Is Sup Forums finally willing to admit its pretty bad?

Is Sup Forums finally willing to admit its pretty bad?

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How? Why?

I don't remember watching this movie, but I know my dad got me a poster of it when I was a kid and it was on my wall for years. I don't know if I really liked it and just forgot, or if he really liked it and wanted to buy himself a poster but felt ashamed.

Well I do like Oliver and Company more, but this movie is still good

As someone who never grew up with it, I thought it was pretty cute and charming. It has its boring points, but I wouldn't say it's bad. Just not one of the best, I can't believe how much merchandise Disney pedals with this movie still.

Personally, pic related is the superior "lost cat" movie, but I know people would disagree heavily with me. I just find it far more entertaining, and it has better songs.

Everybody wants to be a cat

Just watched pic related for the first time since I was very young. It surprisingly holds up. Lady is the cutest Disney animal of all time.

No way.
That scene with the old geezer just hobbling around? Classic animation right there.

Peddles not pedals

it's a product of its time

It sucks but it has Duchess.

I think you mean Black Cauldron OP

ould be great if not for katzensperg

it’s kino

>O'Malley willingly becomes a cuckold and raises Duchess's three kittens

It was way ahead of it's time.

Also Everybody Wants to be a Cat is one of the best disney songs

Duchess is ironically the cutest cat in the whole movie, and she's the adult. Gabor's voice works wonders.
>cutest Disney animal
That's Oliver you swine.

Literally no one is cuckold in this situation you shit for brains dumbass. O'Mailey found a mate, who was single. I want to fuck you with a dictionary until you learn what words mean.

not ba, It's just plain

The manga any good?

As a child I never liked any movie with talking animal protagonists. I guess it was me picking up that furry shit was shit before I knew it was a thing. Like I'd enjoy the human characters on a waifu level but not the animal characters.
Like when I learned that Oliver and Company and The Lion King were based on Oliver Twist and Hamlet I was upset we didn't have an animated version where they're humans.

From an artistic standpoint, it's really nice. The water color backgrounds mixed with the oil paints is a nice touch, along with Milt Kahl animating sequences, and the "sketchy" aesthetic that goes with it.
Yeah plot-wise, it's kind of safe and inoffensive, but this was back when Disney movies were meant to be watch for the value of the art, and not so much for the plot. I guess that philosophy changed somewhere in the 80s.

So? Even for it's era, Duchess is a pretty lackluster cat. I mean cats are rather athletic and can move fast and everything. Yet Duchess feels like a worthless human woman. She's off putting because of how useless she is for her species. Take Lady from Lady & Tramp. Sure she's an upper class dog, but she still growls, she still chases unwanted nuisances, she still defends her owners, etc. She still behaves like how you would expect of her species.

Duchess in no way reflects anything of her species. She's a cat only in design. And that makes her boring as hell. She's the cat that looks like a cat but isn't a cat. Miss Bianca is a much better character.

Not only this, but wasn't Duchess rich? So O Mailey wasn't wasting his resources on her kids.

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Are my eyes deceiving me, but did Duchess have normal feline paws and they suddenly transformed into human hands and then re-transform into regular feline paws?

It was okay. Iffy pacing and a weak story, but still a cute and okay movie.

The granny is downright retarded for not giving the money to the butler though, I don't see how he didn't deserve it more than the cats.

t. Furry who takes animal movies WAY too seriously.

Duchess' point was that she wanted to be refined and elegant like her owner, and actively encouraged her kids to stop behaving like animals.

>that scene where Berlioz shits in Duchess's mouth while Uncle Waldo creampies her and Thomas O'Malley kicks her in the kidneys until she pukes blood

I wish we'd go back to low stakes, simple stories like this again for a bit. Nowadays everything's gotta be epic.

she is a refined lady, a cat too but a lady

Funfact, it was originally supposed to have a villainous duo, featuring Edgar and his waifu.
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Agreed.I like the high stakes movies too, but they do get tiring after a while. I miss when Disney would occasionally just put out slice of life movies like Pooh or Lady and the Tramp. But the adventure and/or princess movies are the big moneymakers, and even more than that, they're the only movies John Lasseter has ever shown any interest in, so we're probably stuck with them for a while.

Cats act elegant like Duchess though. Yes there's also a lot of silly cats but there's a stigmata about cats being snobby for a reason.

It's amazing what you can slip by kids if you slip it into a musical sequence.

Is she for lewd?

>SHANGHAI HONG KONG EGG FU YUNG
>FORTUNE COOKIE ALWAYS WRONG

Is that a recycled scene by any chance?

What I miss?

I posted this when it came and out and I'll post it again

"this is a decent movie"

best part of movie desu

Just the ramblings of an autistic furry

it's a cat

mods don't know the Aristocrats joke

I () was replying to a different post than the others you quoted.
>that scene where Berlioz shits in Duchess's mouth while Uncle Waldo creampies her and Thomas O'Malley kicks her in the kidneys until she pukes blood

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No.
Duchess is for long pedigrees, sleeping
on velvet mats, and living on loving pats, naturalment! The aristocats!

How they would have to turn down the danger and violence dial if they were being Hamlet with humans. Actually, how would they have bowdlerized it?

A cat is fine too

They would have to turn down the danger and violence dial if they were adapting Hamlet with humans. Actually, how would they have bowdlerized it?

Well, for one thing, they wouldn't have slaughtered 95% of the named cast, Hamlet would end up king with his ghost dad smiling down on him. They'd probably also tone down the oedipal undertones. Probably no Ophelia suicide. I doubt they'd have their Hamlet callously sets two of his college friends to be executed. Less poison, less religious commentary, less wordplay, less philosophy. The play scene would probably be a musical number. Fortinbras would either be cut, or would be evil and working alongside Claudius. Hamlet would be a plucky underdog with Big Dreams™ instead of a paranoid, sociopathic lunatic. So, in short, I don't know why user would ever want this.

she is made for deep intense human male petting

I would fuck Asian stereotype cat.

Wouldn't we all

Did Raimi write this scene?

it was recently on tv and I saw part of it, after many years. What surprised me, is that I caught it airing because my parents were watching it excitedly for some time.

>implying there is a single male cat on the planet that is not a cuckold

The reason many litters look so diverse is because the mama usually has multiple baby daddies knocking her up at the same time, that is just how they roll man.

Nope. 7/10 okay tier. Top-notch songs, too. Uncle Waldo scene is GOAT and so is the Napoleon and Lafayette slapstick.

>better songs.
Billy Joel, mah nigga. Like Elton John, his songs lend themselves well to animation.

I know the term gets thrown around a lot, but it REALLY has an underrated soundtrack. Lots of talent behind it (Huey Lewis, Bette Midler, Billy Joel), very catchy songs that have gotten stuck in my head a lot of times.
I don't get it when people say the soundtrack is forgettable. But it's all subjective, so I can't really prove it one way or another.

What did he mean by this?

"I'm the chinese one."

I remember Bette Middler's song, but Huey Lewis was in the movie?

Where does this idea of Raimi being a racist stereotyper come from?

The sad opening number was him. He didn't voice a character.

cause it's always once upon a time in New York City

>The sad opening number
Oh... oh no... you just reminded me of it. Oliver getting soaked in the rain because no one picked him out of the box of free kittens is one of the most heart-crushing things I've ever seen in a movie. :(

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Every fucking time, my man.
Every. fucking. time.

That Scales and Arpeggios song is pretty good. Never actually saw the movie, though...but I KNOW there's a fine-ass horse in there.

Don't be a sicko, user.

Duchess is the only shamefully attractive character in this movie