Why was the original Samurai Jack so good compared to the latest season...

Why was the original Samurai Jack so good compared to the latest season? First four seasons had so much nice touches and great moments where you could feel Jack's struggle in most desperate times. Season 5 seemed like a fan fiction of a man who studied the original but failed to reproduce the best of the series.

Because the original was made in the early 2000s, while the new season was made in the late 2010s.

It's episodic vs overarching plot. That, and the pacing was really fucked being only 10 or 12 episodes. People were upset that so much time was devoted to Ashi when she was so quickly written off, and that everything that happened in the series was completely erased.

It will be painful to hear it for modern Sup Forums, but focusing on the overarching plot is the answer. SJ worked a whole lot better when it's mostly unconnected stories loosely tied by "must stop Aku"

Both of you are the problem.

Mind elaborating on that point, or are you just going to be an asshole?

>muh overarching plots are inherently good
Found the cancer.

You're letting Genndy and co. of the hook with MUH OVERARCHING PLOT instead of realizing that the original had zero problems delivering a story when it needed to (cf. the multipart eps).

Because Genndy thought with his dick after he finished the first three episodes and gave us "Leafgirl Ashi ft. Samurai Jack".

>"ASHI, I LOVE YOU!"
>"LOL I have Aku's powers now and mastered them for no explainable reason, bye."

>overarching plots are inherently bad
Kill yourself

Because your nostalgic about the original run and that hinders your ability to enjoy anything thats new for the series. Next question.

>the pacing was really fucked being only 10 or 12 episodes.
It's perfectly possible to pace a show fine with as many episodes as they had. But the plot in itself was a problem when it was pulling in a million different directions at once.


Also the original wasn't even that good.

You know how many plot-contrivances it took to keep Jack from killing Aku in six seconds? Not just the initial time-warp, but every time they fought, Jack tore Aku a new one until outside interference stopped the fight.

The show was never meant to end. It was always going to be Jack just wandering endlessly, occasionally fighting Aku to the death and/or finding a way to get back to his time but always getting denied his victory at the last second. Take away all those contrivances and you get how this show ended: an anti-climatic whimper.

Too much talking.

>Also the original wasn't even that good.

Seeing the original after the last season ruins it a bit desu. Watching robots get diced up just isn't as satisfying

>t. ASfag
Back to your containment block.

No thanks for helping ruin season 5, by the way.

This. Its so bizarre that there are whole episodes with jack not saying a single word

For me SE5 fell apart because of bad character deconstruction and Ashi.
Jack losing his sword and feeling guilty about not having succeeded seems like a cool twist. But all of that is rendered useless since apparently the answer to Jack's problems was "lol let go of your anger. Your waifu Ashi loves you." The whole letting go of your anger deal is simplistic and was already done in episode XCVIII.
Then there's Ashi. She's a trash waifu who ultimately robs Jack of agency during the final battle with Aku.

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this. If she had gone her own way at the end of ep 4 then the show would've been all the better for it.

False. Watched Samurai Jack for the first time when the new season came out. Next.

I thought it was good, but the ending kinda ruined it.

I would have much prefer'd it if they had done it as a split timeline thing. Ashi retains her Aku form and powers, and they have an emotional parting as she remains in the future timeline and Jack goes back to defeat Aku and create a new peaceful timeline. That way all the good Jack did still mattered, and more importantly all the buildup with Ashi was genuinely important because her conversion to good leaves the future earth with an extremely powerful mystical guardian.

thats actually p.good.
Jack gets to keep his promise and go back to his parents and Ashi stays in the future and becomes Queen after the fall of aku or replaces jack, fighting the rest of injustices in the world, cause the world wouldnt be hunky dory overnight just cause Aku is ded.
Also, we'd have two Aku battles which would rock if done correctly

Seriously, this was cool and kinda sexy and I think it would have pleased most everyone if she had been stuck this way.

Or combine the two. Double Akus, or both past and future Aku fusing for some absolutely crazy bullshit. Jack and Aku-Ashi vs Ultra super mega Aku. Either way Ashi should have time portal powers to send herself/jack between timelines too, so they could even visit eachother.

I woulda been pretty satisfied if it ended that way.

Fucking shit, trips win again.

>Double Akus, or both past and future Aku fusing for some absolutely crazy bullshit. Jack and Aku-Ashi vs Ultra super mega Aku.
You had it... and you lost it. Absolutely retarded.

You're right, Ashi needs to fuse with double Aku to make triple Aku. And then that blob thing that created Aku needs to come down and fuse with them to make Ashiku the living planet.

>mega aku
my dick pierced the heavens
>visiting each other
Id still like a bittersweet ending. Not visiting each other but just being able to communicate for a sec every time the moons align or some shit, so it'd really feel like they are actually thousands of years apart

I also really don't understand why they had some weird fuckin tea ceremony asspull for Jack getting his sword back.

Wasn't the sword created from his dad's "righteousness" or something. Wouldn't it have made more sense for him to have to quest for an audience with the gods and have them make a new sword from his own goodness or whatever. They could even explain away that Jack's sword was better and could actually kill Aku rather than sealing him again.

Pretty much this i think, the odds where never really in Aku's favor.

I think Jack even managed to actually kill Aku in the future in one episode (I think it was the "jump good" episode), where the episode ends in one of those "painted" cinematic freeze-frames that shows jack slashing a confused/frightened aku (same style as the scrolling frame where Aku picks up the sword in S5).

The ending would always be anti-climactic by nature, short of adding in some new elaborate mechanic that Jack needs to overcome (which would in itself cause a lot of negative backlash for "adding some bullshit filler"). I guess Ashi was just an attempt at adding a bit more drama to the ending, or perhaps introducing a last concept (two broken people fixing eachother bla bla bla) before ending the show or some crap.

I'm married and Ashi a shit

We already went over this in one of the threads a year ago, I don't know how people can still be interested yet not enough to have figured it out by now, it takes all of a few seconds on wikipedia.
S1 to 4 had a different writers and likely more oversight due to being on CN.

>I think Jack even managed to actually kill Aku in the future in one episode
Just fuck off. Please.
You don't understand basic storytelling.

Because you were a child then so you amused easier

>no giant climactic big dick final battle between Jack and Aku after we had to wait literal years
The only thing Gennedy deserves is hate

Ashi's character is insulting and she's not even fappable since her mouth looks like a duck beak

Of all the complaints about season 5, this one is probably the most retarded. I'm guessing you agree with the greentext in too...

Yeah, can't someone else fight Aku?

why must you turn my thread into a house of lies?

>force in a new character and have half the focus of the season be on her
>have her be an OP army killer without taking a scratch
>have her be the only person from the future Jack cares about even though he only knew her for a couple of weeks at most
>have her be Aku’s daughter (I would have laughed in your face years ago if you told me this was going to happen, and said “SJ would never do something that tacky”)
>have her be the one that takes Jack to the past
That’s why it feels like a fan fiction.

They both were great, if you don't have autism.
I can't blame Sup Forums for not getting it.

>tripfag
Likewise, can’t blame you for being a faggot.