What's the moral of this film?

What's the moral of this film?

That if you're ugly the best you can hope for from society is that they'll grudgingly Not-Hate you?

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Did you even watch the movie?
>Now here is a riddle to guess if you can, sing the bells of Notre Dame
>What makes a monster and what makes a man?

Not every girl who's nice to you wants to fuck you

Just because a man is not a monster inside does not mean he is not a monster outside.

He said "WHO is the monster and WHO is the man?"

In the reprise it's "what"

Honestly, it's kind of true.

That you should be happy you didn't realize that everyone around you is just as ugly on the inside as you are on the outside so you kill yourself because your waifu is dead like the book/musical

He even gets cucked whilst in the same room.

>cucked

Requires that he had her in the first place. You can't cuck a man with a girl he never had in the first place.

Fuck gypsies.

That's the idea

>tfw no villain song has yet to top Hellfire
Why is it so good?
youtube.com/watch?v=U3NoDEu7kpg&t=57s

Almost no one on Sup Forums knows what cuck means.

Because it's easy to understand Frollo, even if he is completely prideful and thinks his shit don't stink.

That is something ugly kids should be taught

there's a scene where he prepares a meal for frollo right? i remember it looking like good cartoon food, is it up on youtube?

Holy fuck how can all of you be so dense. The moral is that Frolo literally was abusing his power while the hunch had a golden heart.
It's a kids movie, how could anyone miss the point?

What reward does a golden heart deserve?

Gypsy pussy

If so, why doesn't Quasi get that at the end? Unless we're saying Quasi doesn't have a golden heart.

uh it was like cheese and grapes i think

the movie ends with quasi being able to leave the tower and everyone accepting and celebrating him. he still got a good ending even if he didn't get the girl.

I want to fuck the goat.

That's not a moral you idiot.

>All these people not realizing that Phobeus got Esmeralda because he saw and treated her like a person, unlike both Quasi and Frollo, and that the difference between the two is that Quasi realized this and was able to let her go

Also niceness aside would y'all wanna date the middle-age equivalent of a NEET?

How can you let go of someone you never had in the first place?

Frollo couldn't let her go, and ended up trying to burn half of Paris. It's the metaphorical "letting go".

Quasi never had the power of Frollo. If Quasi hadn't "let go" what trouble would come of it? Phebs could easily strike down Quasi if it came to violence.

The moral of the film is the good looking guy get the good looking girl and ugly people are only allowed to enjoy doing the hard work.

Phoebus had a heart of gold too and he wasn't fat short and disfigured like Quasi
It's not really hard to understand

The point is that Quasi was a better person than Frollo.

>Heart of gold
>Soldier

Murders can't have hearts of gold

Quasi also comes with a heap load of mental issues too.

I dunno', Esmeralda isn't a bad person because she's not attracted to someone who winces when exposed to sunlight.

The point I'm trying to make is that there was no "letting go" for Quasi because he never had the bitch and he never had the power to claim her.

Frollo, though he never had the bitch, did have the power to claim her, so it makes sense that he would have to "let go" of her if he wished to be a good person.

you sound just as retarded as those "if you kill a villain your just as bad as them" fags. soldiers in the middle ages were crucial to defending the kingdom.

considering he turned away from frollo and nearly died for it, and also refused to arrest esmeralda, and also saved both her and quasi he's a good dude

That Quasi didn't have power didn't matter. It was that he was able to choose Esmeralda's happiness over his own and not be bitter about it. That he's able to put someone else's choices above his own desires.

>That he's able to put someone else's choices above his own desires.

That's love, isn't it?

Is this the only Disney film to admit that Love can be both True and Unrequited?

idk what the moral is..."if you're ugly, at least be useful. also, forget about da pussi".
it's like beauty and the beast, only with 0 pay-off and while that movie is fun and has great songs and this movie kinda sucks and has 1 good song.

beginning of the end of disney just literally copying broadway. and frankly, it needed to end.

>has 1 good song.

Hellfire or Out There?

Either way, you're fucking wrong, because both are perfect.

what exactly was the moral of beauty and the beast anyway? stockholm syndrome?
the beast turns into a pretty boy in the end

>reward
Not really how morals work.

I think what you were looking for in a loaded OP would be more along the lines of
>what was the message.
That's more morally ambiguous, allowing you to plug your dissatisfaction about how life and society is unjust because the protag didn't get his dick wet and bla bla.

Here is the message:

"I life is absolute shit. Don't go looking for love Because you will only find pain. And you must learn to accept the "friend zone".

It's a fact of life.

i hate how he sings Out there. all that vibrato is incredibly obnoxious.

also it's basically "Part of your World 2". it's derivative.

>Beauty and the Beast is about Stockholm Syndrome
When will this meme die?

the moral is beauty lies on the inside
the film wasn't shitting on ugly people, it was shitting on people (frollo, the townspeople) that mistreat/judge ugly people for no reason

'goodness' isn't measured by appearance or status, mostly, I mean that is the center of the protag and antagonist.

That, and sub shit like don't be cruel to others who aren't like you, probably also something about not forcing someone to something they don't want to do, personal freedoms, etc.

>what exactly was the moral of beauty and the beast anyway? stockholm syndrome?
Only on the most surface level as seen through the most pessimistic lens.

Beast turns himself into a better person, and at no point does Belle force him to do so, he does it because he recognizes that he needs to change. His present character, a short-tempered, insensitive brute, has literally gotten him turned into a monster and made him a miserable shut-in.

By changing his habits, thinking of others, doing nice things for them, and generally becoming a kinder person, he changes from a beast into someone worth loving.

And that was HIS choice. Belle didn't make him change, she was only the impetus and a guiding influence. It was like rehab.

The real message is, if you're not a shit person, people might actually want to be around you, him becoming a handsome guy at the end is symbolic of that.

This, I mean it's not like he was really holding her hostage past a certain point anyway, she runs away because of his actions and only reconsiders when he risks his life to save her.

From that point on Belle still scolds him for any bad behaviour, and even after falling in love with him, she leaves without question when she finds out about her fathers situation.

The word lost all his meaning

>the good looking alpha "treated her like a person"
>the ugly beta "realized they are not meant to be together"
Literally worse than hitler.

The word is still an insult, so it still has that meaning, you fucking cuck.

Out There is top tier in the stage adaptation

The moral of the story is to never take pity on gypsies.

The middle-age equivalent of a NEET was a corpse. He worked hard at his job and was damn frickan good at it.

>soldiers in the middle ages were crucial to defending the kingdom.
Except this is objectively false though. Most wars in the middle ages were fought by peasant militiamen/conscripts.

it wasn't really the Middle Ages, chums. Bit more like the early Renaissance

Shut up, you emo hipster

>they'll grudgingly Not-Hate you?

You mean at the end where he becomes the town's hero

You are wrong.
But first we must define "middle ages" because that spans the time between the 11th and 16-17th century

its true isn't it?

You know goat pussy is surprisingly like human pussy.

The goat is a boy.

It was literally English law for all able bodied man to practice archery weekly. That wouldn't have been the case if only professional soldiers were ever expected to fight.

i guess is not lock yourself in your house and hide form the world due to fear, sure the outside world is scary and dangerous,people are scary and dangerous, but there are nice things out there, and nice people too, if you leave your house and try to socialize you may even get some friends
honestly disney quiasimodo is a renaissance user, he would visit /r9k/ or even wizardchan

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Gaston wasn't a shit person.
Belle was still a cunt to him.

He had rock solid bros even before he left his tower.

the gargoyles were not real people, i think they worked perfectly as a metaphor for imaginary freinds or internet friends

Gaston was unequivocally a shit person.

They were real in his heart.

dont judge people based on their outer appearance

they might appear monstrous but have a kind heart
or
they might appear holy but have a devilish soul

Jegan in the book literally chooses the goat (female) over Esmeralda, leaving her in the hands of deranged Frollo, and to probable hanging.
He chose right

*Jehan

of they sure were, and you guys are real and great in my heart, you help me endure some real bad lonely times, but the fact that i don`t really know any of you (i dont even know your names) and that right now im sitting alone in my room is what is real, a man needs real friends user, needs to socialize

Just like your waifu, I'm sure

He did. Book Esmeralda was a cunt.

you mean Gringoire? Jehan was someone else

Hi user, my name is user. I have opinions on things, and like hearing yours as well.

Alright be honest. Would you date and fuck quasimodo if you were a woman?

Yeah, mixed those two up. Honestly he was by far the most likable character in the book, much better than Phoebus who is a Gaston style cunt
I have a soft spot for book Frollo. He's an incredibly complex and original character, and in terms of plot attention probably the closest thing the novel has to a main character. Shame there hasn't really been an adaption that does it justice

the stage adaptation of the Disney movie is pretty good

>Frollo.
wait - he's more than a creepy old fuck?

If goat pussy is like human pussy
Does that mean goat boi pussy is like boi pussy?

There is only one way to find out.

any good Frollo/Esmeralda porn?

He was just, Godly, and merciful.
More important than all this however, he put the safety and security of Paris ahead of his own carnal desires.

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giving her da froyo

i can tell you one thing, they're not doing gregorian chants

wow, Frollo looks damn good for a man in his, what, 60s?

SNIFFS

i wonder what his penis smells like

damn frollo is ripped! also now i have to go to aco and jack off

>you will never cum holy seed on her sweaty bodyhot gypsy pubes

KILL THE BEAST!

The immaculate conception

>tfw no eromenos

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Why would he be circumcised?

Jewish tricks