I want cheesecake back

I want cheesecake back

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I don't get where the meme that cheesecake is gone from comic books comes from.

Or gone from anywhere really. It's hard to search for images for a lot of female characters without finding hundreds of tits and ass cheesecake before finding a canon image for reference.

Not him. But I think he's talking about cheesecake back in the comics not as just artwork.

the cheesecake will come back. It was winning too hard, for too long, and people got bitter. prudery will get overconfident and overreach. people will get sick of that, eventually, and skanks in underwear will come back to comics. maybe wait until Trump is out of office?

people are super salty because he is widely accepted to be a sexual assaulter, possibly a rapist, yet is still president. now is not the time to have bubble tits in pop media. let some more powerful men get excoriated, give the SJWs Trump's scalp, then cheesecake can come back safely. remember, Liberals LOVE porn. don't believe conservative disinformation. Porn companies have thrived under Clinton and Obama

Is this a cheesecake thread or not? Because y'all ain't posting none.

Yeah I kinda agree.
I'm not puling my hair out that cheesecake is pretty much gone.
But I do feel like there's no reason to 100% abolish it.
I think there's room for at least a couple of books to cater to men's perverted fantasy of women.

Marvel and DC are trying to get into the mainstream, as well as maximize sales. you can't make a billion dollars by only selling to guys. You NEED to appeal to female audiences, or at least not insult them. Also, you can't get moms to buy their little girls Harley Quinn and Supergirl dolls, when those characters are dressing like strippers in the comics. there is a fine line between sexy and confident and skanky.

And they’re fucking failing at it

The last couple of Batman issues with the Lois and Clark/Bruce and Selina dynamic are full of cheesecake, user. It hasn't gone anywhere.

there is no reason to abolish it. Sex is an extremely important fact of life. we all enjoy it, and it makes a pretty tasty seasoning in the right story. And as more kids grow up in sex positive environments, they are going to want some media that discusses sex, or at least has some fun with it. Anyone remember that Steven Universe episode where Steven and Connie first fused? that's not cheesecake, but the entire town was suddenly thirsty for tranny co... er.. whatever Stevonnie was packing...

also, boobs are pretty nice decorations and a great costume design element

>men's perverted fantasy of women.
Appreciating a woman's body is a male perverted fantasy of women. Totally agree user let's make ourselves extinct via abstinence from sex.

>buy their little girls Harley Quinn and Supergirl dolls, when those characters are dressing like strippers in the comics.
>Harley Quinn

failing at what? capturing the mainstream? last I checked, the MCU was hitting nothing but home runs, Netflix's Marvel shows got a ton of press, and DC Superhero Girls take up a good bit of Target's toy aisle.

if you need more proof, the number of bitter nerds is inversely proportional to mainstream success. as evidence, I present to you: Michael Bay's Transformers

what about her?

Isn't there female media that appeals to females? Why do women need male media to pander to them? Get the fuck outta here and read your vampire bodice rippers.

someone just bring sexy back

the cheesecake has left comics and gone into video games. also, if anyone tries to tell you that SJWs hate fun and hate sex, point them to Overwatch

But Harley Quinn still dresses like a stripper.

Selling toys to kids and thereby glorifying criminals? The attire is perfectly acceptable however.

women do have their own media. so do guys. the thing is, if a company wants to make money, not just its favorite stuff for its favorite fans, that company needs to broaden its audience.

you know the first Hollywood movie to break 1 billion dollars in ticket sales? Titanic. if you need to ask why, then you need to watch Titanic. its been the same with any billion dollar movie: give the women a reason to show up, and they will. Video Games are going through the same thing as companies try to get better sales. every angry, racist, misogynist asshole booted off the servers doesn't just make space for a nicer player, it makes the atmosphere better and brings in more players. sacrifice one player and gain two, or three.

also, Marvel and DC are owned by much larger parent companies that are going to want to get as much money out of their investment as possible. that means mainstream appeal

Don't post pictures of my Mom pls, user

Wasn't that Jurassic Park?

>point them to Overwatch
You mean the game that has routinely given in to SJW whining about sexual themes?

I haven't kept up with the comics, but Harley's persona in other media has been really cleaned up. in SHG, she is more of a trickster who helps out the heroes. there is an evil Lex Luthor girl, and some others who are proper villains. Her role in Injustice is of a reformed criminal who is more morally gray, like Deadpool.

Their movies and TV shows are doing well, but comic sales are declining as they always have been, if not more.

if so, the point still stands. it had two interesting female characters, one of whom was a scientist.

if you are talking about that Tracer thing, then you really need to get over it. the pose change was explained, in depth, and totally makes sense. You still have Widowmaker being sexy as hell.

also, the devs acknowledge the hurricane of porn and have done nothing to discourage it. on the contrary, they lean into it by making their characters sexy, charismatic, and vague enough that you can fill in details with whatever your dirty little imagination can come up with.

bare toes and fetish footwear? they know what they are doing.

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Yeah naked feet woo wow woo. There's not a even a proper bikini skin for any of em

If a company makes money by selling fantasies to teenage boys then they should stick to that business model instead of ruining what attracts their customers to their product by pleasing some feminist vocal minority. Since, you know, comics are a fucking niche market, not their Hollywood movie counterparts. And of course you mention videogames. We have to remove all sexy things from everything for "mainstream appeal". Because the mainstream is obviously made up of easily offended third wave feminists and this isn't an attempt at political subversion of popular media, not at all. Liking sexy women is just plain wrong! Everybody will be reading comics once the female characters cover themselves with burquas!

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>this skin gives one of her hero highlights consistent panty shots
I can't believe I missed it.

the problem with you guys is that you overreact like your grandmother is being put in a wood chipper. its called "balance" man. you let a little bit go away, and you get more of another thing, in exchange. No, Overwatch has no bikini mode, but it has a cast of 50% sexy women, and one David Bowie

also, 2017 has been the year of fat booty

middle path would be ideal
leave their current stuff as is, add other stuff for others, don't perverse the older stuff

I think the other thing missing from this is some actual sales, though. I am pretty sure that if a sexy cheesecake comic came out and sold a million copies, it would inspire imitators. Its not like the 90's were full of scantily clad hero girls and "swimsuit editions" just for lols

Middle path doesn't sell.

why though? sell a to people who want a and b to those who want b.

Yeah, let go of something you like, receive something you don't like in return. Gee, it feels so good to share my hobby with a hypothetical mainstream audience that seems to be demanding exactly what identity politics advocates want from popular media.
I don't care how under or over dressed characters are, what their sexual orientation or race or literally about anything else related to a piece of media as long as it isn't trying to fucking preach political ideology to me. I want politics out of pop culture and the feminists who push it to shut the fuck up and let people enjoy things that don't hold up to their ideological doctrine.

Well he could have posted some instead of a commission inked colored by a rando.

I am not as certain as you are about that. It would have to go against a media backlash from angry Patriarchy obsessed feminists who will try to convince the public and the publishers that it's wrong and everyone actually hates it. Like they already do on a regular basis, because that's how critical theory works.

> We have to remove all sexy things from everything for "mainstream appeal"

They're not trying that hard.

You guys just get your panties in a knot when they change things up like they've done every few years for years.

Why is Domino complaining about men trying to flirt with Emma? That's such a specific thing to point out. Gee, I don't think there's any political narrative here.

Because she's trying to shoot her and they're in the way.

Uh-huh.

If having thoughts about dudes hitting on other women is political so are the tits man. This is such a paranoid frame of mind. Overlooking everything you should enjoy to complain about one little thing you don't think is right? Sounds kinda like tumblr.

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Pants where a mistake

Yeah, because this doesn't fit with the regular tirade about objectifying women at all.

>Overlooking everything you should enjoy

What am I supposed to enjoy about this? An experienced mercenary somehow has everyday girl problems like dudes hitting on her? Which is so bad, death is preferable, apparently. God forbid men express sexual interest in women, that's harassment! Oh, and you can kinda see her tits, slightly. So arousing.

I think the relaunch of Red Sonja, that mars woman and vamperilla shows how much cheesecake is important

The 90s were a great era for Cheesecake. Women used to look like women. Artists were talented and not hired off of Tumblr. Writing was more Soapish and less blogspam. What the hell happened?

Remember when Carol looked like a woman? Those were the days.

Cleavage is directly proportional to goodness. We need to unzip Cat again.

>You NEED to appeal to female audiences, or at least not insult them

Almost every girl I've ever played with in an MMO has dressed their characters in the sluttiest gear you can possibly find.

>There's not a even a proper bikini skin for any of em

I mean.
It has a few extra accessories, but it's still a sexy beach outfit.

Power Girl, She Hulk, Carol Danvers, Starfire, Poison Ivy, Angela, Scarlet Witch, Valkyrie, Storm, Black Cat, Gamora, Elektra, Psylocke ALL have been covered up in recent years, only 2 of them have reverted.

The only consistently revealing characters Marvel has left are Emma Frost, Miss Sinister, Lady Hellbender & Satana.

>because he is widely accepted to be a sexual assaulter, possibly a rapist,
By irrational fucking psychotic hypocrite fucks who give a free pass to Bill Clinton (who has had VASTLY worse accused against him) because he is liberal.

>perverted
Perverse = unnatural.
There is nothing unnatural on any level about straight males being attracted to the adult female body in life or entertainment.

>edited out the foot
You think you're slick?

MsMarvel

I'm 100% ready for cheesecake to return.

If you don't like it. Don't read it.

"Thousand times"
"That is a very specific kinda predatory"
What the fuck does this mean?
Rapist don't fucking make casual small talk on the beach and you don't encounter "predators" on a daily basis enough to make for thousands.

Amen!

I'm an artist who has done plenty of cheesecake. I feel I have to tone it down just to get work, which saddens me.

An artist should never have to fear censorship. What times we live in! I only wish I made enough money to commission a few pieces.

Comics are getting worse by the day. The Witchblade reboot will never be as popular without the sexy.

Would you really have to? As far as I heard it's all cool, just present yourself professionally in portfolios and draw what they ask of you.
Your personal shit shouldn't really factor in.

Preach

I want to read and get some action, half naked warrior story

I buy Red Sonja, i would but that

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Witchblade is almost Tarot-level cheesecake. At least you could follow the fucking plot in Tarot though, and it had some good jokes.

Demons, monsters, ghosts, gigantic tits and ass, raping women, raping men, orgies, monster-girls, two adorable cats. What's not to love?

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Post some

Japan does it extremely well though, you know why?

They don't try and force it through their existing books; they don't take a young to adult male orientated book and try and make it for a female audience. Shojo anthology books outsell the entire big two on a weekly basis by far; and that's the 'Absolutely for women, aimed at women directly' stuff, not the more action orientated stuff which women also enjoy.

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It's no great stretch to say that the best artists drew cheesecake. Compare any Big Two artist working today with Dave Stevens. You'll see who comes up short!

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>Witchblade is almost Tarot-level cheesecake
Not really and even under Turner, the anatomy was VASTLY better.
>At least you could follow the fucking plot in Tarot though
What arc/run of Witchblade have you read?
The Ron Marz run is perfectly coherent and is more akin to the X-Files then anything else.

Even at it's cheesiest, Witchblade was miles beyond Tarot. Not that I don't enjoy both for their individual strengths.

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Meh, some user dumped Witchblade here daily for over half a week. It seemed like someone posted great images on a fanfic that took way too fucking long to type out and filled half of each page. Show don't tell.

And yeah the anatomy of Tarot gets fucked all the time, but it's funny and not pulp with a little sci-fi and a shit ton of unnecessary dialogue. I never understood the fascination with it.

>each thigh is larger than her whole torso
>even though I'm not a cop anymore
Those tubs of donuts and lifetime original movies hit hard?

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Our blessed hero.

Cho needs more work.

Oh yay retarded footfags get to jerk off, big victory amirite

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I love boobs.

Ditto

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All the outfits are too try hard and ugly

>Cho needs more work.
He just finished Skybourne's last issue.
Here is what has come out so far...
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Misty Fucking Knight!

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this argument is terrible. Japanese books are owned by the creators, who absolutely change to meet market demands. more so, japanese books don't run, unbroken, for 5 decades, like Superman has. they will run for a few years, then the creator will quit and do something else. furthermore, there are THOUSANDS of comics printed in Japan, not a hundred, or so, like in America. japanese readers have hundreds upon hundreds of options, at any given point in time.

ask any comic shop owner about his sales, and you will hear the same story: old comics sell consistently, new comics never sell. Marvel and DC know this. its one reason they change existing characters, rather than create new ones. if you fuckers would buy something other than the same crap you have been reading since you were 12, then there would be more diverse comics, without sacrificing the established characters.

you haven't been paying attention to the news, lately. google "Al Franken"

also, just because one side does it, does not mean its okay for the other side to do it. especially since one side constantly harps on "Traditional Family Values". anyway, if Bill were running today, there is not way in hell he would get nominated, let alone elected.