Which is more important, ability to draw or ability to write?

Which is more important, ability to draw or ability to write?

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Important to what?

Ideally if you possess only one of those skills you find someone else to do the other half.

what a fucking stupid question

learn to communicate, you breathless fop

The latter can compensate for the lack of the former.
Not sure if vice versa.

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Lots of ugly looking shows survived and thrived by writing alone.

It's important to be honest about your abilities and plan accordingly.

Like what, name some

This. A good story with mediocre art is way better than the inverse. The worst crime you could commit in entertainment is to write a bland story.

In terms of webcomics like Ava's Demon it can actually be vice versa.

Any retard can write, it takes a real talent to draw.

I know this is a bit of a cheat, but The Simpsons was not exactly what I would call the most aesthetically pleasing or well-animated show even in its earlier seasons.

It takes some talent to write something that's actually worth a damn, wouldn't you think? Ease of use is not necessarily the same thing as mastery.

Ed Edd n Eddy, Rick & Morty, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Adventure Time, Cow & Chicken, Ren & Stimpy...

Aqua Teen Hunger Force (lots of stuff in [adult swim] really)
Bob's Burgers
American Dad!

>Ed Edd n Eddy
>Cow & Chicken
>Ren & Stimpy
Those aren't badly animated though.They just have artistic styles that focuses more on exaggerated features and the grotesque.

Bad animation is something like Family Guy where everyone is as stiff as a board and have a total of four arm movements and facial expressions.

12 Oz. Mouse

Yeah, that's a far better example.

Fantastic art will never save terrible writing, especially if the paneling is trash.
Good writing doesn't need art, there is a reason why books exist.
But to have good comic book, you need both, no question about it, but if you had to sacrifice one to certain degree, it's better to sacrifice art.

Easily writing, decent artists are a dime a dozen, good writers are rare.

It's the opposite actually, with enough practice anyone can become a decent artist, but writing a good story can't be taught.

Home Movies
Aqua Teen
Early South Park
Beavis and Butthead
Daria
Bojack Horseman
Space Ghost: Coast to Coast
And then there's stuff like Powerpuff Girls, Dexter's Lab, and UPA Shorts which had very limited animation but used it extremely well and had stories good enough that you didn't mind the characters weren't animated like Rugrats.

The show with both shit writing and shit art style.

>mr autist
8/10 would get b8ed again

I need to know what mr enter considers a perfect 100/100

What kind of bait do you recommend for trapping artists?

usually money works

Ability to execute

Writing if it has to do with producing a show, cartoon, movie, anything really that has to involved a character(s) speaking in anyway.

A drawing can be well drawn by itself and be enjoyed, that's fine. But, a show can be the most photo realistically drawn; wimsy, et cetera. But, if it's writing is bad it not be worth watching. If the writing is on point you can just draw stick doodles and it'd be fine. I mean fuck, the order of the stick is basically the prime example there. It's just it's style.

Now that you mention it. Family guy really is the the B^U of cartoons.

Writing takes effort, especially if you're trying to create imagery or invoke emotion among other things. Not to mention there's a lot to consider including dictation and fundamentals of writing plot. And those are just the basics.

>Not to mention there's a lot to consider including dictation and fundamentals of writing plot. And those are just the basics.
I would think if you're writing a short story those fundamentals mostly wouldn't apply, right?

They would apply. Short story or novel, the basics are essential, although they would be more condensed, especially when you're in different points of view.

>They would apply. Short story or novel, the basics are essential, although they would be more condensed, especially when you're in different points of view.
Fundamentals such as?

For one, pacing. If it's going to be a short story, it's essential to determine how long something in the plot is going to go on.
Another is the point of view. Points of views such first-person, third-person subjective, third-person objective, third-person omniscient, and third-person limited can work in short depending on if you wanna tell through the eyes of the characters or the narrator.
Dictation, or word choice and have the significant impact on the short story and aid a lot in the point of view you choose.
There is also deciding to be between the present and past tense.

this, any comic written by gabby La Bruja would be shit, no matter who made the drawing

As a writer, I think drawing takes more skill
Of course, there's probably an artist going "Man drawing is easy, writing is hard!"

So I guess it's just relative anyway

>Not sure if vice versa.

It can, if only as scenery porn.

Oh, I never said, that drawing isn't without its learning curves. I'm just saying that writing has its fair share of work to be into.

As I said on the release day of issue 1 of America: No amount of thicc in this fucking comic is going to save it.

Oh absolutely.
I'm saying that people who have skill in one will think the other is hard (and because it's harder ergo it must take more skill) because they've attempted it and it didn't come as naturally as the other did to them.

The ability to draw as long as you keep it pornographic.
99% of the populous can’t appreciate “actual” good writing.

Good writing all day every day. Only thing good writing can't save is a game with shitty controls, outside of that, good writing can save anything.

Write, definitely. Take One Punch Man as an example, and to a lesser extent Mob Psycho 100.
ONE started off with really shitty art, but he managed to write a story that got many people to look past the artwork and be engaged in his writing. It still took the webcomic to be translated into a manga with a different artist and then an anime for the show to become a world phenomena, but the point still stands. A good story is, in the long run, much more important than good art.

Good art without good writing can be enjoyable too, but more akin to entering an art gallery where you look at beautiful drawings that don't really connect to each other.

this dayzoo
I can enjoy something with engaging writing so long as it's not offensively ugly. Meanwhile good art with bland writing both fails to hold my attention and frustrates me with how much I might have enjoyed that art if there was any substance behind it.
It's not just about words, either. Scene composition in art is non-verbal writing. There're plenty of textless illustrated stories. Without that writing/storytelling, technical skill feels wasted.

A writer can write several comics in a month. Most artists can only draw one. They get paid about the same per page.

Good writing! Always!

You're an idiot for not specifying what you mean.
so:
You are supposed to read comics not look them.
The strength of art is in storytelling, not pimped up characters.

>Any retard can write
>Case in point

>Easily writing, decent artists are a dime a dozen, good writers are rare.
This is absolutely true.
>It's the opposite actually, with enough practice anyone can become a decent artist, but writing a good story can't be taught.
Probably right, but writing requires practice and learning too.

>Just over 2.3 million copies, total, of the Top 750 are by these ten authors, or a bit under 23% of the total sales. Just a few people are writing a lot of the comics sold!

>This gives us 34 authors, who sell a combined $101.1m worth of books. That is just under one-third of all comics dollars being spent on BookScan (all 21k+ entries!) from the pens of just a small number of people.
(34 authors who sold over $1m worth of comics in 2016)

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ability to write will get you farther

Depends on what your goal is. Why do you ask questions too vague to have an answer?

It took people millions of years to create writing.

But they've been drawing before Mammoths died.

Writing, of course

Hurrrr
Fucking shut up

writing is more important because after 12 years your art will improve enough that you will now have good drawning and writing ability.
See: Gunnerkrigg Court.

then explain how this has survived 15 years

>The ability to draw as long as you keep it pornographic.
>99% of the populous can’t appreciate “actual” good writing.
/thread (though it's populace)

Good artwork attracts an audience. Good writing retains one.

I think it really depends on what you're looking at. To get into the business, I think drawing is the bigger entry point, but if we're talking quality, good writing and plotting can save a comic.

A picture is worth a thousand words

>learn to communicate, you breathless fop
How was the OP poorly communicated? I understood it perfectly.

This. I'm a decent writer, but I feel useless without art. I'm a visually oriented person, and I'm only interested in writing comics and visual novels. I can't draw for shit, though, so I'm not working on anything at the moment. I really need to practice drawing more.

How many examples do you have
>Not enough

It's the writer who decides what's in the picture, no?
You don't just draw anything.
And comic book writing is about using as few words as you can get away with, and using art to that end.

It's too vague to have any meaning.

A person that can draw can also write. A person that can only write can't draw.

If you have standards of a bad fanfiction writing sure. Good writing is much more rare than good art, the problem with good art is that it takes time so it's hard to do consistently well.

>Which is more important, the ability to draw or write?
>Asked on a comic book discussion board
No, it's pretty straightforward.

>If you have standards of a bad fanfiction writing sure
How bad are we talking about?

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Writing mate

As time pass you can your relative charming artstyle to get better or get lucky and get a high profile artist pick up your story to draw it or iunno, can guarantee alot of folk here me included just want an actual good story with some D E E P E S T L O R E here and there to make some autistic threads about your future shit

Mumen Rider is literally too pure and heroic for that world

The ability to convey.

You don't need the best script in the world or a masterful grasp on the arts. You need to understand the backbone of the art form and how to effectively relate ideas. Composition, pacing, focus, these things are the most important.