Azulon was Fire Lord for 75 years of the hundred years war yet we know nothing about his life...

Azulon was Fire Lord for 75 years of the hundred years war yet we know nothing about his life. When is he going to get a comic?

They'll just reduce him to a homo hater. Every page will be "Gays! REEEEE!" and you know it.

He spent 75 years doing fuckall and not ending the war, his life isn't worth exploring.

Do you really want one in this day and age

>spend 75 years doing all the heavy lifting
>when you finally get the other nations on the verge of defeat you die and your son gets all the glory.

Wasn't he the one that turned the Fire Nation into a technological industrial powerhouse?

There's literally no way of knowing at this point. Sozin started the war, and the fire nation already seemed to be more technologically advance than everyone else at that point, and Ozai was constantly trotting out new technological marvels to fuck up the earth nation with but for all we know, Azulon might have just been holding them back from winning the war completely the whole time.

I would be down. No gay ass spirit or mecha bullshit gimics. Just gold old fashioned bending and combat

I find it hilarious Fire Lord Azulon was voiced by the late Walker Edmindston (Inferno in Transformers G1).

He was Fire Lord when Lu Ten died and Iroh failed to take Ba Sing Se
He was probably in charge during the Southern Water Tribe raids when they were taking all of the Waterbenders
He was probably in charge when the Southern Raiders killed Katara and Sokka's mother.

Hard to say if he was in charge when the Mechanist started building weapons for the Fire Nation at the Northern Air Temple

Ozai was Fire Lord for 10 years at best. Azulon made most of the work, surely.

The wiki says that Azulon died 5 years before the beginning of the series

>Be a competent public functionary for 75 years.

>People only remember the empire as that thing your overreaching father and fucking wacko younger son ruined.

Ozai will just become the famous guy on the history books, and Azulon will be that guy that the specialist like to say "ACTUALLY it was Azulon who did most of the work, I wish we could study his period more, instead we just focus in Ozai this, Ozai that".

>azulon was waiting for the avatar to return so he could stop the war and bring the world to balance
>instead he died waiting and his piece of shit son took over
>azulon was a hero this whole time

That would have been Iroh. Azulon was probably worse than Ozai, with that "you have to kill your son" bit.

He seemed to at least LIKE Iroh enough to get mad at his comment. Actualy, now that I think about it, a good chunk of the resentment and psyche of Ozai was for being the unfavorite son.


Does this reminds you of anyone?

tfw we'll never get to see the timeline where Iroh got the job instead of Ozai, smashed the remaining military and industry of the other nations and then roped them into a "Peace Treaty" where they got to keep their measley territory but were utterly economically dominated by the Fire Nation who got to keep military bases on their land and raise their Avatars and marry their royalty.

I have heard it said that due to Nickelodeon censorship practices, he had to say "You will see what it's like to LOSE your son." rather than "You will see what it's like to have your son killed." or something similar, meaning that Azulon could very well have just taken Zuko away from Ozai and given him to Iroh to be his heir, thus cutting Ozai out of the line of succession forever.

>granddad was mean to dad so dad was mean to you

Whoa, it's like bullies are only bullies because they were bullied too. This PSA brought to you by the US government.

is Iroh's wife/baby mama ever mentioned at all?

What? Azula literaly says that her grandpa told Ozai to kill his own son.

More like Ozai saw a bit of himself in Azula, and abuse in families is actualy ciclical.

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>What? Azula literaly says that her grandpa told Ozai to kill his own son.

Are you retarded?

"Azula ALWAYS LIES."

I remember an interview with Mike and Bryan where the interviewer asks them about Sozin's age since Zuko Alone clearly says he only ruled for 23 years at his funeral and they where positively sure the episode said 75 and even told the guy to rewatch the episode.
Not sure how that important detail slipped by the writing team.

Do you want him to be gay too?

Azulon was probably bitter because his dad was gay for Roku and didn't pay attention to him growing up

It's a shame the most we'll ever get into Iroh's backstory is Rufftoon's deviantart page.

>Zuko's great grandfather was Roku
>Roku only had 1 child a daughter who was Ursa's mother
>Roku's daughter was a somewhere between 14-25 when he died
>Aang was born shortly after he died
>Ursa is maybe in her 40's during AtlA
>112 years between Roku's death and show proper
Exactly how old was Ursa's mom when Ursa was born?
This doesn't add up

Wait 75 years?

That’s all he accomplished in 75 years?

What the fuck were the soldiers doing crawling on their bellies to Ba Sing Se?
It wasn’t a Cold War how the fuck did they even exist in a state of war that long? Why even call it a war if no one is invading?

I think most of his reign was spent fighting for control over the Northwestern shelf of the Earth Kingdom. Securing a warpath to Ba Sing Se. Unless they invaded from the Eastern Sea.

Also I don't think he was Firelord for 75 years.

War is expensive and they had just wiped out an entire civilization and were making good progress on destroying the water tribes as well, and had managed to anex much of the earth kingdom, by the time Ozai took over only Ba sing se and a few earth kingdom city states here and there were left. Keep in mind the earth kingdom is the size of pretty much every landmass on earth put together.
You've heard the expression "never fight a land war in asia"? well the fire nation was fighting a land war in pangea.

And yet look who got poison'd.

He was homophobic, therefore he was evil incarnate.

Get into the robot, Ozai.

Sozin's reign saw the end of the Air Nomads and the hurt for the few remaining stragglers. With the establishment of the Fire Nation's first colony on the continent.
Azulon's reign saw them pressing further inland reaching and failing to capture Ba Sing Se. Also the beginning of the Fire Nation's raids against the Southern Water Tribe.
Ozai's reign saw the failed invasion of the Northern Water Tribe and the capture of Omashu and Ba Sing Se.

Your entire post is exactly why Avatar is so flawed.

Yeah, but Iroh was fucking awesome. Why wouldn't he be anyone's favorite son?

>Azulon's reign was marked by an increased efficiency in the Fire Nation war machine and massive territorial conquests; his leadership in several Earth Kingdom campaigns won him great fame as a general. He was also responsible for the destruction of the Southern Water Tribe, which was nearly annihilated under his orders
>Born shortly after the beginning of the Hundred Year War, Azulon was a frightening man who demanded perfection. He was a firebending prodigy since childhood, and as prince, led the Fire Nation to victory in many glorious military campaigns, including the conquest of the Hu Xin Provinces and the Battle of Garsai. Azulon assumed the title of Fire Lord at age twenty, following the death of his father, and continued to lead his country in the war

The issue with that fought is that Azulon actually did most of the relevant conquering and has some of the most important monuments(including the Gates of Azulon, which are both a monument to his glory and a defensive measure for the capital).

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He was thanks to the retarded timeline in order to make a hundred year war happen and so Sozin and Roku could be childhood friends.

Sozin was 70 when Roku died, 12 years later the comet came and he died when he was like a hundred.

That leaves Ozai becoming Fire Lord about 8 years before the comet comes back.

Sozin was 82 when he had his firstborn sorn.

Elizabeth II has been Queen for 65 years. So I really don't know what has your panties in a knot.

Where does it say that?

They kinda screwed stuff up in terms of the Fire Lord timeline.

Azulon ruled until 5 years before the show started.
Since Sozin dies 20 years after the war begins(at 102), that makes his rule 75 years.
However, when we first have his reign mentioned in show:
>Fire Sage: Azulon, Fire Lord to our nation for 23 years
Which would mean Sozin somehow lived until 154.

Well Azula did say he was ancient and Kyoshi lived to 230.

>wanting comics about non-progessive gayhating old white male bigots
Um, no sweetie.

Wasn't that a retcon in order for a timeline to make sense?

It completely went over my head when I was younger that Zuko's mother Lady Macbethed him.

Lets not forget Bumi was 112. Avatar geezers can live pretty long. Its biblical tier

What did you think happened?

I vaguely remember thinking that she was volunteering to die in Zuko's place before Ozai ended up making his move to usurp the throne himself, and ended up banishing her instead. Or something.

It's been a while.

they already did, user

Have to maintain your newly conquered territories and expanding empire, and it's clear they were planning on pushing one last time with all they had into the city. Plus the Earth Kingdom is fucking huge, to put into perspective Germany ran into trouble in Western Russia after just 2 years, imagine trying that with a country that dwarfs Russia.

His tapestry looks pretty plain

>Kyoshi lived to 230.
That's only because Byrke forgot about Kuruk

Was Azulon the one who hunted down the Dragons?

It sort of makes an odd sense that an earthbender Avatar could live that long though, considering a regular earthbender lived to 112 and was still fit as a fiddle

Going by I'd say it was Azulon, since he's standing (trampling, if you will) on a Dragon. That does, granted, look like a turtle kind of.

>During his time as Fire Lord, Sozin began the tradition throughout the Fire Nation of hunting dragons as the ultimate sport. Anyone who managed to slay a dragon earned the honorary title of "Dragon" and their talents as firebenders would become legendary.
They kept being hunted down under Azulon, but no, it was Sozin.

Azulon's portrait has him standing triumphant on the world turtle. fit for a conqueror

Honestly Ursa sacrificing herself and then Ozai killing Azulon when he was distracted is a better story than Ursa poisoning Azulon and then running away.

The official story will of course be that Azulon died of old age but in first scenario Ozai comes off as a hero who tried to save his wife from his insane father, while in the second scenario Ozai's wife poisoning a Fire Lord and then disappearing doesn't look good at all.

>learn firebending from dragons
>keep them as pets
>lulz lets hunt them to extinction
I know the fire nation is suppose to be lolevil but come on.

>Azulon was Fire Lord for 75 years
??
>Azulon. Fire Lord to our nation for twenty-three years. You were our fearless leader in the Battle of Garsai. Our matchless conqueror of the Hu Xin Provinces. You were father of Iroh, father of Ozai, husband of Ilah, now passed. Grandfather of Lu Ten, now passed. Grandfather of Zuko, and Azula. We lay you to rest.
-Zuko Alone

I think the official story is he died in his sleep or something, and the Fire Nation is too indoctrinated to question why Ozai's wife disappeared on the same day.

It could have been done either way really. But I guess the fire nation supported the monarchy and Azulon for long enough that it would have been difficult for Ozai to win support after publicly killing him. (Not that it took long for people to accept Zuko after his usurping in the end, but whatever)

Plus Ursa straight up murdering the fire lord herself fits that foreshadowing of her talking to Zuko about how the mother duck would do anything to stop someone that threatened its baby.

>Post Interview note from Bryan "I checked the timeline, and without giving too much away, here's a breakdown: Sozin actually ruled for about 20 years after he started the war, so he was about 82 when he started the war. Azulon (born shortly after the comet came) ruled for about 75 years and died at the age of 95. Ozai has ruled for only 5 years. Those are the main milestones."

So than I guess
>Azulon. Fire Lord to our nation for twenty-three years.
Was just a blatant mistake eh?

Zuko won the throne from Azula fair and square when she descended into madness. They would have been happy to serve a proper person rather than her. Ozai was taken out of the picture by Aang which was separate and the whole point of what Iroh said.

Why keep the monarchy at all?

The Fire Nation didn't lose the war in a traditional sense. They were kicking the shit out of the rest of the world for a hundred years and then they had a coup and decided to stop the war.

This should have some huge ramifications. Politics wise Zuko would have his work cut out for him, you could write countless political thrillers on the shit Zuko would have to deal with everyday. Also the Fire Nation has the biggest economy in the world and it would still be that way by the time of LoK.
Because they're Japan.

Not to mention balancing the demands for concessions from the other nations.

The fact that we know that Azulon was born after the extermination of the air nomads and we know how old Sozin was at the time from knowing both how old he was when he became fire lord and how long it was when the air genocide happened.

While we're at it we also know that Kyoshi aparently lived for over 200 years because Bryke couldn't do math and we also know that the avatar couldn't have possibly lived "thousands of lifetimes" because the avatar has only been a thing for 10,000 years.

That always bothered me. How Zuko lived to see old age is a miracle. You have a society that spent a hundred years being brainwashed with nationalistic zeal and then the prince comes back and turns their nation into apologists. I mean how many noble families do you think he pissed off?

All of them.

>This should have some huge ramifications. Politics wise Zuko would have his work cut out for him, you could write countless political thrillers on the shit Zuko would have to deal with everyday.
This is one of the few things the comics did that I liked,They made it clear that Zuko was incredibly unpopular among the people of the fire nation, was dodging assassinations on an almost daily basis had to deal with multiple attempted coups and wasn't liked by the rest of the world either, if it wasn't for Aang and the Kyoshi warriors he would have been dead many times over.

I think there was a subplot in the comics with Mai dealing with a group headed by her father that wanted to take out Zuko and put Ozai back on the throne.

It makes no sense that the balance of power between the four nation was so fucked beyond recognition at that point that another conflict didn't spark immediately afterwards.

The Fire Nation was lucky the Earth Kingdom was both war weary and the Earth King wasn't vengeful. In reality someone like Kuvira would have popped up soon after the war.

The situation in the Earth Kingdom is a different matter entirely. The Earth King would be an ally of peace but I don't think he could realistically maintain order without the Dai Li. Remember he was just a figure head who now has all the power and no idea how to use it.

I mean...he could have brought back Long Feng but under watch so he didn't overstep his bounds to help him run the nation.

The Earth Kingdom or Earth Empire trying to start a war with the Fire Nation is like Warlord China or Mao's China trying to start a war with Japan. It wouldn't end good for them.

I've thought of that as well, maybe not Long Feng specifically but someone with experience to take over negotiations with the Fire Nation.

The simplest answer would have been for Sozin to have been Zuko's great- or great-great-grandfather. Requiring it be three generations ago was a mistake.

That or they should have just embraced the idea that people can live extremely long times in the Avatar universe and just made Azulon about the same age as Bumi.

In China '10,000 years' is basically a way of saying 'since time immemorial', rather than referring to an actual number of years.
I may be giving the writers too much credit here, but given how much the show was inspired by East Asian shit this may have been intentional.

>It makes no sense that the balance of power between the four nation was so fucked beyond recognition at that point that another conflict didn't spark immediately afterwards.


It happened in the comcis. Aang stepped in.

Also his name is fucking Azulon so clearly Azula being a bitch comes from somewhere.

No. Pretend she died in childbirth so his backstory is even more tragic.

On the other hand the show was created by morons who just wanted some magic kung-fu

Yeah but Ozai was literally hitler and did everything wrong.

No but there's this.

Would a comic even sell at this point? Is anyone still reading aangs comics? What about the gay korra comics? Is that even still going?

More avatar shit is a bad idea. The original series was great and doesn't need anything else.. No more shitty sequels or prequels or reboots.

It's ruined enough as it is.

Do you ever wonder why no one empire has ever controlled the entirety of the planet?

>why no one empire has ever controlled the entirety of the planet?
the jews and their evil schemes stopping us from progress?

Yes. You worked it out. The Order of the White Lotus stopped it.

Sozin did nothing wrong!

the comics are far worse than the series, so I hope never

Why do you think they were also the designated homophobe nation?

>aang is roku's reincarnation
>roku is zuko's great-grandfather
>ergo aang is zuko's great-gandfather

They did lose the war since they didn't achieve their goal of complete conquest of Earth Kingdom territory and had to give back all of their former colonies.