Witchblade

New issue came out, let's see if the creative still hate the fact that they're working on a Witchblade comic

They probably still hate it

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>no sexy costume

they still hate it.

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But now she's strong and empowered and other bullshit buzzwords that have no meaning other than we ruined your book

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Witchblade without the sexiness and also trying to sell movie studios on the idea of a Witchblade movie

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I guess this mean they just say they are not going to deal with all previous backstory tying it with the Angelus/Darkness?

You'd think Silvestri would give up after 20 years of trying to get a Witchblade movie off the ground and failing each time

I believe there is an NBC show being developed (which is why the book got resurrected)

Considering how much they hate the old book, fuck no

He should try to get a Cyberforce movie going instead

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>TnA pose
>has small tits and no ass
what did they mean by this?

I think he was at one point. Or a cartoon. Some kind of adaptation

Didnt they also get rid of sexy Magdalena and replace her with a boy?

We want the Irish audience

If this is true Top Cow is run by brainless idiots.

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This looks lame. Michael Turner is rolling in his grave

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>can say fuck
>can show bloody murder
>can show a dick nor several tits
hmn

>"Pick a pejorative that isn't gendered!"
>"Bitch."

If they wanted to make the 'lady' seem like the badass, they've failed miserably.

Hey anyone rember that witchnlade fan comic Switch by Sejic is that ever coming back?

>Pick a pejorative that isn't gendered.

>Bitch.

Does this have any relation to Sara Pezzini?

So far, no. And as the witchblade is a generic cuff bracelet from the Renaissance faire, and is a shadowy tentacle porn nightmare instead of armor and blades, I doubt there will be any connection.

He considers it a finished project.

Only SJWs can make a strip club completely unsexy.

Since when did strippers have flat chests and wear granny panties? Did the cops go to a Trap club? And why do the Russians own a club that has Sushi and Sake?

When did Top Cow go SJW? They were always about ass and titties

A sad sign of the times. They probably don't want to be seen as sexist and misogynistic, so there goes any sex appeal. Or creative appeal for that matter.

It was okay.
It wasn't sexy, but it's a damn sight better than the old days in terms of writing and art (REALLY not saying much). I'm honestly getting more enjoyment reading these bitter comments about how the writer must be a Witchblade hating SJW and the series is RUINED because "where muh tiddies." Like fuck's sake.

No, it's because she's shown she knows absolutely nothing about the history of Witchblade, then tried to shift the blame on the old series as "it never had any female input". Let's just ignore the fact that Witchblade's first 40 odd issues were written by a woman, or has had a number of female artists, Get the fuck out of here with that shit

sauce?

>hate and ignorance are now synonyms
Stay mad, m8.
This book is mediocre, but you're overblowing things.

Is there really girls with flat chest in strip club?

Speaking from experience, yes.

I'll dump the interview that instigated all of this shit

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what about Switch? Did the second issue ever come out?

Really glad that they made the hardboiled detective a queer black woman. The really subtle metaphor about queer women of colour being the only people with the moral fortitude to save the US from authorities that have been corrupted by Russia almost went right over my head.

You know I get it. I really do. They're hungry for to get an adaptation because superheros are hot right now and they want to make Witchblade a little more serious It's hard to sell a superheroine whose magic armor covers less than a bikini.

But this was not the way to do it.

You could have kept her sexy. You could have given her a hot body. The Witchblade could have been a skin tight covering.

They aren't going to make it with this SJW attitude.

And honestly, isn't Darkness their best IP? Why the hell don't they just make a book about the Darkness-Angelus-Witchblade trio, all three characters in New York trying to make sense of an aeons old cosmic war waged by forces using them as pawns in the latest round?

They have the workings of a good universe but they just don't want to put the pieces together.

It wouldn't be the first time this happens to TopCow.

>And honestly, isn't Darkness their best IP? Why the hell don't they just make a book about the Darkness-Angelus-Witchblade trio, all three characters in New York trying to make sense of an aeons old cosmic war waged by forces using them as pawns in the latest round?
You mean re-do Marz's run?

Except make it not suck.

>The Darkness video game has one of the best stories in all of video games
>The comics its based on are absolute dog shit

FUCKING HOW?

>implying this wasn't ever the case

>talking shit about Marz's good run
The second one was terrible, but his first one was GOAT

the tv series did work without the blatant use of skin. It even took full embrace of the weirdness and fucked up timelines that this comic is trying and failing to make work. It's jumping all over but without an art style or writing chops to make it work. It just makes it extremely hard to follow.

Witchblade hasn't been TnA since less than half it's 190 issue run. Aphrodite, Velocity and Madame Mirage took over that It's not like they don't have TnA books now, look at Sunstone, that's full nudes and fucking in it, and they are doing a book about Swingers this year.

Alright so I went through this. Unlike many grognards, i'm not upset about the move away from TNA. I can totally see the witch blade armor as a sort of Guyver-esque thing. Nor do I mind the witchblade being a more modestly proportioned QT.

The problem is, just about everything about this besides the idea is half assed. The passing is a mess, it's rushed and yet somehow also fails to move quickly enough where it counts (we still haven't seen the fucking Witchblade). The dialogue is flat. The action and direction is awful, nothing flows and it just comes off as stilted and disconnected. The art-style is decent but nothing special. The plot, so far, is by the numbers and uninspired.

It's a clear amateur effort. There's no viv to it, nothing to suggest they're trying to relaunch a brand. Low energy and uninspired. 4/10 it's like i'm watching amateur theatre

>Mains

Sarah and Jackie are alright as characters. The host of the Darkness is a mafia don, the host of the Witchblade is a cop. It works.

Angelus needs some real help though to work as a character. Her host is either a cipher or a lesbian ballerina. She needs help as a character STAT.

Kenneth Irons as an immortal crime boss and Ian Nottingham work as antagonists. Just mix them in with the Order from the second video game.

The story should be part crime fiction part urban fantasy. Big power level stuff would be best implied or kept to the background. No time travel bullshit and no resetting the world.

Highlander would honestly be sort of how I would handle it. A magical war fought in the shadows throughout the history of man is having the final round in New York City.

>Aphrodite 13

Hey she got a heroclix to!

I miss Indy clix. Judge Dredd and Hellboy made it worth it, even if they were drowned in a sea of lame 90's TnA characters.

We got OS Star Trek clix and Ninja Turtles. Maybe one day we'll get a new Indy set? Or just a Hellboy and Usagi Yojimbo set.

>Darkness their best IP
Witchblade always sold more. More people just know of The Darkness and Jackie because of the video game, but Witchblade sold higher, had more success in finding brand new talented artists, had a tv show, a manga and an anime adaption. It was always Top Cows flagship title.

It's a fucking shame they threw out all the lore, Nottingham and Irons were pretty instrumental in giving the otherworldly foundation and creepiness that it launched on.

The Darkness, cyber force and Aphrodite are being launched this year but all I know is that Aphrodite is not connected and the artist they have does a lot of cheesecake and is written by Hawkins. So here's hoping for Aphrodite to be good.

those are my complaints too. I heard good things about the writer on Coffin Hill but this is garbage. The art is good but it's like the two are talking past each other, they don't seem to understand what each other is doing at all. They either can't communicate well or are just incapable of understanding each other

>It was always Top Cows flagship title

Back in its heyday yeah. But nowadays because of the games having really, shockingly good writing Darkness is undeniably their golden boy.

>Shame they threw out all the lore

This Witchblade reboot is like a chicken running with its head cut off. The writer has no fucking idea what she's doing or where she's going to take the story and is just writing issue to issue making it up as she goes along.

>The writer has no fucking idea what she's doing or where she's going to take the story and is just writing issue to issue making it up as she goes along.

The pacing makes that clearly obvious. She should have been attacked by a monster by issue #2. Hell it should have been the start of Issue #2, and no bullshit cut away. Instead she's focusing on this background plot of the abusive husband and some conspiracy

>roma
Why do americans think that roma are some kind of romantic rogues?

Various pop culture but primarily Brad Pitt in Snatch and Esmeralda in The Hunchback of Notre Dame

No, i'm serious. The complete lack of them over here, plus the only fiction we get of them being positive portrayals, means people are mystified about how euros can treat the charming and swarthy travellers so badly. Not realizing how... christ I don't even have a word for how aweful Gyppos are. They put "niggardly" or "niggerish" to shame

Why couldn't they just continue Switch? This is awful.

Because no one bought Switch

I thought it was cancelled because Sejic hurt his shoulder and couldn't draw/write for three months.

You tell me
>167 164 Switch 1 $3.99 Image 11,442
>235 239 Switch 2 $3.99 Image 6,788
>254 250 Switch 3 $3.99 Image 6,119
>276 287 Switch 4 $3.99 Image 5,568

It's too bad he didn't do it after Sunstone, he would have easily pulled in enough to keep it going then.

Switch was just last year. Sunstone's been coming out for like 5 years now.

Every book of his that isn't Sunstone has failed. Remember Death Vigil?

huh, I thought it came out before Death Virgil for some reason...

I didn't realize Sunstone started that long ago, I only really started hearing a lot about it the past couple of years.

You're probably thinking of Ravine. That tanked too

Lesbian BDSM Man is working for the big boys at DC now anyway, he doesn't need Top Cow

super mad about that one. I loved that one so much

He's literally doing another BDSM book for Top Cow again

>we have a unique opportunity to offer a modern feminist take on the book
>female creative teams are unfortunately in the minority right now in comics
The next decade is going to be painful.

The tits and ass weren't for a good long while even in the old continuity. I think around before Daniele became the Witchblade they started the whole fullbody armor thing.

At leats she looks like a woman, so there is that.

>and is a shadowy tentacle porn nightmare instead of armor and blades
for now anyway

This a terrible, boring fucking cover.

Nah, I think we're near the end. Nobody buys this stuff.

I am seeing a definitive market pushback that will, eventually, result in the suits reversing many of these things. The shame is that female and minority creators who ACTUALLY HAVE TALENT are going to get lumped in with the SJW equality hires and lose opportunities because of all these carpet baggers

Just gonna say it but Witchblade was a niche curiosity because of the blatant cheesecake material, like Spawn with more boobs basically. Remove the edge and remove the boobs and what is left? Absolutely nothing like this comic shows. Witchblade is just "strong woman in metal armor" now, with no unique ideas or qualities whatsoever.

Only way to salvage this now is just go absolutely bonkers with it, turn the violence- and smut levels to the same as Devilman and people might get interested again. Instead of sleazy outfits make the heroes go completely naked. Instead of evil misogynists and lame possessed thugs, go full Hellraiser body-horror with that shit.

RIP Top Cow. I will miss the t & a and all those great artists that they used to have