Legacy of the Force books.
Gabriel Reed
Unquestioning obedience of orders and commanders telling people to stfu about any reservations was portrayed entirely in a negative light in the Krell Arc of TCW. And lead to the Clones arresting their commanding officer who turned out to be a Sith wannabe.
Also MM had no rank in the rebellion and was a political leader. While Holdo has an admiral rank,
Noah Scott
And Leia was a general. Don't get me wrong, I have personal reasons for hating feminists, but I really think seeing them everywhere is kinda stressful.
Anthony Rodriguez
Kyle sure does hate family reunions.
Robert Rodriguez
To be fair, Holdo was just a disposable character to set up Poe's role as a leader for Episode 9. I mean, they can't use Leia and her line to follow Poe kinda hinted at it.
William White
Fair enough, but it's still a space adventure/action story that tries its best to undermine its own antagonists, and that's not only including Kylo Ren.
Disney's properties seem to be really afraid of antagonists who feel like credible obstacles, if Marvel villains are any indication. I can appreciate Kylo Ren's human qualities, but it's frustrating being unable to really get engrossed in the conflict when everyone in-universe and out just laughs at the bad guys like they're the bad guys from Spaceballs. I get that he's dangerous in the unhinged way, but then why portray him as a joke? I would like if the movie explored how dangerous he is more. That scene where he goes ballistic in the room with the officer from Force Awakens wasn't really shot to show how scary he is, it was shot for comedy.
Trust me, I "get it", I get the intent behind Kylo Ren, I just don't think it's quite as effective the way it's shot and structured.
Nolan Green
It was less about unquestioning obedience and more about Poe not flying off the handle with his own shit every time.
You know, one of the things I really like is Star Wars novels. Is there anything to expect for 2018? I really hope we get more than just tie-in novels.
Jackson Gomez
>Trust me, I "get it", I get the intent behind Kylo Ren, I just don't think it's quite as effective the way it's shot and structured I honestly don't and I think his character is poorly written.
The only thing he has going for him is that Adam is better actor than most of the new cast.
Ayden Adams
Apparently there is a Padme novel coming.
Josiah Campbell
Just the next Zahn Thrawn novel so far.
Nicholas Powell
Interesting. I hope it give some depth to her character.
Josiah Price
Did the Last Jedi finally signal the end of this being a mainstream franchise?
Jeremiah Myers
I think it's YA though.
Landon Edwards
Is it Claudia Grey?
Robert Ross
Sadly it was too good for the retarded masses, yes.
Lucas Turner
No idea. No info has been released on it.
Mason Mitchell
I refuse to believe that is true. The hyperspace scene?
Nathan Nguyen
It's barely doing better than Justice League.
LFL and Disney rightfully should be worried especially given how poorly it scores in overseas markets in the global south.
Noah Clark
I don't get TLJ hate. What, did you want another JJ film where he gave all the answers and made it completely predictable? The only criticism I have is that Finn's mission was inconsequential. Even then it allowed for character growth that didn't exist in TFA. I don't have high hopes for JJ directing IX, but TLJ was excellent.
Landon Taylor
Yes. It's legit true, people on twitter replied to the article saying the same thing happened at their screenings.
Andrew Young
>half the movie is pointless >Luke is no longer in character, much as Han wasn't in TFA >rose prevents a sacrifice which would have saved others >holdo is literally the worst leader ever costing her people's lives for literally no reason >PORGS!!!!
How much does Disney pay you?
Brandon Smith
>What, did you want another JJ film where he gave all the answers and made it completely predictable?
