Wow. Really makes you think

Wow. Really makes you think.

>This is what leftists actually believe

So what this bitch is saying is even though the standard is the powerful being irresponsible they shouldn't strive to be responsible and its now everyone elses problem?

It's been awhile since I've read the comic, but I think the whole conversation is about how the kids of this generation have to live with the decisions of the adults. I remember it being really poorly worded though.

Gert is also kinda idealistic though.

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Funny, since the unwashed masses had to be given power to keep the powerful in check

We need Tony "Rev up the Gas Tank" Stark in these dark times. Marvel Purge when?

They should, but most likely never will anyway. Especially in settings like the Marvel universe where people like Notman Osborn are downright unrepentant.

And only to later place an idol of their own.

Human beings cannot into freedom.

I hope that black chick is using her telepathic powers to murder purple-haired bitch

Helicopter rides for everyone

>It's a writer tries to deconstruct with great power comes great responsibility episode

This comes up with some writers especially this era of Marvel where they try to make fun of or attempt to deconstruct the whole with great power thing. The problem is that it's a lesson about you know being thoughtful about how you use your powers and actions so it comes of...as someone saying you should not think about your actions or consequences? People with not a lot of power don't have responsibilities? Not one of BKV's finer moments.

Hmmmmmmmm I feel the author misinterpreted that phrase a little

Why do all pretentious chubby girls wear bitch glasses and dye their hair unnatural hues of color? Do they realize they are being a living stereotype? Though, I'm sure I fall into some stereotypes too

Maybe the previous panels helped but what I'm seeing here, I'm assuming she responded to Spidey's classic Great Responsibility quote.

I don't see how her first word balloon would follow. OK, not everyone has great power, that isn't a rejection of his quote saying that *if* you have great power comes matching responsibility. It comes across as argumentative for no other reason than to argue. A contrarian teen? quelle surprise.

The second bit is simply wrong. It sounds all touchy-feely good but still wrong. Even if you subscribe to the "it takes a village" mentality the responsibility distribution is not smooth. For example, if my neighbor gets drunk on friday and I see him staggering hung over to his car saturday morning, i would personally assume some responsibility if I didn't stop him from driving off and killing someone. But it would still be the lion's share on him if he killed someone. I maybe took on 5% or 2% or 1%, some debatable fraction, small but not zero, I should've stopped him.

In feminist terms... a girl is raped after walking by herself down a dark alley in a shady part of town. Who is responsible? They'd say the rapist is 100% responsible, I'd say she had some non-zero responsibility for putting herself into danger in the first place, its the supermajority fault of the rapist but she could have saved herself.

Now, in this analogy spidey is the attacker and Gert is the girl. Who has the Greatest Responsibility? Spidey. Something she just argued against, in her logic the girl shouldered the most fault for not "keeping the rapist in check".

Feminism is not logically self-consistent but nothing new there.

Also, was Gert really *that* fat in the comics? Jesus Christ.

>Leftist comic book from a leftist company portraying a leftist feminist as retarded

REALLY MAKES ME THINK HMMMMMM

Please go back to Sup Forums

I think what she’s trying to say is that the phrase implies that responsibility scales with power, and that she believes the responsibility is constant regardless of power.

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Now post when she died

What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
Retard

>bitch glasses
Sexy secretary, sexy librarian, or retro so "it's cool"
>dye their hair unnatural hues of color
Easiest thing to change about themselves and get attention at the same time without putting in any effort.

No! She's saying that white men are evil and that leftism is good. This ((comic)) is actually being ((pushed)) by (((them)) to make you ((think)). ((It)) ((is)) ((liberal)) ((cringe)) ((propaganda)). Praise kek!

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I suspect the root cause is that feminists simply use the term differently. Spidey uses responsibility as "obligation", "duty", "burden". Feminists use responsibility as "fault" and "blame". The two uses are similar but are not quite the same.

>Marvel civilians

So how did that work out for her?

Oh god! I can feel the reeee overtaking me!

I like to post this when people call Marvel civilians dumbasses.
I wish there was more humor like this with Marvel civies, instead of just foaming at the mouth angry mobs all the damn time

Man it would have been incredibly better if it was worded like that

>leftists believe in sarcastically mocking dumb youths
Weird but ok, kid.

SJWs always double down. If someone thinks they're unattractive, they don't even consider self improvement, they decide to go even further down the ugly hole.
The question is whether this is intentional or subconscious.

Gert isn't really a civilian. She has a psychic link with a dinosaur and is part of a superhero team.

They really are just like 1960's boomers and we all know how that went.

>Some girl you just met shits on your dearly departed Uncle's words of wisdom, by which you have tried to live by half your life
>Your response is to praise her and say that her nonsensical logic that totally misses the point of the phrase is enough to warrant her a position on the Avengers
Not one of BKV's finest moments

And they said Runaways was worth a read.
Never trust a normies opinion on comics.

You are confusing responsibility with blame, she is not saying people without power should be held accountable for the actions of those with power, but that those without power take upon themselves the task of make sure that those with power use it correctly.

I think spidey was being sarcastic

Anons always think that, and then it turns out the author was sincere all along.

Remember in Universe X when Parker grows older, and says he had the maxim backwards. He said that the feeling of responsibility brings power, not the other way around.

Their concept of self-identity is incredibly shallow. Rather than address any internal insecurities (self-doubt, body image issues, low self-esteem, social anxiety. etc.) they put all stock into skin deep cosmetic changes, group identity, and -worst of all - projecting their self-hatred outwards as the fault of greater society.

You can be unattractive, not care about it, and be content.

You can be fat and still be (emotionally) healthy.

But the vast majority of people with these issues aren't. They craft a narrative like they are, but they're fooling themselves. You are not internally self-sufficient if you need safe spaces and controlled speech.

>So what this bitch is saying is even though the standard is the powerful being irresponsible they shouldn't strive to be responsible
No, it's not what she is saying.

she simply state that she don't think most people hold true to this.

It does.

How could someone act this pedantic while being wrong?

How can someone miss the point so badly?

>they have power but are not responsible

See? That's the point. They should be to be good people. Spider-man's motto translates to "don't be an asshole if you can" and this chick is not following it on purpose. Why?

Makes you think indeed.

So basically like /r9k/ then

>but I think the whole conversation is about how the kids of this generation have to live with the decisions of the adults
Nigger. That is every generation that has ever graced the earth.

No shit. The point of Uncle Ben's (though he never actually said it, the narrator did) lesson was people should aspire to do the right thing if they have the power to do so.

Gert was very much an idealist socialist. The comic doesn't portray her as being right or wrong, she gets shit on for her opinions or agreed with based on the other character's opinions. People that treat everything a character says as something that should be moral IRL are kinda retarded.

>Also, was Gert really *that* fat in the comics?

You're acting like the proof isn't in front of you. I don't get people that get whiny about that kind of thing. It's rare for characters to not look like they came out of molds in comics and it's rather boring as fuck as a comic artist to have to draw the same woman shape and man shape.

People come in different shapes and sizes and Gert is a 5'2 fat teenaged girl.

Literally pointed out to the character in this arc anons.

>I can't read this because I disagree with a character
Literally retarded.

ITT: Sup Forums proves that it once again doesn't read comics

Vic a la Mancha bringin the heat.

LITERALLY. That's what happened when I delete a chunk of my post.

At any rate Gert is being played off Victor here who was programed by Ultron to really fucking love heroes so he can infiltrated and kill the Avengers in the future. So she's being used to temper his unending boner for superheroing.

Not really. Gert is one of those people who cannot help but spew out a completely predictable know-it-all opinion at every opportunity. There's no "off" switch, no trace of common-sense, and no idea on her part that maybe she doesn't know absolutely everything about everything. Any utility an opinion of her's might have is lost because everyone who knows her tends to filter out whatever she says.

You guys say that, but it's not mocking them. Have you read nu marvel? It's full of unironic shit like this.

Maybe you're all wrong and it's just a fucking character my dude.

you are meant to agree with her

What do you expect? The Runaways don't trust ANY adults, having never grown past their "all adults are evil boogeymen" mentality.

How does it feel to prove every single person in this thread wrong for taking the panel out of context?

>it's another crossposter takes page out of context to make some "reee liberals suck" circlejerk shit thread
Super hero movies were probably the worst fucking thing to happen to this board.

Why did he have to drop the chopsticks?

Kinda feels bad man. Knowing Sup Forums turns on comics it liked so easily because of the SJW boogeyman.

Blanket making all characters like Gert would suck, but she is a type of person that exists so she has a right to exist as a character.

Im just sick and tired of marvel shoving SJW shit in my books

This book is 15 years old man. It predates the current political climate.

I fucking hope I'm wrong, dear god she's absolutely obnoxious.
There's been more than enough times they paint this as positive.

Like the insufferable Songbird and her literal "femenist agenda".

>reading runaways

>we keep them in check

This from the same kind of people who thought they could overthrow the government with a march

I know I'm late to the ball game but everyone who does this fucks the quote up. Raimi did it too, so that's what I blame most of this on.

>With great power comes great responisbility
Means that power and responsibility come hand in hand intrinsically.

This is also not the proper quote.

>With great power there must also come -- great responsibility!

Power is not intrinsict to responsible use of that power and a person must learn to use that power responsibly or suffer the consequences.

You know, the moral of AF #15. Nothing gets me as assblasted as Marvel editors not doing their job and correcting what is literally the most iconic piece of dialogue their company has. And it's not like a pedantic mistake that I'm wanting corrected. The incorrect/Raimi version means the exact opposite of the real quote!

only there are no fat heros. to be a hero you have to be fit, otherwise you would not be able to do your job. there is a why to firefighters or military not taking women, and special forces or anti forest fire teams have an even strickter check ups.

also socialists are never right. the whole base of the political idea is wrong and anti human. saying socialism may be right, is like saying that canibalism could be an good option.

Considering The Avengers' standards nowadays, it's totally possible for she being an avenger in the future.

Is she still dead?

Mockingbird, hon.

I don't understand being so mad at something yet not knowing what you're talking about. It seems like a quick stressful trip to the grave.

she doesn't know that sofists were called the eternal fools by their opponents. Her parents were really punished.

It's significantly worse for the newer generations though. They have to live in a society that is efficient in fucking them over, with very few opportunities for them even with degrees, on a planet overrun with pollution and is more or less on borrowed time. Baby Boomers outright fucked over every future generation.

powerful

>there is a why to firefighters or military not taking women
But there are plenty of women in fire departments and the military

>only there are no fat heros

You REALLY don't read comics, do you?

I get the feeling you're the same person that pops up in all these threads. Same syntax. Same bad grammar. Same insistence on hating the comic.

Persistent troll or did the comic kick your puppy?

>wanting me to remember the name of a shitty co-opted character
fuck off.
>being mad at something and not knowing what you're talking about
Again, fuck off, I used to be a regular customer of marvel comics, shit started to slide way the fuck downhil mid 2000 and has been on a meteroic fall since then. Your'e damn right I'm gonna be mad about a bunch of chucklefuck numales and diversity hires fucking up my hobby. Comics used to sell a ton, now they don't and it's because of this shitty propaganda infesting almost every page.

And they are all fucking worthless.
t. Vet and current firefighter.

not in my country.

I do, but I wouldn't call those that are fat heros. Closest thing they can be is support and most of the time they are a burden.

well I have been hanging around here since the last Russian raid, so yeah it is me .

And I do not hate the comics, I actually liked parts of runways. I just hate socialism and people that follow it.

No you're not. Peter's being sarcastic, you would know if you actually read the page. Oh wait, you wouldn't, you're too dumb to detect sarcasm.

>started to slide way the fuck downhil mid 2000

And you're mad at a comic that is older than that.

At least get educated on things before you start mouthing off. It makes you better at forming arguments.

Sorry you live in a 3rd world country, then.
Do they also cut girls' clits off when they're born where you live?

So this.... is the power.... of tumblr....

bro.

>Most people in life don't have great power, and the few that do are almost never responsible

aye lass I think that's the point of the mantra, it's moral guidance

>but I wouldn't call those that are fat heros.

So not only are you an idiot, but you're also a goalpost moving idiot.

Bruh that comic is from 2014. Are you just totally fucking retarded?
Drop out of your worthless social studies degree before telling anyone to get educated.

No, I don't really see the sense in doing that. What should it achive? I understand male circumcision as it lowers the cancer rate among women, but a clitdectomy doesn't seem to have a real goal.

alot fo them were forced in via diversity hires, I.E. some faggot femenist complained that there wasn't enough females in that job occupation and had to pay a fucking fine and admit unqualified chumps.

You really ought to read up on femals soldiers and why they fucking suck most of the time. One being their female maintenance needs are extremely high, and in places like Afghanistan on long patrols with squalid conditions it can quickly degenerate the health of a woman, in fact there's a book written by a former female soldier warning women not to do it because being a soldier on tour ruined her reproductive abilities.

If you wanna go even further the women who "passed" the ranger exam. There's only been one who actually did it legitimately to my knowledge, she was a puertorican woman.

In NY there was a lawsuit against the NY firedepartment for not letting in people of color and women to t he fire department, even though they did not pass the physical exams.

No you aren't. Read the damn book before trying to spread incorrect interpretations of it around.

you do know that an idiot is a medical term, and one of its trait is the inability to read and write. So even if we assumed I am not writing right now, I somehow am able, probably through jewish magic, to read your post.
And I work at a bakery, if you have to know.

>Sorry you live in a 3rd world country, then.

Sorry you're going to get burned alive all to to make some bimbo feel good about being included

>nu marvel
>2005

I'll mouth off to you any time I want chump, you're a fucking nobody and your degree in womens studies is worthless.

You can try to take the highground all you like, you're nothing but a worhtless nu-male soy boi faggot, doubly so if you look up to people like this as heroes. You're the kinda guy who thinks that shit like that is deep and thought invoking.

and as for your bullshit argument that this shit had been around longer than that, no shit it has, lefty bullshit was in marvel for a long time, but there were other counter ideals to it, or ultimately it took a back seat to the actual narrative. NOw all it is is spewing political ideologies and agendas. Kinda like how you spew semen out of your mouth any time you talk.

Here's a tip, go to your local grocery store, buy some of those tide pods all the kids are going crazy about, and then swallow a handful of them.

do you guys also have separate women/man bath houses at bases? Because we had 20-30 chicks sharing a bath house and the same amount of water, as 300 dudes. And the chicks were rotate out every 2-3 weeks while we had to sit in the hell hole for 4 months.

user the comic started in 2003 and that issue is from 2006.

Settle down Diversity and comics.

>In NY there was a lawsuit against the NY firedepartment for not letting in people of color and women to t he fire department, even though they did not pass the physical exams.
Source? Please tell me it was dismissed.

This. Diversity and comics was a fucking mistake. Brought a bunch of phaggots that dont read comics and just want to be mad about an out of context 2005 page

Don't take the name of The Saint in your unclean soi mouth boi.

Leave it to a fat, purple-haired piece of shit to think that xe has to "keep everyone else in check".