Spanish newspaper: Ferdinand is 'manipulative' and 'deceitful'

>kids who watch this movie will become anti-bullfighting
>a bull that doesn't want to fight goes against nature

elpais.com/cultura/2018/01/05/el_toro_por_los_cuernos/1515153278_991232.html

Just when I thought there wasn't anything left for people to be offended by.

>Upset that a movie depicts a sport where your force an animal to fight just so you can murder it as bad

Nice projecting user.

? Is that a thing in Spain? People crying that there's an unjust war on bullfighting? This reads like a Spanish Kelly comic.

>while you get offended by bullfighting
Pottery.

Bullfighting is like NASCAR: It's only entertaining when it goes wrong.

Do Spaniards actually pretend that bullfighting is somehow in any way natural to the bull? I figured they all just knew how it worked but didn’t care.

Sounds like this movie.

It's hardly ever a fair fight anyways, they drug the bull and stick it with swords multiple times to weaken/disorient it.

matador defense force detected

I think most Spaniards find it distasteful.

I mean, it's pretty natural for a bull to attack someone that's cornering and stabbing him with gay swords, the weird thing is pretending that's the sole reason why bulls exist.

That one was a trip. I don’t know what the fuck I expected from that premise but it still somehow weirded me out. I think it was because the tone was so off compared to the first movie.

bullfighting is something that they have had for centuries, no matter how barbaric it seems it's pert of their culture and something most have grown up with.

>a bull that doesn't want to fight goes against nature
???

I'm a meat-eater and even I admit bullfighting is fucked up and outdated. At least when they kill cows for meat they don't do it in front of a live audience for entertainment.

They literally torture the bull to make it fight, it's not "natural". And even if it was it would still be a dick move.

If you're not a turbo-vegan you're a gigantic hypocrite for being against bullfighting

That’s what I mean. It’s not exactly a well kept secret. I dunno how anybody can know that and somehow still say “this comes naturally to the bull, it’s perfectly normal and justified.” I always figured the argument in favor of bull fighting was just “who fucking cares? It’s a bull.”

Not every cultural practice deserves to persist. Keep the bullfighting in a museum.

Theres a difference between raising an animal to be eaten and raising an animal to be drugged up and stabbed to death for entertainment.

There's a simple way to fix bullfighting: make the matador fight unarmed and unaided, naked even. Let's see if he's so brave still.

The beef industry needs go first for this claim to make a lick of sense
>WWWAAAAHHH THEY KILL ONE BULL PUBLICLY THAT'S SO EVIL-- wuh? Oh, yea I'll take the Rib-Eye medium rare

>eat responsibly sourced meat that has been slaughtered humanely

>lol lets fight a cow and stab it a bunch

What a fucking moron, I suppose you like dog fighting too?

I'm very much anti-bullfighting because it's not fair to the bull. He can't win.

If the bull gores the matador, they kill the bull? Fuck that, he earned his freedom. Now Outworld belongs to him.

Spaniards are faggots. Just look at how they bully and abuse Catalonians

Surely you can see the difference between killing an animal for food and killing an animal because your great great grandpa used to kill animals for fun.

>retarded vegetarian detected
Oh, so your opinion dosen't matter

Bull fighting is a really fucked up """"""sport"""""" though

I get that. I still don’t get how it’s “natural.” It’s like saying “don’t worry honey, the sheep LIKE getting slaughtered.” Everyone knows they don’t. We eat lamb anyway because we value the meat more than how the lamb feels about the matter.

Not the user you're talking to but, I agree with the point you just typed out.
However, you eat meat don't you?

Chinese women used to have to cripple themselves via foot binding.
Doing something stupid a million times doesn't make it any less stupid.

Humane slaughter is a myth

Just because you ate the animal when it died doesn't mean you didn't kill it for fun.
You could eat something that didn't kill the animal. The only reason you killed it was because you'd enjoy the product more.
It's morally the same as killing something for fun.

Not really at all. We very clearly can feed ourselves sans animals, the meat is just for our pleasure, like the bull is for our entertainment. This doesn't even take into account how horrible animals raised to be eaten are treated.
I plow cheeseburgers by the way.

>All this implication, and nowhere to hold it
Dirty Spaniards detected

>Humane slaughter
Gotta love that doublespeak

>Humane slaughter is a myth

Lol you're retarded, go eat more soy beans from a plantation that deforested more acres of land and killed wild animals.

Spotted the numale soyboy cuck

Even with this logic you're still wrong.

If I murder my neighbor to steal his valuables, that's wrong, but it would still be worse if I tied him to a chair and tortured him for an hour before killing him.

You described the death of an animal as murder, it obviously morally offends you.

it's their culture

let them do what they want

they are not like killing people

The story is old as fuck, why would it matter now.

>Killing an animal in order to eat is the same as killing an animal because sport

>We very clearly can feed ourselves sans animals
We can feed ourselves through IVs, doesn't mean we're going to do it.

>he doesn't kill his own meat
>he thinks shooting an animal is the same as drugging it and stabbing it slowly to death
Yeah that's like saying if you eat meat you're a hypocrite for thinking dogfighting is inhumane.
You dumb.

Do you think the animals being killed for meat aren't tortured before their death? How naive are you?
Morally speaking, killing an animal for fun, and eating a head of lettuce is exactly the same as killing an animal and eating it. They're both inexcusable.

Well, the bull does kill somebody, sometimes.

Isnt bullfighting banned in spain

You're right user, bullfighting is much more moral than the meat industry

I don't think you understand what that word means.

Only white people customs need to go. Arab and African customs can stay. Gotcha.

Bullfighting is dope.

>Do you think the animals being killed for meat aren't tortured before their death? How naive are you?

They literally are not, you have just been brainwashed by vegan activists with Rotten.com tier propaganda. Maybe if you ate some meat your brain wouldn't be so dumb and mushy.

>veggiepedros
Now I've seen everything.

>Calling it what it is means I'm offended

It's literally a man fighting a drugged up animal with the intent of killing it for sport. That's not being offended, that's pointing out what it is.

No. Europe as a whole outside of the UK is pretty shit towards animals.

Don't kid yourself Jimmy, if a cow ever got the chance he'd eat you and everyone you cared about!

Wow this thread sure is something

So it's murder when you don't like it but it's just farming when you eat it, got it. Either shit or get off the pot you fucking faggot.

>Spanish
>white

It's not like there isn't video evidence of the mistreatment of animals before they're slaughtered user. Even most meat-eaters agree that it's fucked up

a winning surviving bull (they often die from wounds during the fight, and dont live long after, though attempts are made to keep them alive) is sent out to pasture and put to stag, and they keep the bloodline going as much as they can
the only exception is if a bull wins by killing the matador, which makes its whole bloodline killed

also, one might argue that bulls raised for bullfighting are treated better than a vast majority of american cattle for food, and they trade that better average life quality, for a 20 minute fight a few years later

Blood sport's very popular in the darker regions of the world.

You can call it whatever you want. One is the intent of survival, one is the intent of not being bored.

Except I'm not. I made a nice meat sauce for a baked ziti this very evening. I just think that hypocrites should eat shit.

This is like saying gladiators should have been glad because they weren't common slaves. They still were slaves.

No, one is so it tastes good when you eat it, the other is to avoid boredom. We definitively passed the point of "the intent of survival" close to 200 years ago.

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Gladiators liked their lives enough that Spartacus was really the only gladiator that rebelled, and even then mostly to demand better living conditions, not freedom.

>muh shock videos

I literally just told you that your Rotten.com vids are fucking shit.
You are in essence acting as stupid as the people who see Mexican cartels killing people and condemning all Mexicans for it or Isis videos and thinking all Muslims support it.

You have bought into propaganda.

This makes more sense if you know some Japanese.

>Opposing bullfighting, which literally every country except Spain condemns as inhumane, is liberal lies now
Sup Forums has gotten really weird lately

>Myriad groups on an international scale forming an industry should budge before a few practicing in a country do. It's only sensible.
Veganism, part of a balanced low IQ build.

nah, let him keep his fancy costume and sword, just put in a bull at 100% no damage and let him see it coming. see how long the matadors last.

fucking white left crying about muh poor animuls

What?

Nobody said anything even remotely close to that.

That is one thing white people can fucking lord over all the other races unquestionably, white people care better for animals and started the environmental movement.

>M-Muh culture
Spain is full of barbarians. Probably got it form all those Moors who invaded and raped their women.
They torture animals for fun and sport then act all upset when retards get gored by bulls. It's fucking stupid.

If you don't have the edgiest opinions about any subject you're a [meme word] to the retards in here. Just ignore any post with that kind of memery.

Fun fact: If the animal is too stressed when it dies the meat is hard as fuck. Meat slaughtered in my farm was unchewable even if the cow is not old. I don't want to know what happens there. My point: that bull will not be tasty.

You guys just suck at slaughtering?

>force
>He's never seen a bull before

See of course you'd need it to be a vegan you fucking hypocrite, I'm a fat american who eats meat pretty much every day, I just don't need to be a fucking retard virtue signaling on bull fighting while I eat factory farmed meat.

the utilitarian benefit of the meat industry is nutrition and animal protein for people to eat (that you can't get through plants).

what is the utilitarian benefit of bull fighting other than entertainment in a society drowning in so many sports, video games, pornography, comics, etc?

>What is drugging and stabbing before hand, then tossing a man with a blade in an arena with you

>Göring was a professed animal lover and conservationist,[5] who, on instructions from Hitler, committed Germans who violated Nazi animal welfare laws to concentration camps. In his private diaries, Nazi Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels described Hitler as a vegetarian whose hatred of the Jewish religion in large part stemmed from the ethical distinction this faith drew between the value of humans and the value of other animals; Goebbels also mentions that Hitler planned to ban slaughterhouses in the German Reich following the conclusion of World War II.[6]

hol up so you be sayin' that Hitler was a good boy all along???

Not that user, but have you ever been near an animal being killed in real life? It's not exactly pleasant or "humane".

No, user, you're mistaken. Bulls come from the valleys in order to die in their natural habitat. It's an ancient bull tradition

How does the bull win from not killing the matador? Count out? Outside interference? Escaping the cage? Pinfall or submission?

Surely it can't be through DQ because the use of weapons denotes a hardcore match.

What I mean is that the animal has to die as relaxed as it can be or at least die quickly or the meat will not be tender.

No I understand that, but you said that the meat that came from your farm was always unchewable, makes it sound like your farm wasn't very good at slaughtering animals while keeping them relaxed

Gladiators were the superstars of the roman world, and would sell themselves into slavory and when they finished their contract they'd make fucking bank. Also it was really rare for them to be over trained to the point where they'd ruin their bodies or die in a fight. Finally being a slave in roman empire was way different than being a slave in the americas.

>I'm a fat american who eats meat pretty much every day

A) no you arn't

B) you're (pretending) to be retarded to understand the concept we eat meat but don't allow cruelty to animals, like dog fighting. Because your retarded pea-brain thinks meat is murder.

This is true on small farms with real animals, but doesn't apply to large slaughterhouses full of hormone-pumped fatbeasts. The factory farming industry likes to repeat this one because the farmers back them up on it, but their animals are so unnaturally fatty that the living conditions don't really matter.

This is the same reason European dairy trounces the same American products. Our cows aren't living natural lives and produce weird milk as a result.

>I'm a fat american
Class built in Int debuff, and you natural rolled the proposal of some dumbass shit.

>MUH UTILITARIANISM
Ok, so lets kill off all the third worlders and fix the population crisis!
Either bulls/animals deserve to be treated well or they don't, again, shit or get off the pot.

Look up the concept of "mu".

they never kept them relaxed, I think they chase it and kill it. I go there twice a year I don't want to know how they do it.

It was a pun on moot you dummy.

Its a moo(t) point
It doesn't matter, its moo(t)